Lemon Ear Declaring For the Draft

oldautiger · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2012, 06:23:40 PM »

Fucking Up big time there bubba

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2012, 06:35:53 PM »

jmar · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2012, 06:50:01 PM »

Quote from: oldautiger on December 31, 2012, 06:23:40 PM

Fucking Up big time there bubba

I still think Corey missed out not playing LB and don't think he has much of a pro career but then last I looked Tristan Davis was on a roster.

JR4AU · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2012, 07:12:53 PM »

All you talent scouts would do well to remember he played on a dumpster fire of a team this past season. Scout has him listed as the 24th overall in their top 32. Todd McShay had him going in the first round as well. One NFL scout service I saw online had him the #4 DE in the draft. If he has a good combine, he'll likely be no worse than a 2nd rounder...if he is as expected, then maybe 3rd. Or he may shit the bed at the combine, and drop off the boards, who knows? He's most likely going to go to a 3-4 team and play OLB.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737318

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2012, 07:23:37 PM »

Stanley McClover part deux?

AWK · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2012, 08:15:48 PM »

Derp. 6th round for the win.

JR4AU · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2012, 08:19:18 PM »

Y'all hoping he fails?

RWS · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2012, 09:13:30 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on December 31, 2012, 08:19:18 PM

Y'all hoping he fails?

Just kind of a headscratcher I suppose. Maybe he got lost in the shuffle of this year's team being so bad. Maybe teams schemed him out. He looked really good last year, but didn't seem greatly productive this season. Not first or second round productive IMO.

JR4AU · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2012, 09:24:16 PM »

Quote from: RWS on December 31, 2012, 09:13:30 PM

Just kind of a headscratcher I suppose. Maybe he got lost in the shuffle of this year's team being so bad. Maybe teams schemed him out. He looked really good last year, but didn't seem greatly productive this season. Not first or second round productive IMO.

How much do you think that matters to the NFL scouts?

RWS · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2012, 09:36:02 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on December 31, 2012, 09:24:16 PM

How much do you think that matters to the NFL scouts?

I get where you're coming from. It's the same reason sometimes you see a guy from St. Mary's School of the Blind starting as a rookie in the NFL sometimes. Like I said, I don't know if that, to the regular fan, maybe he was just overshadowed by a shitty season overall. Maybe he wasn't given the opportunity to perform the way he did last season. I just don't think that he will go in the first two rounds regardless. I think he is a pretty good player, and will be a good value in the 3rd or 4th round.

JR4AU · « **Reply #11 on:** December 31, 2012, 09:49:03 PM »

Quote from: RWS on December 31, 2012, 09:36:02 PM

I get where you're coming from. It's the same reason sometimes you see a guy from St. Mary's School of the Blind starting as a rookie in the NFL sometimes. Like I said, I don't know if that, to the regular fan, maybe he was just overshadowed by a shitty season overall. Maybe he wasn't given the opportunity to perform the way he did last season. I just don't think that he will go in the first two rounds regardless. I think he is a pretty good player, and will be a good value in the 3rd or 4th round.

The NFL really only cares about physical talent they can measure, which accounts for the guys you never heard of from St. Mary's School for the Blind in the NFL. A great season will get a guy more attention for sure, but if you can play, and just happen to be on a shitty team, they'll figure that out too. The only way I think he goes in the first 2 rounds is if he really impresses at the combine, and a couple of other DE's that fit the 3-4 OLB template go ahead of him early. Probably right though, good 3rd or 4th round value, and a good decision on his part if he goes there, and makes a playing roster.

The Prowler · « **Reply #12 on:** January 01, 2013, 12:39:30 AM »

He'll go bottom 2nd round - mid 3rd round. It'll depend on how well he can flip his hips in coverage, because like it was said previously he'll more than likely be a LB. If he works on his coverage skills, increases his 40 time and shows out at the combine, he'll definitely shoot up the draft boards.

AUownsU · « **Reply #13 on:** January 01, 2013, 12:47:35 AM »

Like JR said no suprise really considering how high many project him to go. Will he actually be drafted that high? Who knows. Shame he didn't want to hang around and try to right the ship but it is what is.

JR4AU · « **Reply #14 on:** January 01, 2013, 08:08:13 AM »

According to Scout.com, Barkevious Mingo is the 2nd rated DE, and 6th overall in the Draft, while Lemonier is the 7th DE and 24th overall.

2012 Mingo: 6-5, 240, 33 Tkls, 4 Sacks, 4.61 40 Yd Dash.

2012 Lemonier: 6-4, 242, 28 Tkls, 5.5 Sacks, 4.78 40 Yd Dash

Mingo had a huge dropoff in production this year from last, just like Lemonier. Why? Guessing, that at least a little was due to teams paying more attention to them, and scheming to slow them down. Lemonier was the only thing like a defensive threat we had this year. He had 5 sacks in the first 4 games, and his disappearance coincided with the falling apart of the entire team after the LSU game. Mingo had Montgomery on the other end of the line. The difference in Mingo and Lemonier? An inch in Ht. and a significantly better 40 time. Those numbers are on ESPN.com, and the combine will tell the truth on those things. Also, like Prowler said, his cover skills, how well he can turn his hips, run and change direction will be a big deal. A guy like Lemonier could really shoot up, or drop off in the draft based on his combine, because he projects more as a 3-4 OLB, and has not had a chance to show some 3-4 OLB skills needed at the college level while playing in a 4-3 scheme. He may or may not have them. Or he could go as a 3rd down specialist to a 4 man line team. I think he's a tad light to play every down in a 4-3 system.

I hope he does well.

jmar · « **Reply #15 on:** January 01, 2013, 09:32:15 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 01, 2013, 08:08:13 AM

I hope he does well.

So do I.
Teams chose to run at him as LSU did against Clowney. And it could be that Van Gorder had to curb some of that aggressiveness so as not to get burned overall as a unit.
There's probably not a better time for Lemonier to go pro.

RWS · « **Reply #16 on:** January 01, 2013, 09:42:26 AM »

Quote from: jmar on January 01, 2013, 09:32:15 AM

There's probably not a better time for Lemonier to go pro.

Meh....

I would have liked to have seen him in Ellis' system with Gardner as the DL coach. Except against Alabama. I really think he would have flourished under those two coaches. As much opportunity as there would be to raise his draft stock, I suppose there is equal chance he wouldn't grasp the system or something like that.

GH2001 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 01, 2013, 11:16:49 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on December 31, 2012, 08:19:18 PM

Y'all hoping he fails?

No, just seen this song play out before.

JR4AU · « **Reply #18 on:** January 01, 2013, 11:29:55 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 01, 2013, 11:16:49 AM

No, just seen this song play out before.

Yeah, I've seen it play out both ways.

jmar · « **Reply #19 on:** January 01, 2013, 12:00:44 PM »

I'm hoping the new staff will have a different mindset about what constitutes a prototypical (SEC) LB and DE. I'm not sure how it started but Auburn at least in the past recruited LBs in the 225# range and under and it was like this unwritten rule that any defensive athlete over 240 was considered more of an end.
I'm also not going to get into the whole three man-four man front or stand-up, hand in the grass thing but Auburn has had a number of drafted pass rushing ends that did not have the skills that translated into a long term NFL career as a LB due mainly to the lack of cover skills.