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And the end is drawing near.....

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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2012, 07:09:35 PM »
Who would want a team (defense) to get progressively worst year end and year out?  I don't think even Div III would take that???????

He's always had a good reputation as a DC until he became a HC.  And you know how football is.  Friends hire friends, and coaches get recycled all the time.  Hell, Roof got 2 d1 jobs after leaving Auburn. 
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2012, 07:18:12 PM »
He's always had a good reputation as a DC until he became a HC.  And you know how football is.  Friends hire friends, and coaches get recycled all the time.  Hell, Roof got 2 d1 jobs after leaving Auburn.

See your point, but folks don't like have many friends when it comes to someone fucking there shit up and taking money away from them.  He may get another job (I don't think even D1) but it won't be until 2014 season. They guy has proven (This year) that he is not a winner. And without a kick-ass staff he is at best a low level coach. He is more the 5-19 coach than the 14-0. 
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2012, 07:42:52 PM »
Hell, he doesn't have to work another day in his life. Maybe he'll write another book or something. Who knows? I just know he isn't hurting for money and hasn't banged a coed.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2012, 07:58:20 PM »
See your point, but folks don't like have many friends when it comes to someone fucking there shit up and taking money away from them.  He may get another job (I don't think even D1) but it won't be until 2014 season. They guy has proven (This year) that he is not a winner. And without a kick-ass staff he is at best a low level coach. He is more the 5-19 coach than the 14-0.

HC and DC two different jobs.  I don't think he'll ever be a D1 HC again.  Agree, he'll probably lay out a year, and nobody will even have him as an analyst.  Then he'll get a DC job somewhere in the Big whatever, or Pac something or nother, or maybe at a directional or WAC or Mtn West School.  Or maybe goes the Mike Dubose route and goes to a lower level D2 or D3 school.  I can't hate the man personally.  I fucking despise what he's done as a coach this year, but he's by all accounts a class guy.  I just got an email from Auburn Athletics that is Gene's farewell letter, and it's nothing but class.   He walks in to some D2 AD's office that needs a HC, he flashes two NC rings from the BCS that will get their attention, along with his character.  They'll ask him what happened in 2012, and he'll tell them how meddlesome PTB forced him to change schemes to match up with bammer, when he didn't have the kids to do it, and he had to hire some no name OC, and somebody will buy that shit, and hire him.  Mike Dubose got a DIII HC job, and is now back coaching DL at Memphis.  Larry Coker is a HC in the WAC.   

Chiz is gone.  Time to move on and look to the future.  I wish him no ill will.  Couple of things that I can find good in this.  Obviously, a BCS NC, no matter who is responsible for it, we got it, and the cupboard is NOT bare...the right coach can come in and and turn it around quickly.   
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2012, 08:13:12 PM »
HC and DC two different jobs.  I don't think he'll ever be a D1 HC again.  Agree, he'll probably lay out a year, and nobody will even have him as an analyst.  Then he'll get a DC job somewhere in the Big whatever, or Pac something or nother, or maybe at a directional or WAC or Mtn West School.  Or maybe goes the Mike Dubose route and goes to a lower level D2 or D3 school.  I can't hate the man personally.  I fucking despise what he's done as a coach this year, but he's by all accounts a class guy.  I just got an email from Auburn Athletics that is Gene's farewell letter, and it's nothing but class.   He walks in to some D2 AD's office that needs a HC, he flashes two NC rings from the BCS that will get their attention, along with his character.  They'll ask him what happened in 2012, and he'll tell them how meddlesome PTB forced him to change schemes to match up with bammer, when he didn't have the kids to do it, and he had to hire some no name OC, and somebody will buy that shit, and hire him.  Mike Dubose got a DIII HC job, and is now back coaching DL at Memphis.  Larry Coker is a HC in the WAC.   

Chiz is gone.  Time to move on and look to the future.  I wish him no ill will.  Couple of things that I can find good in this.  Obviously, a BCS NC, no matter who is responsible for it, we got it, and the cupboard is NOT bare...the right coach can come in and and turn it around quickly.   

I would agree with this if he would come out and say why we are 3-9 instead of coach speak. I would give him more credit if he would also say I did not earn my pay this year and will forfit it.

Neither will happen I know this. 

The right coach can come in and turn this around quick. The talent is there.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2012, 08:16:59 PM »
Has Yox been retained?
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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2012, 08:20:58 PM »
Has Yox been retained?

The news reported today said "JJ fired the entire staff following Chiz's firing".  I assume he's "staff".
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2012, 08:23:47 PM »
Has Yox been retained?

I would think that all coaches situation are fluid.  A more lower level guy is going to keep more high profile coaches who can help him transition. I wonder if BVG will even interview for the job??????????  Was it his defense that was so fuck up or GC defense that he made BVG run and forced him to start that weak ass shit Jake???? I'd like to think not.   
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2012, 08:24:16 PM »
I would agree with this if he would come out and say why we are 3-9 instead of coach speak. I would give him more credit if he would also say I did not earn my pay this year and will forfit it.

Neither will happen I know this. 

The right coach can come in and turn this around quick. The talent is there.

If he knew why we were 3-9, we probably wouldn't be 3-9.  I'm not going to blame a guy in this business for taking his contract money either. 

I'm praying they get the hire right. 
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2012, 08:27:47 PM »
I would think that all coaches situation are fluid.  A more lower level guy is going to keep more high profile coaches who can help him transition. I wonder if BVG will even interview for the job??????????  Was it his defense that was so fuck up or GC defense that he made BVG run and forced him to start that weak ass shit Jake???? I'd like to think not.   

This season was not a product of Xs and Os.  It's a product of the soft, undisciplined culture created in the off season, and on the practice field the last 4 years as Tubs players transitioned out, and Chiz's in. 

I'd be ok with BVG staying on, he's probably not been corrupted, and it seemed he recognized the problems.  The rest?  No fucking way, all need to get the fuck out. 
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2012, 08:44:09 PM »
HC and DC two different jobs.  I don't think he'll ever be a D1 HC again.  Agree, he'll probably lay out a year, and nobody will even have him as an analyst.  Then he'll get a DC job somewhere in the Big whatever, or Pac something or nother, or maybe at a directional or WAC or Mtn West School.  Or maybe goes the Mike Dubose route and goes to a lower level D2 or D3 school.  I can't hate the man personally.  I fucking despise what he's done as a coach this year, but he's by all accounts a class guy.  I just got an email from Auburn Athletics that is Gene's farewell letter, and it's nothing but class.   
They wouldn't hire him as analyst because he would withhold his commentary until after he had a chance to see the replay

Seriously, he's a good guy that just promoted up to his level of incompetence.  Happens all the time.  I could see him being a lifer at DC.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2012, 08:47:51 PM »
This season was not a product of Xs and Os.  It's a product of the soft, undisciplined culture created in the off season, and on the practice field the last 4 years as Tubs players transitioned out, and Chiz's in. 

I'd be ok with BVG staying on, he's probably not been corrupted, and it seemed he recognized the problems.  The rest?  No fucking way, all need to get the fuck out.
I wouldn't mine seeing Boulware stay myself. Clark struggled this year but our kickers have been money since he was hired.

Has Yox been retained?

Dont know for sure but I read JJ gave all the coaches the opportunity to hang around and apply with the new guy since they were already on the payroll. Seems like I read that Trooper is the only one that didn't clear out. Only RUMOR I've seen so far about coaches staying so TIFWIW.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2012, 09:06:49 PM »
They wouldn't hire him as analyst because he would withhold his commentary until after he had a chance to see the replay

Seriously, he's a good guy that just promoted up to his level of incompetence.  Happens all the time.  I could see him being a lifer at DC.

As long as he's either not the guy in charge of discipline, and just does Xs and Os, or he's a HC at a program where the kids are the academic types that won't run wild, he'd be ok. 
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2012, 09:26:07 PM »
As long as he's either not the guy in charge of discipline, and just does Xs and Os, or he's a HC at a program where the kids are the academic types that won't run wild, he'd be ok.
That settles it. New Rumor. Chiz goes to Wake Forest as DC and Asst. Head Coach.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2012, 10:54:17 PM »
The news reported today said "JJ fired the entire staff following Chiz's firing".  I assume he's "staff".

He's a coach but not on the "fb coaching staff". I know, semantics. I hate to see Yox leave.

Btw, I think gogue and the ptb pretty much told JJ to clean house to keep his job for time being. I also think he's simply a figure head at this point. Wouldn't be shocked to see him go too eventually.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2012, 11:29:34 PM »
He's a coach but not on the "fb coaching staff". I know, semantics. I hate to see Yox leave.

Btw, I think gogue and the ptb pretty much told JJ to clean house to keep his job for time being. I also think he's simply a figure head at this point. Wouldn't be shocked to see him go too eventually.

Moreover, I think Gouge hoped JJ would stand up to him so he could fire him too, but he scurried off to fire everyone to save his own ass.   Which makes Gouge a shitty boss and JJ a pussy.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2012, 02:51:56 AM »
I have a lot of respect for Trooper staying and continuing to recruit. That could save our recruiting class.
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2012, 08:35:27 AM »
I have a lot of respect for Trooper staying and continuing to recruit. That could save our recruiting class.

I thought he was pulled off the cruiten trail?
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Re: And the end is drawing near.....
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2012, 08:39:34 AM »
I thought he was pulled off the cruiten trail?

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