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« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2012, 11:30:23 AM »
I'm open to discussion on the point.  Here is my list:

Patterson


Petrino



Malzahn.

Discussion:

Patterson:  Would have no problem whatsoever with him.  Can't sit here and tell you I know exactly what "schemes" he runs on either side of the ball.  I see a Horney Toad game about once every 2 years.  But, his success speaks for itslef. 

Petrino:  My only reservation with Bobby MF Petrino is what GF alluded to.....the initial media shit storm that would rain down on us.  I'd like to say "Screw that" but that ain't the case.  We get butt-hurt right here on the X if Scabinskee writes something negative.  However, if he were to come here and win, all that goes away and the world is unicorns and orange/blue rainbows again.

Malzahn:  Not yet.  I've never been a huge fan of promoting assistants to HC positions at major D1 programs.  Yes, I know there's a ton of success stories but I just want to see a body of work where the guy has been in charge of the entire program before I turn the reins over to him.  Malzahn is in his first year at the helm and I'd really like to see how he handles it before he's considered.
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« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2012, 11:35:22 AM »
Patterson

Strong

Rhoades


I would have no issues with any of the three. 


If we hire BMFP, then we (the total AD) has to take a "we don't give a fuck what you think" approach to the media and then fans.  We would have to embrace what the media already perceives us to be.  That we are a truly a bunch of thugs and we would have to not care.  I just don't see us doing that.  I am not totally opposed to hiring him, but he isn't on my short list of candidates either.
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« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2012, 11:57:25 AM »
I would really like Charlie Strong, he has done a good job of rebuilding Louisville. He is a defensive coach who has succeed everywhere he has been.  He seems to have a hard nosed attitude and approach (which I think we need). He was on my wish list when we hired Chizik, but at that time was a coordinator.  From what I have heard he is a very good recruiter.

I think if we weren't to go after him, he ends up at either Arkansas or UT after this year.
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« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2012, 12:40:59 PM »
I would really like Charlie Strong, he has done a good job of rebuilding Louisville. He is a defensive coach who has succeed everywhere he has been.  He seems to have a hard nosed attitude and approach (which I think we need). He was on my wish list when we hired Chizik, but at that time was a coordinator.  From what I have heard he is a very good recruiter.

I think if we weren't to go after him, he ends up at either Arkansas or UT after this year.

If you call him well-spoken or articulate, I'm gonna' donkey punch you in the jimmies.
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« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2012, 12:47:59 PM »
Dude not only fucked that girl but his whole team, they suck with out him and that is the main problem I have with him. He cares for one thing Petrino. 

This is pretty much how I feel. He has shown this character as far back as I can remember.
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2012, 12:54:21 PM »
If you call him well-spoken or articulate, I'm gonna' donkey punch you in the jimmies.
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2012, 01:01:37 PM »


Orbit + 3 pigs - birffin' a baby

Bow + Man in a box/window/hollering

Pear + tickle (Particle?)

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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2012, 01:03:15 PM »
Bobby Petrino, some numbers and facts, aside from the off the field matters. 

Never beat Alabama. 

2008: 2-3 vs ranked teams.  The 2 wins vs Tulsa, and Auburn.  Lost 52-10 to #7 TX.  Scoring Def. Rank: 92  Recruiting Ranking 36th.

2009: 1-4 vs ranked teams.  Lost 35-7 to #3 Bammer. Def. Rank: 58  Recruiting Ranking: 16th (with 31 in the class)

2010:3-3 vs ranked teams. Lost 65-43 to #12 Auburn. Def.Rank: 47, Recruiting Ranking: 49th

2011: 4-2 vs ranked teams.  Lost 38-14 to #3 Bammer, and 41-17 to #1 LSU, Def. Rank: 33, Recruiting Ranking: 24th

2012: Recruiting Ranking 34th.

Ark. scheduled 3 patsies a season.  Against the highest level of competition (top 10 teams) he was 2-7, and frequently was blown out.  Had at least one loss in each season by 21+.  By comparison, Houston Nutt's recruiting classes were consistently ranked 25-30, so he didn't even recruit as well as Nutt. 

Tidbits from Lousville: Lost 37-7 to an unranked Memphis, and was blown out 49-28 by #14 Miami of Ohio in his first year, and finished the season with the #72 Defense.  In his second season, went 11-1, lost 41-38 to #3 Miami.  Gave up 27+ points 5 games, including 49 to an unranked Memphis team, Def. ranked 24th.  Year 3 went 9-3, with a 45-14 loss to unranked South Florida and defense rank 47th.  Year 4, 12-1, #4 L'ville lost at #14 Rutgers 28-25. 

The way I see Petrino?  The offensive minded version of Tommy Tuberville, with a little twist.  Petrino beats just about everybody he should, but rarely gets an upset win, and is frequently blown out by highly ranked teams.  Could he recruit better to Auburn?  Probably, but we all know recruiting can fall off at Auburn if it's not tended to, and he clearly isn't the best recruiter in the world.

So, you Petrino pimps will be happy winning 10, but never getting over the hump, and having to suffer 3 TD losses to highly ranked opponents at least once each year?  Losses where, many times, not only is the defense ass raped, but his high powered offense fails him too?  That's his body of work.  Not talking one year or 2, but 8 years as a HC.  You'll be happy with a guy that doesn't care about defense, and even in winning will frequently be in a shootout? 

Malzahn?   Unproven as a HC, but here's what you'd get.  A guy that I personally heard make the following statement: "When running this offense, you can't be concerned with defensive statistics".  Think back to 2009.  Set offensive records, shittastic defense.  All offenses have off days, or do like we did that season, build quick leads, then stall.  With no defense, we blew several leads that year, and the only way an offensive minded HC can win a championship is to be assured of outscoring any and every body.  Now, it doesn't take Cam Newton to make that offense effective, but it takes Cam Newton to assure you it will never ever break down completely.   Hell, even Tony Franklin will tell you defense wins championships. 

I'm with GF on this and offensive minded HCs.  I love offense, but not at the expense of defense.   And you got some of these guys out there that don't give a shit about defense.  Petrino and Malzahn are 2 such coaches.   

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« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2012, 01:07:22 PM »
Orbit + 3 pigs - birffin' a baby

Bow + Man in a box/window/hollering

Pear + tickle (Particle?)

A deranged deer
Hydrogen + Pigs - P(ea) = Higgs

Bow + General Zod trapped in the phantom ZONE = BoZone = Boson

Pear = tickle = Peartickle = Particle

Higgs Boson Particle

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« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2012, 01:08:13 PM »
So bring Bobby in and give him $1.5 mil to be our offensive coordinator.  Game, set, match.
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« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2012, 01:14:52 PM »
I'm with GF on this and offensive minded HCs.  I love offense, but not at the expense of defense.   And you got some of these guys out there that don't give a shit about defense.  Petrino and Malzahn are 2 such coaches.   
Agree 100% I love offense too, however...

9.6 times out of 10 defense wins championships.  The rest are bong resin and anomalies.
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« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2012, 01:16:27 PM »
So bring Bobby in and give him $1.5 mil to be our offensive coordinator.  Game, set, match.

How much of that will going to the (soon) to be ex-wife?
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« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2012, 01:17:05 PM »
Agree 100% I love offense too, however...

9.6 times out of 10 defense wins championships.  The rest are bong resin and anomalies.

You really think it's as high as 93%?
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« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2012, 01:19:25 PM »
You really think it's as high as 93%?

12/13ths
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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2012, 01:20:13 PM »
You really think it's as high as 93%?
It's science!
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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2012, 01:29:40 PM »
So bring Bobby in and give him $1.5 mil to be our offensive coordinator.  Game, set, match.

Yes.

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« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2012, 01:41:04 PM »
I would really like Charlie Strong, he has done a good job of rebuilding Louisville. He is a defensive coach who has succeed everywhere he has been.  He seems to have a hard nosed attitude and approach (which I think we need). He was on my wish list when we hired Chizik, but at that time was a coordinator.  From what I have heard he is a very good recruiter.

I think if we weren't to go after him, he ends up at either Arkansas or UT after this year.

Considering the school and what he has to recruit against, I think he and his staff are doing a solid job at recruiting.  Not to mention they seem to have that team going in the right direction.

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Re: ESPN's Take
« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2012, 02:00:57 PM »
Bobby Petrino, some numbers and facts, aside from the off the field matters. 

Never beat Alabama. 

2008: 2-3 vs ranked teams.  The 2 wins vs Tulsa, and Auburn.  Lost 52-10 to #7 TX.  Scoring Def. Rank: 92  Recruiting Ranking 36th.

2009: 1-4 vs ranked teams.  Lost 35-7 to #3 Bammer. Def. Rank: 58  Recruiting Ranking: 16th (with 31 in the class)

2010:3-3 vs ranked teams. Lost 65-43 to #12 Auburn. Def.Rank: 47, Recruiting Ranking: 49th

2011: 4-2 vs ranked teams.  Lost 38-14 to #3 Bammer, and 41-17 to #1 LSU, Def. Rank: 33, Recruiting Ranking: 24th

2012: Recruiting Ranking 34th.

Ark. scheduled 3 patsies a season.  Against the highest level of competition (top 10 teams) he was 2-7, and frequently was blown out.  Had at least one loss in each season by 21+.  By comparison, Houston Nutt's recruiting classes were consistently ranked 25-30, so he didn't even recruit as well as Nutt. 

Tidbits from Lousville: Lost 37-7 to an unranked Memphis, and was blown out 49-28 by #14 Miami of Ohio in his first year, and finished the season with the #72 Defense.  In his second season, went 11-1, lost 41-38 to #3 Miami.  Gave up 27+ points 5 games, including 49 to an unranked Memphis team, Def. ranked 24th.  Year 3 went 9-3, with a 45-14 loss to unranked South Florida and defense rank 47th.  Year 4, 12-1, #4 L'ville lost at #14 Rutgers 28-25. 

The way I see Petrino?  The offensive minded version of Tommy Tuberville, with a little twist.  Petrino beats just about everybody he should, but rarely gets an upset win, and is frequently blown out by highly ranked teams.  Could he recruit better to Auburn?  Probably, but we all know recruiting can fall off at Auburn if it's not tended to, and he clearly isn't the best recruiter in the world.

So, you Petrino pimps will be happy winning 10, but never getting over the hump, and having to suffer 3 TD losses to highly ranked opponents at least once each year?  Losses where, many times, not only is the defense ass raped, but his high powered offense fails him too?  That's his body of work.  Not talking one year or 2, but 8 years as a HC.  You'll be happy with a guy that doesn't care about defense, and even in winning will frequently be in a shootout? 

Malzahn?   Unproven as a HC, but here's what you'd get.  A guy that I personally heard make the following statement: "When running this offense, you can't be concerned with defensive statistics".  Think back to 2009.  Set offensive records, shittastic defense.  All offenses have off days, or do like we did that season, build quick leads, then stall.  With no defense, we blew several leads that year, and the only way an offensive minded HC can win a championship is to be assured of outscoring any and every body.  Now, it doesn't take Cam Newton to make that offense effective, but it takes Cam Newton to assure you it will never ever break down completely.   Hell, even Tony Franklin will tell you defense wins championships. 

I'm with GF on this and offensive minded HCs.  I love offense, but not at the expense of defense.   And you got some of these guys out there that don't give a shit about defense.  Petrino and Malzahn are 2 such coaches.   

Can I ask for chiziks record against ranked and top 10 teams without cam?

Plus he was at Arkansas. I like to think we aren't them. He would recruit better here. Get a slam dunk dc like bvg and you've got a respectable defense. Plus what is his record against us? Just saying. 
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« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2012, 02:10:10 PM »
Bobby Petrino, some numbers and facts, aside from the off the field matters. 

Never beat Alabama. 

2008: 2-3 vs ranked teams.  The 2 wins vs Tulsa, and Auburn.  Lost 52-10 to #7 TX.  Scoring Def. Rank: 92  Recruiting Ranking 36th.

2009: 1-4 vs ranked teams.  Lost 35-7 to #3 Bammer. Def. Rank: 58  Recruiting Ranking: 16th (with 31 in the class)

2010:3-3 vs ranked teams. Lost 65-43 to #12 Auburn. Def.Rank: 47, Recruiting Ranking: 49th

2011: 4-2 vs ranked teams.  Lost 38-14 to #3 Bammer, and 41-17 to #1 LSU, Def. Rank: 33, Recruiting Ranking: 24th

2012: Recruiting Ranking 34th.

Ark. scheduled 3 patsies a season.  Against the highest level of competition (top 10 teams) he was 2-7, and frequently was blown out.  Had at least one loss in each season by 21+.  By comparison, Houston Nutt's recruiting classes were consistently ranked 25-30, so he didn't even recruit as well as Nutt. 

Tidbits from Lousville: Lost 37-7 to an unranked Memphis, and was blown out 49-28 by #14 Miami of Ohio in his first year, and finished the season with the #72 Defense.  In his second season, went 11-1, lost 41-38 to #3 Miami.  Gave up 27+ points 5 games, including 49 to an unranked Memphis team, Def. ranked 24th.  Year 3 went 9-3, with a 45-14 loss to unranked South Florida and defense rank 47th.  Year 4, 12-1, #4 L'ville lost at #14 Rutgers 28-25. 

The way I see Petrino?  The offensive minded version of Tommy Tuberville, with a little twist.  Petrino beats just about everybody he should, but rarely gets an upset win, and is frequently blown out by highly ranked teams.  Could he recruit better to Auburn?  Probably, but we all know recruiting can fall off at Auburn if it's not tended to, and he clearly isn't the best recruiter in the world.

So, you Petrino pimps will be happy winning 10, but never getting over the hump, and having to suffer 3 TD losses to highly ranked opponents at least once each year?  Losses where, many times, not only is the defense ass raped, but his high powered offense fails him too?  That's his body of work.  Not talking one year or 2, but 8 years as a HC.  You'll be happy with a guy that doesn't care about defense, and even in winning will frequently be in a shootout? 

Malzahn?   Unproven as a HC, but here's what you'd get.  A guy that I personally heard make the following statement: "When running this offense, you can't be concerned with defensive statistics".  Think back to 2009.  Set offensive records, shittastic defense.  All offenses have off days, or do like we did that season, build quick leads, then stall.  With no defense, we blew several leads that year, and the only way an offensive minded HC can win a championship is to be assured of outscoring any and every body.  Now, it doesn't take Cam Newton to make that offense effective, but it takes Cam Newton to assure you it will never ever break down completely.   Hell, even Tony Franklin will tell you defense wins championships. 

I'm with GF on this and offensive minded HCs.  I love offense, but not at the expense of defense.   And you got some of these guys out there that don't give a shit about defense.  Petrino and Malzahn are 2 such coaches.   

Please.  Allow me to retort. 

5-19.

Nobody can recruit there.  Nobody can win there consistently.  He will have better athletes and facilities at Auburn.

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