It's the Disability

[Townhallsavoy]

A few years ago, I taught a student whose both parents were on disability, and his sister was also a disabled teenager.  Both parents seemed fine physically - they could walk, talk, breathe, laugh, and do pretty much everything a normal human being could do.  Maybe they each had back issues and couldn’t lift heavy objects, but I saw no reason why they couldn’t work a desk job or sit on a stool and run the cash register at a grocery store. 

Their daughter had issues with being exposed to open air and they claimed she was allergic to something in the school.  So she was a homebound student, and the county paid for  a teacher to go to her house twice a week to be her personal teacher. 

The little brother, whom I taught, was special ed – ADHD – and smelled like garbage every day. 
We held a conference once because the parents were claiming that they were homeless and needed additional assistance for supplies and were even asking for clothing.

They ALL had iphones and they drove a newish (at most three years old) Nissan Maxima.  The mother was decked out in jewelry (could have been WalMart knockoffs, but still was not hurting for fashion). 

How long can we sustain using tax payer money to pay for people who are mooching off of disability?

[bottomfeeder]

We cannot sustain the system in it's present state. I have a disability and I love to work, however, some folks are just prone to relying on other people's money to live. And, that's just not fair.  Hell, I'd love a desk job until I could get back into the field. I choose to work.

[Saniflush]

We cannot sustain the system in it's present state. I have a disability and I love to work, however, some folks are just prone to relying on other people's money to live. And, that's just not fair.  Hell, I'd love a desktop until I could get back into the field. I choose to work.

So what I heard was bottomfeeder = part of the problem

Got it.

[djsimp]

You guys are way over thinking this. These folks are only on disability for the kick ass parking spaces.

[bottomfeeder]

So what I heard was bottomfeeder = part of the problem

Got it.

No, Bottomfeeder works and pays taxes. He just doesn't have a high salary/wage, therefore he pays less in income taxes.

[WiregrassTiger]

So, what we can ascertain from this is that THS is either racist or a capitalist pig for daring to bring this up. But, then again, they are both really one in the same, aren't they?

Some of yous guys needs to learn to embrace socialism and like it. It's not my fault you didn't get your free phone. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[Vandy Vol]

How's the South supposed to rise again when we have the highest percentage of adults on disability?

[Townhallsavoy]

How's the South supposed to rise again when we have the highest percentage of adults on disability?

It's just another facet of our screwed up country. 

We're a country of moochers, and the actual moochers are voting for the party that doesn't want them to mooch. 

[bottomfeeder]

How's the South supposed to rise again when we have the highest percentage of adults on disability?

You can thank the state for that. Alabama's education system - SUCKS!

[Townhallsavoy]

You can thank the state for that. Alabama's education system - SUCKS!

Hey! I resemble that remark!

[AUTiger1]

You can thank the state for that. Alabama's education system - SUCKS!

How in the fuck does education correlate to being on disability?  Now if you had said b/c of the shitty education one may have received they couldn't get a job and went on welfare, then I could see it.  I know some smart well educated motherfuckers that draw a check for disability.  Not b/c of the lack of education they have.......

[CCTAU]

How in the fuck does education correlate to being on disability?  Now if you had said b/c of the shitty education one may have received they couldn't get a job and went on welfare, then I could see it.  I know some smart well educated motherfuckers that draw a check for disability.  Not b/c of the lack of education they have.......

[bottomfeeder]

How in the fuck does education correlate to being on disability?  Now if you had said b/c of the shitty education one may have received they couldn't get a job and went on welfare, then I could see it.  I know some smart well educated motherfuckers that draw a check for disability.  Not b/c of the lack of education they have.......

Uneducated is a disability, just ask any bammer.

http://blog.acton.org/archives/52194-the-hidden-welfare-program-for-the-low-skilled-and-uneducated.html

Whether you’re disabled often depends on your education level and what types of work you can do:

    “We talk about the pain and what it’s like,” he says. “I always ask them, ‘What grade did you finish?’”

    What grade did you finish, of course, is not really a medical question. But Dr. Timberlake believes he needs this information in disability cases because people who have only a high school education aren’t going to be able to get a sit-down job.

    Dr. Timberlake is making a judgment call that if you have a particular back problem and a college degree, you’re not disabled. Without the degree, you are.


Determining who is disabled isn’t a clear cut process:

    As far as the federal government is concerned, you’re disabled if you have a medical condition that makes it impossible to work. In practice, it’s a judgment call made in doctors’ offices and courtrooms around the country. The health problems where there is most latitude for judgment — back pain, mental illness — are among the fastest growing causes of disability.

Disability has become a de facto welfare program for people without a lot of education or job skills:

    There used to be a lot of jobs that you could do with just a high school degree, and that paid enough to be considered middle class. I knew, of course, that those have been disappearing for decades. What surprised me was what has been happening to many of the people who lost those jobs: They’ve been going on disability.

    If there’d been a mill for Scott to go back to work in, he says, he’d have done that too. But there wasn’t a mill, so he went on disability. It wasn’t just Scott. I talked to a bunch of mill guys who took this path — one who shattered the bones in his ankle and leg, one with diabetes, another with a heart attack. When the mill shut down, they all went on disability.

States pay consultants to help them find people to shift from welfare to disability:

    A person on welfare costs a state money. That same resident on disability doesn’t cost the state a cent, because the federal government covers the entire bill for people on disability. So states can save money by shifting people from welfare to disability. And the Public Consulting Group is glad to help.

    PCG is a private company that states pay to comb their welfare rolls and move as many people as possible onto disability. “What we’re offering is to work to identify those folks who have the highest likelihood of meeting disability criteria,” Pat Coakley, who runs PCG’s Social Security Advocacy Management team, told me.

[AUTiger1]

 

Uneducated is a disability, just ask any bammer.

http://blog.acton.org/archives/52194-the-hidden-welfare-program-for-the-low-skilled-and-uneducated.html

Not taking advantage of your educational opportunities is not the reason for higher disability claims.  I hate to be the one to break that to you and destroy your little box, but that is not the reason.  Take me for example, I am dumber than a box of shit, but here I am with a pretty good job (one that pays me and I still get to post on the X) to allow me to own a home, vehicles, have two kids and still save some for a rainy day.......

There is thing called...um....oh yeah, personal responsibility that some people have zero of and it's not the schools fault.  It all leads back to one place, care to take a guess where that is?

[bottomfeeder]

Not taking advantage of your educational opportunities is not the reason for higher disability claims.  I hate to be the one to break that to you and destroy your little box, but that is not the reason.  Take me for example, I am dumber than a box of shit, but here I am with a pretty good job (one that pays me and I still get to post on the X) to allow me to own a home, vehicles, have two kids and still save some for a rainy day.......

There is thing called...um....oh yeah, personal responsibility that some people have zero of and it's not the schools fault.  It all leads back to one place, care to take a guess where that is?

The home environment or the present White House residents?

I want a job like you have.

[Snaggletiger]

Not taking advantage of your educational opportunities is not the reason for higher disability claims.  I hate to be the one to break that to you and destroy your little box, but that is not the reason.  Take me for example, I am dumber than a box of shit, but here I am with a pretty good job (one that pays me and I still get to post on the X) to allow me to own a home, vehicles, have two kids and still save some for a rainy day.......

There is thing called...um....oh yeah, personal responsibility that some people have zero of and it's not the schools fault.  It all leads back to one place, care to take a guess where that is?

This^^^ Well, not all of it.  Okay, maybe all of it.  But especially the 3rd line.

[AUTiger1]

The home environment?

You are damn skippy!  If you want a lot of problems fixed start in the home.  I taught a few smart kids that had shitty grades b/c mom and dad or the legal guardian didn't give a shit.  I know they were smart.  I witnessed what they could do, but b/c no one at home cared, they didn't either.  Being accountable for your actions was the same way with those students, give them ISS, they didn't give a shit, no one at home did either.  Blame it on who you want, but from my experience I see a lot of "I don't care" going on in home environments that nothing you do as an educator will overcome it all.  You may reach one or two, but the majority will not respond.  It wasn't the kids or the system that made me get out.

 

[AUTiger1]

This^^^ Well, not all of it.  Okay, maybe all of it.  But especially the 3rd line.

Yeah, what he said.....wait... why you son-of-a...

[Snaggletiger]

Yeah, what he said.....wait... why you son-of-a...

What?  You do have a pretty good job, don't you?

[AUTiger1]

What?  You do have a pretty good job, don't you?

Oh, yeah.  Carry on then.