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[AU_Tiger_2000]

So it doesn't bother you that the guy calling the plays is a 29 year old who has never held a position of any kind (outside of GA) at the D-1 level?

If experience was all that important we'd still be waiting for someone to walk on the moon.

[JR4AU]

If experience was all that important we'd still be waiting for someone to walk on the moon.

Well, I'm not saying experience isn't important, but it's not like he has none either.  He played in the offense in HS for Gus, and has been with Gus for much of Gus' college career. 

[AUownsU]

If experience was all that important we'd still be waiting for someone to walk on the moon.

Yea and I bet you rocked it like a porn star the first time you got laid. Sometimes a little experience helps.

Pat Sullivan hired him as OC at Samford in 2011, and then Gus took him to Ark. St. last year as OC.  He knows the offense, and what Gus wants to do.

I can buy that. Maybe. I just have some reservations about this hire knowing offensive production is going to be the driving force behind this team.

[JR4AU]

I can buy that. Maybe. I just have some reservations about this hire knowing offensive production is going to be the driving force behind this team.

Id worry more about how long it's going to take Gus and Co.whip these players in to shape, and finding/making a serviceable QB than I would about "play calling".

Play calling, for the most part, is done on Sunday and Monday in the meeting rooms.  Malzahn has very few plays, lots of formations.   The way they practice, on saturday, everybody pretty much knows what plays will be called based on situation and field position.  They keep things looking different on film by changing formations and motions, but running the same plays, which keeps it easy on the OL, and helps them go fast.

[AUChizad]

I can buy that. Maybe. I just have some reservations about this hire knowing offensive production is going to be the driving force behind this team.

Honestly, I'd be much more concerned if we got some kind of rock star OC.

Gus is gonna Gus. He will own the offense. If some other OC with his own philosophy and his own proven system were to come in, and Gus meddled, it would not end well.

[JR4AU]

Honestly, I'd be much more conserved if we got some kind of rock star OC.

Gus is gonna Gus. He will own the offense. If some other OC with his own philosophy and his own proven system were to come in, and Gus meddled, it would not end well.

Exactly.  He's going to let Lash run the offense, but it's still Gus' offense, just being run by someone he knows will do it the way he wants it run. 

[AU_Tiger_2000]

Yea and I bet you rocked it like a porn star the first time you got laid. Sometimes a little experience helps.

Your mom said it was the best 30 seconds of her life.

[AUownsU]

Honestly, I'd be much more conserved if we got some kind of rock star OC.

Gus is gonna Gus. He will own the offense. If some other OC with his own philosophy and his own proven system were to come in, and Gus meddled, it would not end well.

Thats kinda what I was wanting to hear.

Id worry more about how long it's going to take Gus and Co.whip these players in to shape, and finding/making a serviceable QB than I would about "play calling".

Play calling, for the most part, is done on Sunday and Monday in the meeting rooms.  Malzahn has very few plays, lots of formations.   The way they practice, on saturday, everybody pretty much knows what plays will be called based on situation and field position.  They keep things looking different on film by changing formations and motions, but running the same plays, which keeps it easy on the OL, and helps them go fast.

For some reason though, I'm not worried about player motivation as much. These guys made fools of themselves on the field last season and if they don't have the drive within themselves to prove they aren't a bunch of suckass players, then we are gonna be in trouble eitherway.

Btw, the idea of a high tempo offense that runs a few plays and lots of formations scares the shit out of me and this is why. When an offense's success is predicated mainly on tempo, what gonna happen when they fail to get first downs and maintain that tempo? Answer: Auburn's defense will be the ones worn out, not the opponents. Thats why I kinda skeptical about letting Lashlee call plays. Our defense is already gonna be behind the proverbial 8-ball by not having an offense that can control the clock. Play calling is and keeping those chains moving are paramount, imo.

[AUownsU]

Your mom said it was the best 30 seconds of her life.

Damn man. Thats gonna leave a mark...

[JR4AU]

Thats kinda what I was wanting to hear.
For some reason though, I'm not worried about player motivation as much. These guys made fools of themselves on the field last season and if they don't have the drive within themselves to prove they aren't a bunch of suckass players, then we are gonna be in trouble eitherway.

Btw, the idea of a high tempo offense that runs a few plays and lots of formations scares the shit out of me and this is why. When an offense's success is predicated mainly on tempo, what gonna happen when they fail to get first downs and maintain that tempo? Answer: Auburn's defense will be the ones worn out, not the opponents. Thats why I kinda skeptical about letting Lashlee call plays. Our defense is already gonna be behind the proverbial 8-ball by not having an offense that can control the clock. Play calling is and keeping those chains moving are paramount, imo.

The new high tempo era is all about tempo, not plays.  You can't have a great number of plays and go fast.  Gus will have 4 base runs, and 6 base passes.  Add formations, and tags, window dressing here and there, and it's his offense.  Like it or hate it, it's the direction we've chosen to go with Gus.  Was not my first choice either as I share your concerns on defense, but it's where we've gone.

[AU_Tiger_2000]

Damn man. Thats gonna leave a mark...

Yeah it looked something like that, it was my first time and I was confused.  But your mom was definitely making the face that bull is making.

[djsimp]

But your mom was definitely making the face that bull is making.

Thats not his mom?!

[The Six]

This thread

[wesfau2]

Yeah it looked something like that, it was my first time and I was confused.  But your mom was definitely making the face that bull is making.

Trebek: What is the sound a doggy makes?

Connery: Moooooooo

Trebek: I'm sorry, that's incorrect.

Connery: Well, that's the sound your mother made last night!

[The Six]

Look! It's Clint Moseley

[CCTAU]

The new high tempo era is all about tempo, not plays.  You can't have a great number of plays and go fast.  Gus will have 4 base runs, and 6 base passes.  Add formations, and tags, window dressing here and there, and it's his offense.  Like it or hate it, it's the direction we've chosen to go with Gus.  Was not my first choice either as I share your concerns on defense, but it's where we've gone.

But there will also be plays added specifically for certain opponents. But these will not be run over and over and over like the main plays. Gus understands that you have to attack specific weaknesses of a defense like that.

The only thing that bothered me about Gus' offense was he spent most of the first half "probing" the other team's defense.  All the while, the other team's offense was scoring!

[AUownsU]

The new high tempo era is all about tempo, not plays.  You can't have a great number of plays and go fast.  Gus will have 4 base runs, and 6 base passes.  Add formations, and tags, window dressing here and there, and it's his offense.  Like it or hate it, it's the direction we've chosen to go with Gus.  Was not my first choice either as I share your concerns on defense, but it's where we've gone.

Nice job in breaking it down JR. And don't get me wrong, I'll be one of Gus' biggest sunshine pumpers by the time the season gets here. However, I'm just having a hard time buying into it right now. I know several folks who did nothing but bitch about all the bubble screens and speed sweeps the last time Gus was here. Now they are spraying sunshine over every move he makes. Please note I'm not refering to anyone on this board. Just some random observations I've made from other boards and such.

[JR4AU]

But there will also be plays added specifically for certain opponents. But these will not be run over and over and over like the main plays. Gus understands that you have to attack specific weaknesses of a defense like that.

The only thing that bothered me about Gus' offense was he spent most of the first half "probing" the other team's defense.  All the while, the other team's offense was scoring!

Sure, they'll always have little wrinkles each week.  More in the form of window dressing, than actual 'new plays'.  But sometimes. 

Gus is, from the start, a Wing T guy.  He says "we do this until you stop it, then, we have one answer for the adjustment."  Schematically it really is very simple, and why it broke down when Chiz tried to put the brakes on him.  Way too predictable, and only works at this level when the defense has no time to think, and adjust, and make subs. 

He also has a specific philosophy that he's going to run 4 trick plays or reverses a game, and take at least 8 shots down the field in the passing game per game.     

[JR4AU]

Nice job in breaking it down JR. And don't get me wrong, I'll be one of Gus' biggest sunshine pumpers by the time the season gets here. However, I'm just having a hard time buying into it right now. I know several folks who did nothing but bitch about all the bubble screens and speed sweeps the last time Gus was here. Now they are spraying sunshine over every move he makes. Please note I'm not refering to anyone on this board. Just some random observations I've made from other boards and such.

Getting behind the coach.   As I said I wasn't in favor of him coming back either, and I'm a big fan of him, and his offense.  Just don't think with the current state of things in the SECW that this is the way to get to the mountain top.  I think we'll win, but not a championship.  I'm an offense guy, but defense wins championship.  2010 was an exception, not the rule.  Even then defense was what won the title game. 

[djsimp]

Sure, they'll always have little wrinkles each week.  More in the form of window dressing, than actual 'new plays'.  But sometimes. 

Gus is, from the start, a Wing T guy.  He says "we do this until you stop it, then, we have one answer for the adjustment."  Schematically it really is very simple, and why it broke down when Chiz tried to put the brakes on him.  Way too predictable, and only works at this level when the defense has no time to think, and adjust, and make subs. 

He also has a specific philosophy that he's going to run 4 trick plays or reverses a game, and take at least 8 shots down the field in the passing game per game.   

Its like the guy has taken the offensive playbook and added in the quadratic equation.