Bad move Texas?

[CCTAU]

I know this was done in jest, but what if a lot of New Yorkers decide to take him up? The one thing I have found about yankees, is that they don't like where they came from, but they want their new home to be just like their old one. DUMBASSES.

We here in the south need to concentrate on inviting the yankee gun businesses to the south. We'll build them without restrictions and with the same pride. Probably more pride as most of the workers will definitely buy their own product.

Y'all come to Texas, state official tells New York gun owners
By Jim Forsyth | Reuters – 17 hrs ago

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SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has a message for New York gun owners: Come to Texas, and bring your guns with you.

"Texas is better than New York, and New York just gave us another excuse to say that," Abbott, a Republican, said on Thursday, after ads extolling Texas appeared on several media websites.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, signed sweeping gun-control legislation earlier this week expanding the state's ban on assault weapons and putting limits on ammunition capacity in the wake of last month's school shootings in Connecticut.

Abbott, a possible candidate for governor of Texas in next year's election, used campaign money to buy ads on websites of news organizations in New York City and Albany.

One ad says in classic Western script: "WANTED: Law abiding New York gun owners seeking lower taxes and greater opportunities."

Clicking on the ad leads to a Facebook page touting the virtues of Texas, including the fact that the state has no income tax so "you'll be able to keep more of what you earn and use that extra money to buy more ammo."

Abbott told Reuters the ads are a "way to tweak our liberal friends up in the Northeast."

"It is tongue in cheek, but there is a deeper message here," he said. "Texas really does stand as the last bastion of ultimate freedom in this country. Over the last decade, more than 4 million people moved to this state, and one reason is freedom and one reason is economic opportunity."

Abbott has said he will file a federal lawsuit to throw out any nationwide gun restrictions implemented by Congress.

A Cuomo spokesman did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment.

http://news.yahoo.com/yall-come-texas-state-official-tells-york-gun-223149333.html

[Tiger Wench]

Abbot is positioning himself to run for Governor against the current occupant.  He is a good friend of my boss, and a great guy - but yeah, inviting more fucking yankees - and Nu YAWK Yankees at that - to move to Texas?  Um, not sure.

On the other hand, they would all wind up in Dallas anyway with the other yankee transplants.  Not a lot of that carpetbagger stuff down here in H-town, thank the Lord.

[dallaswareagle]

Abbot is positioning himself to run for Governor against the current occupant.  He is a good friend of my boss, and a great guy - but yeah, inviting more fucking yankees - and Nu YAWK Yankees at that - to move to Texas?  Um, not sure.

On the other hand, they would all wind up in Dallas anyway with the other yankee transplants.  Not a lot of that carpetbagger stuff down here in H-town, thank the Lord.

Some would move to Houston looking for Bud and Sissy. 

[Snaggletiger]

Some would move to Houston looking for Bud and Sissy.

Got myself a real cowboy

[GH2001]

"Texas really does stand as the last bastion of ultimate freedom in this country"

Lulz do wut?

They aren't even an open carry state.

Anywho, let em reap what they sow. Their three biggest cities are majority carpet baggers already anyway.

[dallaswareagle]

Got myself a real cowboy

What happen to your face?       got hit.

[Tarheel]

Lulz do wut?

They aren't even an open carry state.

Anywho, let em reap what they sow. Their three biggest cities are majority carpet baggers already anyway.

I did not know that; I'm genuinely surprised.

[GH2001]

I did not know that; I'm genuinely surprised.

As the Dallas mayor is all in with obamas gun control agenda:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/columnists/todd-j-gillman/20130118-dallas-mayor-rawlings-says-he-s-all-in-on-obama-s-gun-control-agenda.ece

In re to open carry:
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/46.02.00.html


Maybe I shouldn't read so much.

[Tarheel]

As the Dallas mayor is all in with obamas gun control agenda:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/columnists/todd-j-gillman/20130118-dallas-mayor-rawlings-says-he-s-all-in-on-obama-s-gun-control-agenda.ece

In re to open carry:
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/46.02.00.html


Maybe I shouldn't read so much.

Thanks for the info.  I'm genuinely surprised that my own native, Obama-voting state of NC is more permissive of open carry than Texas.  I'd never really investigated into it until now quite frankly even after having lived in Texas a little over 10 years ago.  And Tennessee apparently has licensed open carry similar to Georgia (and no income tax and fewer toll roads) making it look a lot more like a "bastion of freedom" than Texas (no offense Tiger Wench!).

Uruguay is sounding interesting too...wonder how many toll roads they have there...

[GH2001]

Thanks for the info.  I'm genuinely surprised that my own native, Obama-voting state of NC is more permissive of open carry than Texas.  I'd never really investigated into it until now quite frankly even after having lived in Texas a little over 10 years ago.  And Tennessee apparently has licensed open carry similar to Georgia (and no income tax and fewer toll roads) making it look a lot more like a "bastion of freedom" than Texas (no offense Tiger Wench!).

Uruguay is sounding interesting too...wonder how many toll roads they have there...

In most studies by people like heritage foundation and Gallup always list Mississippi, Idaho, Alabama, Wyoming, Utah, South Dak, North Dakota and S Car as the most conservative states. While DC is the most liberal area with an electoral vote. Although Texas does lean right, it's just not the cowboy gunslinging utopia that the propaganda claims it is. I do like how company friendly they are.

Combine the toll road issue with the lack of open carry and it looks a little foolish to a do a lot of bragging on endless liberty. Like the AG was doing.

[Tiger Wench]

Q: Can I carry a firearm on my person?

A: Yes, with proper licensing (Concealed Handgun License) you may carry a pistol or revolver on your person so long as it remains concealed. Long guns (rifles / shotguns) do not have to be concealed, but must be carried in a manner not calculated to cause alarm, and do not require a license.

Q: Can I strap a gun on my hip in Texas?

A: No, with some exceptions. Open carry is not legal in Texas, but you may open carry on your own property, in the commission of a sporting activity (competition, shooting ranges, etc.), and while engaged in hunting.

Q: Can I carry a firearm in my vehicle?

A: Yes. With the passage of the Motorist Protection Act you may now readibly carry handguns, loaded and within reach, so long as you conceal the firearm. Long guns (rifles / shotguns) do not have to be concealed and may be loaded and within reach.

Why do y'all think it is such a big infringement on your rights that you cannot have a handgun in plain view?  I don't see that as a problem.  Most people I know here that carry prefer to carry concealed.  Seems to me that the law covers every instance where you would want to carry openly.

[dallaswareagle]

Why do y'all think it is such a big infringement on your rights that you cannot have a handgun in plain view?  I don't see that as a problem.  Most people I know here that carry prefer to carry concealed.  Seems to me that the law covers every instance where you would want to carry openly.

You try and steal something from me on my property, you will get shot. No jury in Texas would convit me.

CHL=you don't know whos armed. I really don't think you will ever here of (currently) of some dipfuck trying to shoot up a place here.

[Saniflush]

Why do y'all think it is such a big infringement on your rights that you cannot have a handgun in plain view?  I don't see that as a problem.  Most people I know here that carry prefer to carry concealed.  Seems to me that the law covers every instance where you would want to carry openly.

I would actually prefer to carry openly.

BROWNCOATS UNITE!

[Tiger Wench]

I would actually prefer to carry openly.

BROWNCOATS UNITE!

Y'know, your coat is kinda a brownish color.

Mal's browncoat duster covers his gun unless it is going to be needed.  So for the most part he carries concealed.  But that was after Earth That Was.  So the normal rules are out the window.

I know that there are always different preferences - but I kind of go along with the "Wanna take a chance on how many concealed guns there are in this place?" school of thought.  Seems to me that the guy who gets shot first is the guy carrying openly - remove the obvious threat, no?

[Saniflush]

Y'know, your coat is kinda a brownish color.

Mal's browncoat duster covers his gun unless it is going to be needed.  So for the most part he carries concealed.  But that was after Earth That Was.  So the normal rules are out the window.

I know that there are always different preferences - but I kind of go along with the "Wanna take a chance on how many concealed guns there are in this place?" school of thought.  Seems to me that the guy who gets shot first is the guy carrying openly - remove the obvious threat, no?

Well sure but follow that same train of thought....if everyone is carrying openly then who do you shoot first?

[Tiger Wench]

Well sure but follow that same train of thought....if everyone is carrying openly then who do you shoot first?

Based on purely unscientific questioning of like minded folks, the majority prefer concealed.  I just can't imagine people walking around openly strapped - so you would stick out like a sore thumb. Kind of one of those "Well, not enough people are doing it to provide the 'too many targets' theory of protection".

Even in states where open carry is permitted, they are struggling to get people to do so - one state (Indiana maybe?) had an "Open Carry Day" to try and get people to go around for a whole day with a visible weapon, just because they could but no one does.  They were trying to destigmatize the general public to the idea - but they have not been too successful. 

Again, I have no problem with either way, but my own preference is concealed.  With your skills, you would be the guy I would want to be the invisible threat - while the bad guy is shooting at the pudgy wannabe weekend warrior with an openly displayed gun he has  fired exactly twice since qualifying, you would be able to take care of business.

EDIT:  I am going to posit this question over on the MHI FB page and see what that group of like minded folks think.  Should be an interesting discussion.

[Saniflush]

Based on purely unscientific questioning of like minded folks, the majority prefer concealed.  I just can't imagine people walking around openly strapped - so you would stick out like a sore thumb. Kind of one of those "Well, not enough people are doing it to provide the 'too many targets' theory of protection".

Even in states where open carry is permitted, they are struggling to get people to do so - one state (Indiana maybe?) had an "Open Carry Day" to try and get people to go around for a whole day with a visible weapon, just because they could but no one does.  They were trying to destigmatize the general public to the idea - but they have not been too successful. 

Again, I have no problem with either way, but my own preference is concealed.  With your skills, you would be the guy I would want to be the invisible threat - while the bad guy is shooting at the pudgy wannabe weekend warrior with an openly displayed gun he has  fired exactly twice since qualifying, you would be able to take care of business.

EDIT:  I am going to posit this question over on the MHI FB page and see what that group of like minded folks think.  Should be an interesting discussion.

Well this is the thing.  The intent is to never have to pull it with the understanding that if you do motherfuckers are gonna have die. 

Most people do not want to fuck with people they KNOW have a gun.  They are gonna hedge their bets and go for the ones who may not. 

That's my take on it anyway.  Hell I don't really care either way.  If I get mine out it is going off.

Now flipping it around I would certainly go for the ones that I knew had guns but people like me aren't going to be going batshit crazy with a gun anyway.  I'm the motherfucker you want to have one.  I have put much thought into consequences and repercussions of using deadly force.  I'm ok with it and can accept whatever happens. 

[Tarheel]

Well this is the thing.  The intent is to never have to pull it with the understanding that if you do motherfuckers are gonna have die. 

Most people do not want to fuck with people they KNOW have a gun.  They are gonna hedge their bets and go for the ones who may not. 

That's my take on it anyway.  Hell I don't really care either way. If I get mine out it is going off.

Now flipping it around I would certainly go for the ones that I knew had guns but people like me aren't going to be going batshit crazy with a gun anyway.  I'm the motherfucker you want to have one.  I have put much thought into consequences and repercussions of using deadly force.  I'm ok with it and can accept whatever happens.

Reminds me of the days of the Cold War Deterrence policy; which is why I do like Open Carry (not that I have anything against concealed either).

[DnATL]

Too lazy to find it on yootoobs, but this reminds me of the guy interviewing Eastwood after his gunfight with Hackman in Unforgiven, asking him about the logic he used in his order of offing Hackman et al