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Biggest Bust
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:52:34 AM »
I get the poll but I have to question several of these being on the list.  The poll is about who is the biggest NFL bust, not who did great in college but didn't make it on Sundays.  Rocker is a prime example.  Unreal in college but drafted in the 3rd round already means the pro scouts don't think that much of your chances of that success translating to the NFL game.  Nick Fairley and Mark Ingram have both just started their careers. For me, it's Jamarcus Russell.  Discuss....add to the list....oh, and you know where it was copypasta'd from.



Assuming Rolando McClain is really done, his retirement today at the age of 23 pushes McClain into the conversation of biggest NFL busts. Those who knew McClain when he grew up in Decatur worried this day could happen.

McClain isn't alone as an NFL bust connected to the state of Alabama. For whatever reason, these local players didn't (or so far haven't) lived up to expectations once they reached the NFL. Vote below for your biggest Alabama-connected NFL bust. Are we missing any candidates? Let us know.

JaMarcus Russell, Mobile: The No. 1 draft pick in 2007 was released after three seasons with the Raiders. He threw 18 touchdowns and 23 interceptions and was later arrested on drug charges.

Rolando McClain, Decatur/Alabama: The No. 8 pick in 2010 kept getting arrested and was suspended for clashing with his coach. The Raiders released him, the Ravens signed him, and now he is apparently retired.

Keith McCants, Mobile/Alabama: The No. 4 pick in the 1990 draft entered the NFL with a bad knee and lasted six seasons with minimal impact. Through the years, he has had multiple drug-related arrests and has been broke.

Aundray Bruce, Montgomery/Auburn: The No. 1 pick in 1988 started only 42 games and had 32 sacks as a linebacker with the Falcons and Raiders over 11 years. That's not horrific production, but it's not No. 1 pick production, either.

Brent Fullwood, Auburn: The No. 4 pick in 1987 lasted only four years in the NFL. Fullwood averaged 37 rushing yards a game and 3.9 yards per carry with the Packers.

Nick Fairley, Mobile/Auburn: The jury is still out on the No. 13 pick of 2011. Fairley has had off-the-field problems. He did have 5.5 sacks in 13 games last season with the Lions.

Tracy Rocker, Auburn: The Lombardi and Outland Trophy winner in college, Rocker was a third-round pick in 1989 so he doesn't rise to other bust levels. But despite making the NFL-All Rookie team, his NFL career lasted only two seasons.

Mark Ingram, Alabama: The jury is also still out on the 2011 No. 28 pick and Heisman Trophy winner. Ingram has fought injuries while rushing for 1,076 yards and 3.9 yards per carry in two years with the Saints.

Pat White, Daphne: A second-round pick in 2009 as a Wildcat quarterback, White was released by the Dolphins by 2010. He suffered from concussions, tried baseball again, spent time in the United Football League and was recently signed by the Redskins.

Pat Sullivan, Birmingham/Auburn: Sullivan won the Heisman Trophy in college and was a second-round pick in 1972. But he played only four NFL seasons as a Falcons backup, throwing five touchdowns and 16 interceptions with a career QB rating of 36.5.

Chad Jackson, Hoover: The Patriots traded up to get Jackson early in the second round of the 2006 draft. He played two injury-plagued seasons before he was released and didn't catch on with two other teams.

Lawyer Tillman, Mobile/Auburn: The Browns traded a first-round pick to take Tillman with the first pick of the second round in 1989. His career was quickly ended by injuries. He only played 10 games in three years before a brief comeback try with the Panthers.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 10:08:31 AM »


She could at least place in the top 5...oh wait!
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 10:20:17 AM »
I get the poll but I have to question several of these being on the list.  The poll is about who is the biggest NFL bust, not who did great in college but didn't make it on Sundays.  Rocker is a prime example.  Unreal in college but drafted in the 3rd round already means the pro scouts don't think that much of your chances of that success translating to the NFL game.  Nick Fairley and Mark Ingram have both just started their careers. For me, it's Jamarcus Russell.  Discuss....add to the list....oh, and you know where it was copypasta'd from.



Assuming Rolando McClain is really done, his retirement today at the age of 23 pushes McClain into the conversation of biggest NFL busts. Those who knew McClain when he grew up in Decatur worried this day could happen.

McClain isn't alone as an NFL bust connected to the state of Alabama. For whatever reason, these local players didn't (or so far haven't) lived up to expectations once they reached the NFL. Vote below for your biggest Alabama-connected NFL bust. Are we missing any candidates? Let us know.

JaMarcus Russell, Mobile: The No. 1 draft pick in 2007 was released after three seasons with the Raiders. He threw 18 touchdowns and 23 interceptions and was later arrested on drug charges.

Rolando McClain, Decatur/Alabama: The No. 8 pick in 2010 kept getting arrested and was suspended for clashing with his coach. The Raiders released him, the Ravens signed him, and now he is apparently retired.

Keith McCants, Mobile/Alabama: The No. 4 pick in the 1990 draft entered the NFL with a bad knee and lasted six seasons with minimal impact. Through the years, he has had multiple drug-related arrests and has been broke.

Aundray Bruce, Montgomery/Auburn: The No. 1 pick in 1988 started only 42 games and had 32 sacks as a linebacker with the Falcons and Raiders over 11 years. That's not horrific production, but it's not No. 1 pick production, either.

Brent Fullwood, Auburn: The No. 4 pick in 1987 lasted only four years in the NFL. Fullwood averaged 37 rushing yards a game and 3.9 yards per carry with the Packers.

Nick Fairley, Mobile/Auburn: The jury is still out on the No. 13 pick of 2011. Fairley has had off-the-field problems. He did have 5.5 sacks in 13 games last season with the Lions.

Tracy Rocker, Auburn: The Lombardi and Outland Trophy winner in college, Rocker was a third-round pick in 1989 so he doesn't rise to other bust levels. But despite making the NFL-All Rookie team, his NFL career lasted only two seasons.

Mark Ingram, Alabama: The jury is also still out on the 2011 No. 28 pick and Heisman Trophy winner. Ingram has fought injuries while rushing for 1,076 yards and 3.9 yards per carry in two years with the Saints.

Pat White, Daphne: A second-round pick in 2009 as a Wildcat quarterback, White was released by the Dolphins by 2010. He suffered from concussions, tried baseball again, spent time in the United Football League and was recently signed by the Redskins.

Pat Sullivan, Birmingham/Auburn: Sullivan won the Heisman Trophy in college and was a second-round pick in 1972. But he played only four NFL seasons as a Falcons backup, throwing five touchdowns and 16 interceptions with a career QB rating of 36.5.

Chad Jackson, Hoover: The Patriots traded up to get Jackson early in the second round of the 2006 draft. He played two injury-plagued seasons before he was released and didn't catch on with two other teams.

Lawyer Tillman, Mobile/Auburn: The Browns traded a first-round pick to take Tillman with the first pick of the second round in 1989. His career was quickly ended by injuries. He only played 10 games in three years before a brief comeback try with the Panthers.

I vote McCants.  He was supposed to be a world beater.  I give Russell a pass because from my understanding the Raiders might have been the only team willing to draft him in the first round.  Bruce is the biggest Auburn bust of all time.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 10:22:14 AM »
I vote McCants.  He was supposed to be a world beater.  I give Russell a pass because from my understanding the Raiders might have been the only team willing to draft him in the first round.  Bruce is the biggest Auburn bust of all time.

^^^This^^^
Although McCants only beats out Bruce by .0001 or 23%
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 10:30:14 AM »
This pussy gets my vote.

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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 11:11:30 AM »

Pat Sullivan, Birmingham/Auburn: Sullivan won the Heisman Trophy in college and was a second-round pick in 1972. But he played only four NFL seasons as a Falcons backup, throwing five touchdowns and 16 interceptions with a career QB rating of 36.5.

You could have had Ironman as the QB for the Falcons back then and he would have gotten killed.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 11:27:31 AM »
You could have had Ironman as the QB for the Falcons back then and he would have gotten killed.

Well if he was wearing the original suit....duh.  But, I think he'd have a much better TD/INT ratio with the Iron Man 3 armor.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 03:49:52 PM »
Well if he was wearing the original suit....duh.  But, I think he'd have a much better TD/INT ratio with the Iron Man 3 armor.

Iron Man 3= Cam?
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2013, 06:28:40 PM »
You could have had Ironman as the QB for the Falcons back then and he would have gotten killed.
I think the hangup with Sullivan was his throwing motion which was all but a windup (slow release) that didn't translate.
Always read that Rock had a bum knee(s). Expected more from Tillman. Thought he had some semblance of Oz. Thought wrong! Fullwood never worked out so that was bound to happen. Too early to tell with Fairley, and even Ingram. White was not a QB and meh on Jackson, who showed spurts of inconsistency even at Florida.

McClain was mild disappointment in comparison with #1 Russell, #2 McCants and #3 Bruce though IMO.

*Falcons did come up with Steve Bartkowski who got them in the playoffs maybe twice. Think Dallas put an end to those hopes both times.
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Re: Biggest Bust
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 08:15:24 PM »
So, three of the biggest busts were coached by Coach Lord of Darkness himself...nothing to see here recruits.

alabamuh will get you to the league gooder. After you fall flat on your face because your abilities aren't that great or you fall on your face because now that you're away from our spies that tell us what the play will be, always putting you in the correct position...everytime (unless someone like Coach Malzahn catches onto it and starts sending in players from the sidelines with the plays), you won't have an actual education, since you got pushed through nearly every Core Course (can't have our starters studying their time tables while preparing for the upcoming game)...since you committed to alabamuh back in HS, you also got pushed through there as well. So, really you're 23-30 year old body with the mind of a 14 year old, good luck out there in the real World, you sure could play gooder in college than a lot of other players. Hope your mom still likes her (insert booster's gifts).
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 08:20:42 PM »
So, three of the biggest busts were coached by Coach Lord of Darkness himself...nothing to see here recruits, alabamuh will get you to the league gooder. After you fall flat on your face because your abilities aren't that great or you fall on your face because now that you're away from our spies that tell us what the play will be, always putting you in the correct position...everytime (unless someone like Coach Malzahn catches onto it and starts sending in players from the sidelines with the plays), you won't have an actual education, since you got pushed through nearly every Core Course (can't have our starters studying their time tables while preparing for the upcoming game)...since you committed to alabamuh back in HS, you also got pushed through there as well. So, really you're 23-30 year old body with the mind of a 8 year old, good luck out there in the real World, you sure could tackle gooder than a lot of other players.
This has to be one of the dumbest things you have ever posted.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 08:38:53 PM »
This has to be one of the dumbest things you have ever posted.
What's dumb about it?
uat changes HS player's grades to get them to become eligible? Yup, that happens more than once every year.

uat keeps the starters eligible through their 1-5 year career (1-2 years if the player is coming from JUCO)? Yup, some uat players have no clue what their major is, even when it's Physiology...others still don't know how to spell their name.

uat booster's give player's family gifts? Yup, happens every year on many, many occasions (Houses, cars, money, jobs, condo rentals, etc, etc, etc, Kitchens, etc, etc, etc, paid airfare, etc, etc, cruises, etc, etc, etc)

Player's abilities not being that good, compared to other NFL players? Yup, that goes for most of Coach Lord of Darkness' players.

Anything else, inbred?
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 09:05:40 PM »
So, three of the biggest busts were coached by Coach Lord of Darkness himself...nothing to see here recruits.

alabamuh will get you to the league gooder. After you fall flat on your face because your abilities aren't that great or you fall on your face because now that you're away from our spies that tell us what the play will be, always putting you in the correct position...everytime (unless someone like Coach Malzahn catches onto it and starts sending in players from the sidelines with the plays), you won't have an actual education, since you got pushed through nearly every Core Course (can't have our starters studying their time tables while preparing for the upcoming game)...since you committed to alabamuh back in HS, you also got pushed through there as well. So, really you're 23-30 year old body with the mind of a 14 year old, good luck out there in the real World, you sure could play gooder in college than a lot of other players. Hope your mom still likes her (insert booster's gifts).

I believe this to be true.

What's dumb about it?
uat changes HS player's grades to get them to become eligible? Yup, that happens more than once every year.

uat keeps the starters eligible through their 1-5 year career (1-2 years if the player is coming from JUCO)? Yup, some uat players have no clue what their major is, even when it's Physiology...others still don't know how to spell their name.

uat booster's give player's family gifts? Yup, happens every year on many, many occasions (Houses, cars, money, jobs, condo rentals, etc, etc, etc, Kitchens, etc, etc, etc, paid airfare, etc, etc, cruises, etc, etc, etc)

Player's abilities not being that good, compared to other NFL players? Yup, that goes for most of Coach Lord of Darkness' players.

Anything else, inbred?

Tru Dat!  :rofl:
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 01:46:34 AM »
Oh.  Oops, sorry. Was wondering why Snaggie started a thread about me and the new girl in the Football forum.

Carry on.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2013, 03:19:21 AM »
What's dumb about it?

bottomfeeder has unwittingly affirmed my position.  There is no point in arguing the points, because you're either too stupid or too stubborn to put forth a legitimate discussion.  That is why I simply gave it the good ol' fashioned "you're a dumbass" in the first place.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2013, 08:40:29 AM »
bottomfeeder has unwittingly affirmed my position.  There is no point in arguing the points, because you're either too stupid or too stubborn to put forth a legitimate discussion.  That is why I simply gave it the good ol' fashioned "you're a dumbass" in the first place.
Pfft.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2013, 08:28:19 PM »
bottomfeeder has unwittingly affirmed my position.  There is no point in arguing the points, because you're either too stupid or too stubborn to put forth a legitimate discussion.  That is why I simply gave it the good ol' fashioned "you're a dumbass" in the first place.

Hmmmm, that's interesting.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2013, 10:08:32 PM »
bottomfeeder has unwittingly affirmed my position.  There is no point in arguing the points, because you're either too stupid or too stubborn to put forth a legitimate discussion.  That is why I simply gave it the good ol' fashioned "you're a dumbass" in the first place.

You are sooo fucked. I'm sorry you are confused.
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Re: Biggest Bust
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2013, 10:49:12 PM »
Oh.  Oops, sorry. Was wondering why Snaggie started a thread about me and the new girl in the Football forum.

Carry on.

We're really going to need some visuals to decide.
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