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« on: March 11, 2013, 11:49:39 AM »
The article doesn't get into many specifics, but it does give a good insight concerning this staff's philosophy.  When they speak to the discipline issue this way, it just further cements for me, that the program under Chizik was in total disarray.  You get the sense that guys were doing their own thing with little or no accountability.  cops-n-pastas al.com


AUBURN, Alabama -- By now, every member of Gus Malzahn's new coaching staff at Auburn, from the head coach on down, has been asked the same question at some point or the other.  After a lack of discipline derailed Gene Chizik's final season on the Plains, Auburn's coaching staff has to create a regimented, disciplined atmosphere around a program trying to rebuild. 

For their part, Malzahn's coaching staff has been careful to refrain from commenting on the previous staff's work, but it's clear that discipline has been a point of emphasis as Auburn's coaches conduct winter workouts and prepare for the start of spring practice on March 27.  "That's the No. 1 thing we feel like we have to instill in our kids in the spring is discipline, on and off the field," offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said at a Montgomery Quarterback Club meeting in early February. "That's something we pride ourselves on." 

Under Chizik, disciplinary issues ranging from legal to academic came to light after Auburn fired the former head coach, leaving room for the new staff to establish a new set of rules.  And although Auburn's coaches haven't publicly listed any specific rules, Malzahn's coaching staff says expectations have been clearly outlined for the Tigers.

"We have a standard that we've got to hold them to, and that's every day," Auburn defensive line coach Rodney Garner said. "Whether it's class attendance, study hall, mentors, how they react in the weight room, how they clean up the locker room, just everything that they do."  Enforcing that standard is built on a foundation of staff unity, according to Auburn's coaches.  For the Tigers' players to meet the standard, every member of the staff has to be on the same page, enforcing each and every rule the same way, with no exceptions.

"You have to have everybody on the same page," offensive line coach J.B. Grimes said. "What happens to people, to coaching staffs, is one lets something get away, and one doesn't."  Interviewed separately by reporters a couple of weeks ago, Auburn's assistant coaches all spoke about instilling a sense of responsibility and accountability into their respective position groups, giving examples that ranged from academics to offseason workouts to the practice field. 

"It's been that way from the first day we got here. It's going to continue that way," Garner said. "We have standards set. Those standards are going to be demanded. We're going to hold them accountable."  rimes put it another way. If a player's hand is supposed to be behind the white line, and even one hangnail slips over that line, that's non-negotiable.  And if it's non-negotiable, it's unacceptable. 

"At some point, it's what you're willing to bend on. There are some things in life that are negotiable, and there are some things in life that are non-negotiable," Grimes said. "It gets down to that detail right there is having the focus on those non-negotiable things and then never bending. You never bend." 

Malzahn has already made one discipline-related decision. A week ago, Malzahn dismissed defensive tackle Devaunte Sigler for an undisclosed violation of team rules.  Asked about the move last week, Malzahn responded by referencing the standards set for the team at the start of his tenure. 

"We’re going to have high standards for what we’re doing," Malzahn said. "We’re going to move forward, and the guys that are with us are going to be representing us the right way."




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Re: Discipline
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 01:19:09 PM »
I'm not saying Gus isn't going to instill discipline.  I think he will, and is.  However, don't we hear the "there's a new sheriff in town" thing with every new coaching staff?
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 01:21:50 PM »
I'm not saying Gus isn't going to instill discipline.  I think he will, and is.  However, don't we hear the "there's a new sheriff in town" thing with every new coaching staff?
Yep.  Show me something different.
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Re: Discipline
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 02:05:41 PM »
I doubt CGM is implementing any ground breaking system that will instantly make super athletes and model citizens out of these guys.  I believe the whole "Lack of developing" the talent we have was a direct result of the overall absence of discipline under Chizik.  It was obvious that guys were getting pushed around.  It was painfully obvious that they quit and just wanted to get through the season this past year.  Think about Texas A&M, Georgia and Bama.  The only reason any of those teams ever punted the ball was because they were down to playing 3rd string guys.  Auburn had long since stopped trying. 

I've said several times that all the recruiting experts can't be wrong.  We've had top flight recruitng classes for 3-4 years now. There is talent on this club.  We may be thin at a couple of positions not bad enough to be embarrassed the way they were time after time last season.  I just want to this staff's form of discipline to get these guys focused on performing at their best.  I want them physically and mentally stronger and ready to do battle in the SEC. They weren't ready to do battle in the Sun Belt last year.  I can live with a loss if we come out of it thinking that if we just had this or that piece of the puzzle, it might have been different.  I just can't take going into a game thinking  :facepalm: I really don't want to watch this. 
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Re: Discipline
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 03:17:07 PM »
I doubt CGM is implementing any ground breaking system that will instantly make super athletes and model citizens out of these guys.  I believe the whole "Lack of developing" the talent we have was a direct result of the overall absence of discipline under Chizik.  It was obvious that guys were getting pushed around.  It was painfully obvious that they quit and just wanted to get through the season this past year.  Think about Texas A&M, Georgia and Bama.  The only reason any of those teams ever punted the ball was because they were down to playing 3rd string guys.  Auburn had long since stopped trying. 

I've said several times that all the recruiting experts can't be wrong.  We've had top flight recruitng classes for 3-4 years now. There is talent on this club.  We may be thin at a couple of positions not bad enough to be embarrassed the way they were time after time last season.  I just want to this staff's form of discipline to get these guys focused on performing at their best.  I want them physically and mentally stronger and ready to do battle in the SEC. They weren't ready to do battle in the Sun Belt last year.  I can live with a loss if we come out of it thinking that if we just had this or that piece of the puzzle, it might have been different.  I just can't take going into a game thinking  :facepalm: I really don't want to watch this.

And after the first game you knew the season was gonna be a cluster fuck.
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Re: Discipline
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 03:32:35 PM »
And after the first game you knew the season was gonna be a cluster fuck.

I actually had a little hope, even after Climpsum.  I thought had we just done this or that....had Frayzha made this pass....

How I held out some semblence of optomism to this point is beyond me.  But, it was the Arkansas game when it finally sunk in that this program really had hit a new all-time low.  2 weeks to prepare for a team playing horribly.  And AU looked like 5 day old roadkill.  Turnovers, penalties, sacks out the ass.
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Re: Discipline
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 03:45:18 PM »
I actually had a little hope, even after Climpsum.  I thought had we just done this or that....had Frayzha made this pass....

How I held out some semblence of optomism to this point is beyond me.  But, it was the Arkansas game when it finally sunk in that this program really had hit a new all-time low.  2 weeks to prepare for a team playing horribly.  And AU looked like 5 day old roadkill.  Turnovers, penalties, sacks out the ass.
Agree, the signs were not obvious after Clemson.

MSU was the first sign of a clusterfuck out there. Going to OT against ULM was bad, but we still came out on top, and I credited our will to win and chocked it up to something along the lines of the Utah State game the year before. LSU gave me false hope again the same way Clemson did. It took handily losing to the other dumpster fire in the SEC known as Arkansas to realize that we were in for a miserable season. Losses to Ole Miss & Vandy the following weeks was when I realized we were approaching unprecedented levels of suck, and then all hope of NOT having the worst season of my entire life was officially sealed after a 42 point loss to the new guys, A&M.
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Re: Discipline
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 04:40:20 PM »
Agree, the signs were not obvious after Clemson.

MSU was the first sign of a clusterfuck out there. Going to OT against ULM was bad, but we still came out on top, and I credited our will to win and chocked it up to something along the lines of the Utah State game the year before. LSU gave me false hope again the same way Clemson did. It took handily losing to the other dumpster fire in the SEC known as Arkansas to realize that we were in for a miserable season. Losses to Ole Miss & Vandy the following weeks was when I realized we were approaching unprecedented levels of suck, and then all hope of NOT having the worst season of my entire life was officially sealed after a 42 point loss to the new guys, A&M.


And it wasn't even that close.

Even the Air force guys didn't want to be seen near the stadium.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 08:20:54 AM »
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I set out on a journey 2 1/2 years ago. Today, I successfully defended my doctoral dissertation, and was officially doctorized by Auburn University. I thank God for seeing me through this process. I thank him for my doctoral committee, my family, friends and the support and encouragement I've received along the way. I'm humbled and most grateful. In reaching this great milestone in my life, I know that I have not come to the end of the journey but rather the beginning. The beginning as Dr. Karibi Dede. A beginning which calls for my leadership in the field, as well as playing an active role in both research and practice. I am honored to be a contributing member to the greater body of knowledge in the social sciences, and I look forward to a continuous effort to drive and advance what is known presently in the field. Today is a pretty cool day. Today, I became a doctor, a philosopher, a social scientist, and reached a goal which can only be reach through hard work, persistence and dedication.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 01:10:23 PM »
Karibi Dede
I set out on a journey 2 1/2 years ago. Today, I successfully defended my doctoral dissertation, and was officially doctorized by Auburn University. I thank God for seeing me through this process. I thank him for my doctoral committee, my family, friends and the support and encouragement I've received along the way. I'm humbled and most grateful. In reaching this great milestone in my life, I know that I have not come to the end of the journey but rather the beginning. The beginning as Dr. Karibi Dede. A beginning which calls for my leadership in the field, as well as playing an active role in both research and practice. I am honored to be a contributing member to the greater body of knowledge in the social sciences, and I look forward to a continuous effort to drive and advance what is known presently in the field. Today is a pretty cool day. Today, I became a doctor, a philosopher, a social scientist, and reached a goal which can only be reach through hard work, persistence and dedication.

Can you post a link to this?
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Re: Discipline
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 01:29:57 PM »
Can you post a link to this?

I'm betting its teh facepages.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 01:32:30 PM »
Can you post a link to this?

no link, but this one that says he was working on it...

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/dede_karibi00.html

Guessing he finished it. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 01:47:42 PM »
Can you post a link to this?

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 01:57:15 PM »
Dr. Dede worked hard and got good resultnique
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 04:46:21 PM »
Agree, the signs were not obvious after Clemson.

MSU was the first sign of a clusterfuck out there. Going to OT against ULM was bad, but we still came out on top, and I credited our will to win and chocked it up to something along the lines of the Utah State game the year before. LSU gave me false hope again the same way Clemson did. It took handily losing to the other dumpster fire in the SEC known as Arkansas to realize that we were in for a miserable season. Losses to Ole Miss & Vandy the following weeks was when I realized we were approaching unprecedented levels of suck, and then all hope of NOT having the worst season of my entire life was officially sealed after a 42 point loss to the new guys, A&M.
Exactly.
False hope against LSU
Bye Week
Well rested players....Ass raping nearly the rest of the season.

Question, when did Coach Chizik implement the Secret Service Security Team to watch the players? Iirc, it was either at the start of the season with the Dismukes arrest or right around the bye week.
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2013, 04:53:08 PM »
Exactly.
False hope against LSU
Bye Week
Well rested players....Ass raping nearly the rest of the season.

Question, when did Coach Chizik implement the Secret Service Security Team to watch the players? Iirc, it was either at the start of the season with the Dismukes arrest or right around the bye week.

Does it really matter anymore? The kids are excited, I'm excited, so that should be it with reflections of the Chiz (helmet lining)days.
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Re: Discipline
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2013, 04:56:20 PM »
Can you post a link to this?
And, can you get a job with this?
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2013, 07:42:49 PM »
I actually had a little hope, even after Climpsum.  I thought had we just done this or that....had Frayzha made this pass....

How I held out some semblence of optomism to this point is beyond me.  But, it was the Arkansas game when it finally sunk in that this program really had hit a new all-time low.  2 weeks to prepare for a team playing horribly.  And AU looked like 5 day old roadkill.  Turnovers, penalties, sacks out the ass.
The Arkansas game was the spotlight game for me last season, too. One of the worst Hog teams ever, reeling and demoralized, coached by a buffoon, and we go out and get hammered by them. This was the first Auburn football game I've ever walked out of before the final whistle.
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2013, 09:30:57 AM »
The Arkansas game was the spotlight game for me last season, too. One of the worst Hog teams ever, reeling and demoralized, coached by a buffoon, and we go out and get hammered by them. This was the first Auburn football game I've ever walked out of before the final whistle.

After the Arky game, I just recorded the games and then locked myself quietly in a room and watched the game. I figured I would fast forward through the bad stuff. usually took about ten minutes to watch the whole game.....
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2013, 10:30:11 AM »
With respect to the 2012 highlights, our performance should have given the bammers some ammunition. However, it was so pathetic, even the bammers were speechless.
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