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Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« on: February 27, 2013, 03:04:09 PM »
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GOP Senate leader Mitch McConnell supports bill to legalize hemp production

By Kasie Hunt, NBC News

The federal government currently puts hemp in the same category of illegal drug as heroin, LSD and ecstasy -- but the Senate's top Republican wants to change that.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R - Ky., joined forces Thursday with a pair of West Coast Democrats -- Oregon Sens. Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley -- to cosponsor a bill that would allow American farmers to grow hemp without fear of punishment. Also on board is libertarian Rand Paul, McConnell's fellow Republican Bluegrass State senator.

“I am proud to introduce legislation with my friend Rand Paul that will allow Kentucky farmers to harness the economic potential that industrial hemp can provide,” McConnell said in a statement Thursday. "During these tough economic times, this legislation has the potential to create jobs and provide a boost to Kentucky’s economy and to our farmers and their families."

The debate over legalization of hemp is contentious in Kentucky. The Chamber of Commerce supports legalization, but some law enforcement groups say it is a step that could lead to the legalization of marijuana.

McConnell's move follows action in the Kentucky state Senate, which voted Thursday to legalize hemp production there -- if the federal government also decrees that it's legal. Oregon has approved hemp production, but farmers can still be prosecuted under federal law.

Hemp is a variety of Cannabis sativa, the plant species that also produces marijuana. McConnell wants to legalize so-called industrial hemp, which contains a much smaller amount of THC, the chemical that produces marijuana's high.

Proponents of industrial hemp tout its many legal uses, such as in soap, cosmetics, and rope for sailboats and other watercraft. Farmers say hemp twine is much stronger than other rope used to bind bales of hay. Toyota -- which builds Camrys in Kentucky -- has spoken in favor of hemp legalization, saying they want to use the fibers in car panels and insulation.

Typically, the plants that make great industrial hemp make less potent marijuana. Plants that make great pot don't usually produce the strongest industrial fibers.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 09:48:50 PM »
Toyota -- which builds Camrys in Kentucky -- has spoken in favor of hemp legalization, saying they want to use the fibers in car panels and insulation
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 10:16:31 PM »
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 11:07:09 PM »
The water...Cascading off yo boooody...
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2013, 09:06:09 AM »
This will be fighting big money oil. hemp was ding just fine till the early part of the 19 century when the oil companies paid to have the government classify it as cannabis. Overnight the nylon rope was king.

The uses of hemp far outweigh the risk of someone smoking an 8 foot tall plant all at once just to get the same high as one marijuana joint.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2013, 11:12:06 AM »
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Well, good.  Maybe a stance on national pot decriminalization isn't far away; FedGov needs as many revenue streams as possible.  On the other hand I can't hire anybody who can't pass the drug test; my bonding company won't allow it, my insurance company won't allow it, and my clients won't allow it.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 11:14:49 AM »
I have no issue with this. At all. The GOP needs to get on board with this kind of thought.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 11:30:54 AM »
This will be fighting big money oil. hemp was ding just fine till the early part of the 19 century when the oil companies paid to have the government classify it as cannabis. Overnight the nylon rope was king.

The uses of hemp far outweigh the risk of someone smoking an 8 foot tall plant all at once just to get the same high as one marijuana joint.
Actually, you're close, but not accurate.

It was Citizen Kane himself, William Randolph Hurst that demonized it. He ran the news papers, and also owned paper mills to produce these papers. Because hemp was so much more economical, and better quality, it would have put his paper mills out of business, and hence the yellow journalism campaign.

Marijuana was colloquially referred to as cannabis and was not thought of as a big deal. Hearst started the campaign against the "new drug" called Marijuana. A lot more people thought like you back in those days and were terrified by anything that sounded like it was associated with teh brown people. He ran bullshit stories about how it fueled rape and murder sprees and must be stopped. Also it was much easier to demonize something people had never heard of. If most people had known that marijuana and cannabis were the same thing, they would have probably called bullshit.

Hence the marijuana laws we have today.




Well, good.  Maybe a stance on national pot decriminalization isn't far away; FedGov needs as many revenue streams as possible.  On the other hand I can't hire anybody who can't pass the drug test; my bonding company won't allow it, my insurance company won't allow it, and my clients won't allow it.
That's the problem. If it were legalized, that's the first step in eliminating those silly restrictions.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 11:38:33 AM »
I have no issue with this. At all. The GOP needs to get on board with this kind of thought.
Yes, but is your support because of the possible economic enhancement or simply because you are a pot head?
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 11:48:04 AM »
I have no issue with this. At all. The GOP needs to get on board with this kind of thought.
I agree. Would be probably the single best possible way at earning back some youth vote.

If you remove the silly "morality" tag from this (which I think I've beaten to death in regards to the negative effects of marijuana vs. alcohol), this should be what Republicans stand for.

Prohibition = bad. Government overreach = bad. The government spending involved in the war on drugs = bad. Freedom = good. The economic benefit to applying the free market to marijuana = good.

If the GOP could convey this message without fucking it up, I think it would gain some youth votes.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 11:50:57 AM »
Yes, but is your support because of the possible economic enhancement or simply because you are a pot head?

Mine is for the possible economic enhancement and furthermore, I don't give a fuck if anyone smokes it as long as it doesn't infringe on any of my freedom.   
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2013, 11:57:41 AM »
Mine is for the possible economic enhancement and furthermore, I don't give a fuck if anyone smokes it as long as it doesn't infringe on any of my freedom.   
To elaborate on my previous point, what I meant by the GOP should "communicate this effectively", is that the stigma of the GOP as "the man" in the eyes of the youth, could be reversed with the message of, "Hey, we want to legalize pot. We want to legalize gambling in your state. We want to give you more freedoms, because that's what we're about. We don't believe the government should be your nanny."

If the GOP would sell this message, with conviction, it would go a long way with the 18-30 crowd, which is who they've pretty much lost entirely.

Do I have faith that they will actually do this? No. Too much influence from the Christian right.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2013, 12:55:03 PM »
That's the problem. If it were legalized, that's the first step in eliminating those silly restrictions.

Let me ask this...When an accident happens on a job site and workers comp has to be involved, who and how determines whether they were high at the time of the accident?

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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2013, 01:16:29 PM »
Let me ask this...When an accident happens on a job site and workers comp has to be involved, who and how determines whether they were high at the time of the accident?

Someone else who lives in Realsville.
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2013, 01:42:53 PM »
Someone else who lives in Realsville.

and while I'm at it let's continue this thought stream....

Since I am required by the state gubment to have workers comp insurance will the federal gubment now pay my premiums since I'm sure it will be illegal for me to discriminate against anyone who tests positive for inhaling the leafy rope?  And if da "feral" gubment pays my state premiums will they have more say in how I run my privately owned business which by definition would no longer be privately owned.

There is much more to this discussion than whether or not someone should be able to get stoned in the comfort of their own home. 

I'm actually all for that but you cannot create the nanny state in regards to other things and then expect it to not bleed over into everything else.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2013, 01:53:25 PM »
Let me ask this...When an accident happens on a job site and workers comp has to be involved, who and how determines whether they were high at the time of the accident?
How is it done now with alcohol? Why should it be treated differently?
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2013, 01:55:25 PM »
How is it done now with alcohol? Why should it be treated differently?

Well I can test someone on the spot and tell you if they are drunk/what their BAC level is.

How do you do that with mary jane?
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2013, 01:58:53 PM »
Well I can test someone on the spot and tell you if they are drunk/what their BAC level is.

How do you do that with mary jane?

I thought there were piss test that could tell immediately?
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Re: Mitch McConnell Supports Legalizing Hemp
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2013, 02:00:59 PM »
Well I can test someone on the spot and tell you is they are drunk.

How do you do that with mary jane?
THC tests.

Related:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/02/13/dnt-driving-under-influence-marijuana.kiro

Both interesting, relevant, and funny.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2013, 02:01:00 PM »
I thought there were piss test that could tell immediately?

You just throw a twinky out on the ground. If they jump on it, you got'em!


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2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.