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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2013, 10:49:47 AM »
Don't get ahead of yourself. If you're genuinely outraged by this, then I agree with Wes.

If you note the symbolism and shake your head at the irony, that's perfectly warranted, IMO.

Outrage is probably the wrong term. But there has to be accountability. And unfortunately only the crazies get any attention these days.

It's like the westboro baptist people. They get a ton of press when they show up. But the hundreds of folks lining the road only get a small amount.

I feel like conservatives are the ones that are quietly lining the roads.
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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2013, 10:55:09 AM »
Let Mit Romney do it, and see what you think. Especially in an alternate universe where he won the presidency and was in the midst of a week where his misuse of government agencies for his personal benefit were hitting the media.

I'm just sayin', it's pretty symbolic.

Here's where I come down on this:

My boss sometimes asks me to do shit that I'm way overqualified for and that could be better delegated to someone else.

I have to do that shit anyway, because he's the boss.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2013, 11:02:08 AM »
Here's where I come down on this:

My boss sometimes asks me to do shit that I'm way overqualified for and that could be better delegated to someone else.

I have to do that shit anyway, because he's the boss.

Yea but then you make Woodhouse eat spider webs to make you feel better.
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2013, 11:04:31 AM »
Here's where I come down on this:

My boss sometimes asks me to do shit that I'm way overqualified for and that could be better delegated to someone else.

I have to do that shit anyway, because he's the boss.

That does not mean your boss is not an asshole.

Hence, no one here is upset with the Marine, just his ASSHOLE boss!
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2013, 11:08:08 AM »
That does not mean your boss is not an asshole.

Hence, no one here is upset with the Marine, just his ASSHOLE boss!

OK. Rage on.

Yea but then you make Woodhouse eat spider webs to make you feel better.

You should have seen the look on his face when I made him eat bird seed for breakfast.  He was so happy to get breakfast.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2013, 11:11:15 AM »
Racists.



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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2013, 11:15:12 AM »
Racists.





None of the other three were marines?
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2013, 11:21:36 AM »
None of the other three were marines?

So if he had called an Army Ranger over as opposed to a Marine, no one would have minded.

Glad that's cleared up.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2013, 11:27:52 AM »
I have a feeling I'll get a resounding NO from the Vets and those in the military.  But....is it somehow possible that this Marine took it upon himself to do this?  Or is a good gesture towards his Commander in Chief totally off limits?  Really asking.  Do we know Obama told him to grab that umbrella and hold it over him?
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2013, 11:37:02 AM »
I have a feeling I'll get a resounding NO from the Vets and those in the military.  But....is it somehow possible that this Marine took it upon himself to do this?  Or is a good gesture towards his Commander in Chief totally off limits?  Really asking.  Do we know Obama told him to grab that umbrella and hold it over him?

Yeah, he specifically asked for it:

Quote from: President Obama
"Why don't we get a couple of Marines — they're gonna look good next to us. Just 'cuz I — I've got a change of suits, but I don't know about our prime minister. There we go. (Gestures to press, which did not get Umbrella Marines.) You guys I'm sorry about."


I don't think a Marine would be allowed to move about during a President's speech (or any other time when he is told to remain in place at attention or at ease) without orders allowing him to do so.  Because Marines can't use umbrellas, he would have to go somewhere else to get one.  Even if he just grabbed one from a couple of feet away from secret service or someone else, I'm relatively sure it would be a breach of protocol to do so without orders.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 11:38:49 AM »
I have a feeling I'll get a resounding NO from the Vets and those in the military.  But....is it somehow possible that this Marine took it upon himself to do this?  Or is a good gesture towards his Commander in Chief totally off limits?  Really asking.  Do we know Obama told him to grab that umbrella and hold it over him?

He would not have moved from his position to hold the umbrella unless told to do so. I disagree with all three photos of Active members holding an umbrella, I understand they are Commander in Chief and for that they get my repsect but as a human they are no better than me.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 11:48:14 AM »
And maybe I'm picking nits, but to me it is 100% about the context of the timing.

If this happened 2 weeks ago, I'd agree that any criticism of it would be way overblown.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2013, 11:53:33 AM »
He would not have moved from his position to hold the umbrella unless told to do so. I disagree with all three photos of Active members holding an umbrella, I understand they are Commander in Chief and for that they get my repsect but as a human they are no better than me.

Part of me understands that someone needs to hold an umbrella (Degrading as it may be) if the President is giving a speech in the pouring rain.  If the President is walking along, as is the case with Reagan, then hold your own damn umbrella.  I do think he needs to have a flunky hold it and not a service member, regardless of branch. 
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2013, 11:59:53 AM »
So if he had called an Army Ranger over as opposed to a Marine, no one would have minded.

Glad that's cleared up.

Well yeah.  Everyone knows the Marines are prettier and have the best dress uniform. So they stand out more.

This Marine will have his image etched in history. I wonder if he'll look back one day and talk about his time with the messiah!
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5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2013, 12:07:09 PM »
Well yeah.  Everyone knows the Marines are prettier and have the best dress uniform. So they stand out more.

This Marine will have his image etched in history. I wonder if he'll look back one day and talk about his time with the messiah!

I am sure the "one" will have one built to show his toughness and duty to country. Right next to this one.

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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2013, 02:17:40 PM »
Racists.




The guy on the bottom right is half black? I get it and as red state as I am, a marine holding an umbrella for the prez doesn't bother me much. The IRS scandal, AP scandal, Bengazi, radical socialist idealism and entitlement attitudes all do.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2013, 02:21:45 PM »
The guy on the bottom right is half black? I get it and as red state as I am, a marine holding an umbrella for the prez doesn't bother me much. The IRS scandal, AP scandal, Bengazi, radical socialist idealism and entitlement attitudes all do.

Holy shit.  A reasonable response to "Umbrella Gate", aka "The Rhianna Conspiracy."
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2013, 02:24:46 PM »
Holy shoot.  A reasonable response to "Umbrella Gate", aka "The Rhianna Conspiracy."
Well, before you get ahead of yourself, we just don't have enough evidence yet to completely affirm that Ubrella Gate is a part of the grand conspiracy. That's all I'm saying. So, at the moment he gets a pass on it.
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2013, 03:28:39 PM »
And maybe I'm picking nits, but to me it is 100% about the context of the timing.

If this happened 2 weeks ago, I'd agree that any criticism of it would be way overblown.

I didn't post this for criticism.  I posted it for humor. 

But as usual, Obama supporters cannot allow any kind of satire or sarcasm to be directed at the president.  It was a big comedic fete when Bush was in office, but a mere picture of Obama being shielded by acid rain means we're just jealous Republicans who are raging against all things Blue. 
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Re: Question for Marines
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2013, 03:38:27 PM »
I didn't post this for criticism.  I posted it for humor. 

But as usual, Obama supporters cannot allow any kind of satire or sarcasm to be directed at the president.  It was a big comedic fete when Bush was in office, but a mere picture of Obama being shielded by acid rain means we're just jealous Republicans who are raging against all things Blue.
Nope. Too late. You're a racist and now everyone knows it. And what was so funny about Bush's feet?
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