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Historical Year Fours

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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2012, 12:47:25 AM »
That's also because you fuckers had Shula.
While Shula will make you envious of almost any coaching staff, there was just something about Tuberville. I dreaded every Iron Bowl. It was (usually) always a fairly close game that you thought maybe your team would win, but knew deep down inside just didn't have the balls to win. No matter how much you convinced yourself that your team would win. Same could be said for games against Arky in the Shula/Nutt years. Two years of dealing with Saban at LSU was fucking terrifying as well.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2012, 12:50:43 AM »
Nobody ever did the research to see what was still around of those big numbers anyway.

From what I get, it's not a matter of that, but that Auburn gets the benefit of the doubt from the services, and if we go for a kid, they give him a boost, and if Bammer does, they give him a bigger boost, but Bammer is actually much better at evaluation than we are.  When bammer has a 5 star, they make him one, but when we have a 4 star we make him a 2 star. 
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2012, 12:51:13 AM »
While Shula will make you envious of almost any coaching staff, there was just something about Tuberville. I dreaded every Iron Bowl. It was (usually) always a fairly close game that you thought maybe your team would win, but knew deep down inside just didn't have the balls to win. No matter how much you convinced yourself that your team would win. Same could be said for games against Arky in the Shula/Nutt years. Two years of dealing with Saban at LSU was fucking terrifying as well.

I hope Saban has to be rushed to the hospital to have 30 gallons of jizz pumped out of his stomach. 
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2012, 08:50:06 AM »
Back to Tuberville for a second.  You know, the guy who I thought did everything pretty much right until the end.  Now what caused the end is a matter of debate.  Did he just not give a fuck and quit? Or did the administration make it clear that he didn't have support and they were just going to wait until there wouldn't be a fan uprising if they cut the strings?  Don't know. 

All I know is that Tuberville was there for 10 years.  Won the SEC West three times, won the SEC once, went undefeated once, won 11 games once, won at least nine games in SIX of his fucking ten seasons.  Think on that.  NINE games in at least six seasons, 11 games once and 13 once.   Had one losing season to open after a debacle (and should have beaten State that year).

He did all of that and never had players quit or transfer.  Never had robberies. Never had players doing spice (that we know of).  He wasn't suspending players week after week, season after season.  The NCAA didn't so much as sniff Auburn the whole time he was there. 

Yeah there was the damn Sexton drama.  That sucked and he should have cut that off at the knees, but in a way I don't blame him.  They were going to cut his dick off for the humiliation of 2003. 

Yeah. Humiliation.  Lost to the eventual national champs to open the season in the Jim Fyffe curse game.  Suffered a hangover loss to Georgia Tech.   Lost 31-7 at Baton Rouge (after beating LSU 31-7 the year before).  Lost to Georgia 26-7 and that was IT, dammit.  Lost two straight to GEORGIA!  No, motherfucker, you got to pack your shit and get out. 

Hmm.  We got ass raped 45-10 by LSU last year.  Ass raped 45-7 by Georgia.  Ass raped 42-14 by Alabama. 

Somebody try to tell me that's going to get better? 

I know Tuberville wasn't perfect, he had some kind of weird hangup with Arkansas and lost to those fucks when we should have beaten them, but in retrospect? 

Chizik's getting way more latitude than he got.

I can't disagree with any of that. I'm just numb.  :facepalm:
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2012, 10:20:00 AM »
From what I get, it's not a matter of that, but that Auburn gets the benefit of the doubt from the services, and if we go for a kid, they give him a boost, and if Bammer does, they give him a bigger boost, but Bammer is actually much better at evaluation than we are.  When bammer has a 5 star, they make him one, but when we have a 4 star we make him a 2 star.
The problem with this theory is that Auburn's not the only school, including Alabama, that also offered recruits that end up signing with Auburn. Many are recruited by Bama first, then sign with Auburn.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2012, 10:24:17 AM »
The problem with this theory is that Auburn's not the only school, including Alabama, that also offered recruits that end up signing with Auburn. Many are recruited by Bama first, then sign with Auburn.

Because, the mantra is true, bammer didn't REALLY want them.  Keep on trying to find holes in the theories of why we suck on the field when, on paper, we shouldn't.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2012, 10:37:29 AM »
Because, the mantra is true, bammer didn't REALLY want them.  Keep on trying to find holes in the theories of why we suck on the field when, on paper, we shouldn't.

I can agree with most of what you have said but I don't really buy the "didn't really want them" point
of view. I for one actually think we do have sufficient talent to be competitive. I do also think that the
offensive philosophy change has some to do with the lack of production. However, there are some
issues that I just can't figure out. One of those that pisses me off the most is the fact we have young guys at the LB that ARE better than Holland and they are not playing. For fucks sake, a DE that sits on the 3rd string would be better than whats out there right now.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2012, 10:41:35 AM »
I can agree with most of what you have said but I don't really buy the "didn't really want them" point
of view. I for one actually think we do have sufficient talent to be competitive. I do also think that the
offensive philosophy change has some to do with the lack of production. However, there are some
issues that I just can't figure out. One of those that pisses me off the most is the fact we have young guys at the LB that ARE better than Holland and they are not playing. For fucks sake, a DE that sits on the 3rd string would be better than whats out there right now.

I'm going with what I'm being told, which matches up with what I'm seeing on the field.  But, as I have also stated, even if the part about recruiting and talent level is wrong, it then falls back to coaching and developing players being the shortcoming.  Neither bodes well.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2012, 10:50:10 AM »
Neither bodes well.

No, it doesn't. Like I stated in my other rant post, its like a kick in the nuts.....with no mercy.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2012, 05:42:04 PM »
This is the bus I never got on and never will. 



It all starts here.  He's a mickey mouse motherfucker and the longer he's there the more mickey mouse our shit is going to be.

Last time he called all he could say "Well, ______ some decisions were out of my hands.". And you know the question I asked him.
I'm glad to see that the Auburn Family is finally waking up to what we have going on down there.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2012, 05:44:15 PM »
I'm going with what I'm being told, which matches up with what I'm seeing on the field. 

it then falls back to coaching and developing players being the shortcoming. 

If part 1 isn't directly related to part 2 of your quoted statement then it is wrong.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2012, 05:47:57 PM »
Last time he called all he could say "Well, ______ some decisions were out of my hands.". And you know the question I asked him.
I'm glad to see that the Auburn Family is finally waking up to what we have going on down there.

You're not even a good poser, and you're a world class fuckstick.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2012, 05:49:05 PM »
If part 1 isn't directly related to part 2 of your quoted statement then it is wrong.

Eat shit and die live you fucking piece of shit.
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Re: Historical Year Fours
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2012, 08:10:27 PM »
Because, the mantra is true, bammer didn't REALLY want them.  Keep on trying to find holes in the theories of why we suck on the field when, on paper, we shouldn't.

Even if we don't have quite the talent we think we do, we still shouldn't be worrying about get skullfucked by msu and needing luck and overtime to beat ulm.
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