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« on: March 25, 2013, 12:52:32 PM »
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One thing the article points out is the guys in the class they just signed are all big, physical athletes.  Don't think we've ever had so many guys playing back there with that kind of size.  I envision some bone jarring hits in the years to come.  Malzahn said Khari Harding hits as hard as anyone he's ever seen.


AUBURN, Alabama -- When Auburn opens spring practice on Wednesday, all eyes for Tigers fans will be on the safeties, where Ellis Johnson and Charlie Harbison have to figure out where players fit.  Auburn plays three safeties in Johnson's system: A boundary safety, who plays on the short side of the field and rolls down into the box against the run; a free safety, who plays the middle of the field and acts as more of a ballhawk; and what Johnson calls the Star, a hybrid safety-linebacker who has to have the physicality to play at the line of scrimmage and the speed to cover players on the outside. 

This is the 10th installment in a series looking at Auburn's personnel as the Tigers prepare to open spring practice on March 27. For a look at how the shift to the 4-2-5 affects the safeties' responsibilities, check out the series AL.com published earlier this month. 

BY THE NUMBERS

•Demetruce McNeal: 90 tackles, 7 tackles-for-loss, 1 sack, 4 pass breakups, 1 fumble forced, 1 fumble recovery
•Jermaine Whitehead: 86 tackles, 4 tackles-for-loss, 1 sack, 5 pass breakups, 1 fumble recovery
•Ryan Smith: 27 tackles, 0.5 tackles-for-loss, 1 fumble recovery
•Trent Fisher: 16 tackles, 1 interception
•Erique Florence: 8 tackles, 1 tackle-for-loss

THE DEPARTED

•Ikeem Means: 2 tackles

SPRING CAST


•Demetruce McNeal, Sr.
•Ryan Smith, Sr.
•Jermaine Whitehead, Jr.
•Trent Fisher, Jr.
•Erique Florence, Jr.

ON THE WAY

•Brandon King, Jr.
•Khari Harding, Fr.
•Mackenro Alexander, Fr.

BURNING QUESTION

-- With three safeties on the field in the base defense and relatively few returning candidates, will Ellis Johnson and Charlie Harbison move anybody over from cornerback or linebacker, particularly to the Star position?

BIGGEST RESUME

Demetruce McNeal has shown flashes of being the type of player who could fill either the Star or boundary safety positions, both positions that will roll down into the box against the run. McNeal's problem has been consistency. After bursting back into the starting lineup with 18 tackles against Mississippi State, but he also had a few games where he had trouble taking angles to the ball, particularly against Georgia. McNeal runs to the ball well, is a sure tackler when he takes the right angles and hustles all over the field. The key for McNeal is putting it all together on a game-by-game basis.

FLASH OF POTENTIAL

After playing cornerback as a freshman, Jermaine Whitehead made the move to safety and made 86 tackles, but he failed to make many big plays and struggled at times in zone coverage at the back of the secondary. Whitehead's versatility is what led Auburn's former coaching staff to put him at safety; the same type of versatility could be an asset in Johnson's 4-2-5 scheme. Erique Florence's lack of playing time has been frustrating for Auburn fans after his reputation coming out of Valley High, but he has the size and physical nature required to play either the Star or the boundary, and he might get a shot there.

ON THE WAY

All three of Auburn's safety signees were recruited specifically to fit Johnson's scheme, and they all fit the same profile: big-bodied players with lots of tackling experience and an ability to pack a wallop. Brandon King and Khari Harding both had reputations as big-time hitters, and Johnson has said both could play the Star position going forward. Mackenro Alexander played outside linebacker in high school, and his versatility could fit all three positions.

FACTS OF LIFE

-- Four different players started at least one game for the Tigers last season at safety.


QUOTABLE

-- "We've got a vision and a projection of where these guys'll end up, but frankly, by the time we get through the end of spring ball, we may swap a couple of guys. A lot of times, a guy that looks like a star backer ends up being a deep guy because he's smart, he plays with his eyes, and he plays 4.4, even though he's really about a 4.5 or 4.6." -- Ellis Johnson


 
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 01:14:43 PM »
FLASH OF POTENTIAL

 Erique Florence's lack of playing time has been frustrating for Auburn fans after his reputation coming out of Valley High, but he has the size and physical nature required to play either the Star or the boundary, and he might get a shot there.
 

I never understood what happen to him. But after last years coaching As JR said-Everybody gets a pass. Hopefully this season he really shines.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 01:16:36 PM »
These are the guys that make this defense go, after the DTs in the middle.  I don't know about whole lot about EJ's defense, but from what I hear it's an attacking/blitzing/stunting type deal.   These Safeties are really hybrid S/LBs for the most part.  The 4-2-5 is, depending upon alignment and coverage, a Nickle, a 4-3, or a 4-4 defense.  That said, it's not truly any of them by personnel.  That means no matter what your alignment and coverage, there's some compromise somewhere in personnel, either by skill set, size, or speed.  One of those three guys, probably the guy they're calling "Star" has a shitload of responsibility.  He must play run, and pass equally.  He's usually in the box.  He's an OLB that needs cover skills, or a Nickle-back that needs to be bad ass enough to play run support effectively.  Honestly, I don't know who we've recruited the last few years that fits that.  D. Bates probably would have shined in this defense as a hybrid S/LB.  This position worries me because, as I understand most 4-2-5s, these 3 guys are supposed to be the leading tacklers.     
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 01:33:29 PM »
I never understood what happen to him. But after last years coaching As JR said-Everybody gets a pass. Hopefully this season he really shines.

I was pimping Florence for two years after watching him play in HS.  I do know he's had some injuries while at AU but really, he's done nothing.  Totally agree with the everydody gets a pass, take.  The more you look back on the last couple of years, the more it comes to light that that staff was off in some other universe.  Prime example is C. McKinzy. I don't give a rat's arse if he knew all the alignments or not.  As horrible as that defense was and watching how he played in his one start against Vandy...12 tackles, flying to the ball, making hard, clean tackles when he arrived....and the guy barely played after that?  But they played Holland and Evans? 
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 01:35:32 PM »
BIGGEST RESUME

Demetruce McNeal has shown flashes of being the type of player who could fill either the Star or boundary safety positions, both positions that will roll down into the box against the run. McNeal's problem has been consistency. After bursting back into the starting lineup with 18 tackles against Mississippi State, but he also had a few games where he had trouble taking angles to the ball, particularly against Georgia. McNeal runs to the ball well, is a sure tackler when he takes the right angles and hustles all over the field. The key for McNeal is putting it all together on a game-by-game basis.

I laughed like hell at this. I saw McNeal leave a trench in the earth under the ball carrier's feet in order to trip him more times than any tackle. At one point in time, I thought he was submarine man.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 01:48:50 PM »
I laughed like hell at this. I saw McNeal leave a trench in the earth under the ball carrier's feet in order to trip him more times than any tackle. At one point in time, I thought he was submarine man.

And then he'd threaten to quit after every game.  No question he was the poster boy for the submarine tackle.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 03:29:58 PM »
And then he'd threaten to quit after every game.  No question he was the poster boy for the submarine tackle.

Meatboi ain't got to take this shit from you.  He's outta here on the next bus.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 03:32:47 PM »
Meatboi ain't got to take this shit from you.  He's outta here on the next bus.

Peeps be takin' stuff da' wrong way.  I gots some personal shit dat ain't gots nuffin' to do wiff football.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2013, 03:37:53 PM »
Peeps be takin' stuff da' wrong way.  I gots some personal shoot dat ain't gots nuffin' to do wiff football.



Pre Med Major, I'd bet
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2013, 03:42:30 PM »


Pre Med Major, I'd bet

Circumspecial evidence, your honor
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2013, 03:59:42 PM »


Pre Med Major, I'd bet
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2013, 04:23:33 PM »


Pre Med Major, I'd bet

Fuck this kind of stupid shit!  I'm under the opinion that all schools pay players and it's just a fact of college football.  However, if we were to get busted I would want to know that our money was going to a GOOD player (Cam was the best $180 grand we've ever spent) and not some gansta wanna be like this POS.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2013, 04:35:30 PM »
Fuck this kind of stupid shit!  I'm under the opinion that all schools pay players and it's just a fact of college football.  However, if we were to get busted I would want to know that our money was going to a GOOD player (Cam was the best $180 grand we've ever spent) and not some gansta wanna be like this POS.

Are you insinuating he's not from the skreetz?  D'Neal's gonna' break it off proppa and drop chronic plates on yo' ass.  So if you come, you bettah comes correct.  Boi 
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 04:41:48 PM »
Are you insinuating he's not from the skreetz?  D'Neal's gonna' break it off proppa and drop chronic plates on yo' ass.  So if you come, you bettah comes correct.  Boi

Damn Snaggs, I didn't know you were straight up gansta
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2013, 04:43:18 PM »
Damn Snaggs, I didn't know you were straight up gansta

I listen to the Dr. Dre from time to time.
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2013, 05:35:22 PM »
fudge this kind of stupid shoot!  I'm under the opinion that all schools pay players and it's just a fact of college football.  However, if we were to get busted I would want to know that our money was going to a GOOD player (Cam was the best $180 grand we've ever spent) and not some gansta wanna be like this POS.
If what you believe is correct, then we are paying Jake Holland. So, I wonder how much he makes per whiff-dive?
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2013, 07:23:30 PM »
I was pimping Florence for two years after watching him play in HS.  I do know he's had some injuries while at AU but really, he's done nothing.  Totally agree with the everydody gets a pass, take.  The more you look back on the last couple of years, the more it comes to light that that staff was off in some other universe.  Prime example is C. McKinzy. I don't give a rat's arse if he knew all the alignments or not.  As horrible as that defense was and watching how he played in his one start against Vandy...12 tackles, flying to the ball, making hard, clean tackles when he arrived....and the guy barely played after that?  But they played Holland and Evans?
Btw...

Erique Florence....






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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 11:29:13 AM »
If what you believe is correct, then we are paying Jake Holland. So, I wonder how much he makes per whiff-dive?

Well there is a federal law about minimum wage. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 12:31:55 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 01:12:55 PM »
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