Why There's No Way Chizik Loses His Job

[Kaos]

Kodi wound up being a team player and a valuable leader.  One could only hope that Frazier winds up like Kodi.  Right now, jury is out.

I think the jury already went home. 

Watch the game replay.  What's Fraz doing when he's on the sidelines?  Think back to what Cam did, what Brandon did, what Jason did. 

They were talking to teammates, huddling with coordinators (and the team), messing with the offensive linemen. 

Fraz?  Every time I saw he was standing by himself doing absolutely nothing but looking petulant.

[Kaos]

Phil Marshall says it's all about scheme:

You guys can ignore it if you want, but offensive coaches say the most difficult transition out there right now is going from a spread offense to a pro style offense. Texas did it and has gone 5-7 and 8-5. San Diego State did it when Hoke and Borges were there and went 4-9 the first year before going 9-4 the second year. Auburn is doing it with a QB who played the Malzahn offense since the ninth grade and two freshman offensive tackles.

As for Kiffin, isn't he in his second season at USC with the best QB in the country? Didn't Chizik win the national championship in his second year at Auburn with the best QB in the country

 

[Saniflush]

Phil Marshall says it's all about scheme:
 

 

I'm not enough of an X's and O's guy to be able to say but I know that shit doesn't explain defense or lack there of.

[Kaos]

By the way the whole premise of this thread is flawed. 

Two worst years over 10 is not equal to two worst years over 4. 

Three worst defenses in Auburn history is not equal to good defense even in the worst year imaginable.

[Godfather]

[JR4AU]

I'm not enough of an X's and O's guy to be able to say but I know that shit doesn't explain defense or lack there of.

Simple, bad defensive play calling.  Everybody knows that, well, except the coaches.

[djsimp]

Kodi wound up being a team player and a valuable leader.  One could only hope that Frazier winds up like Kodi.  Right now, jury is out.

True that. I was talking more along the lines of the hype coming in then the crash and burn. Kodi was talked up a lot for a while until he couldn't complete a pass to safe his life. Then the next couple of years we had the JUCO QB's and Kodi went to WR. Both Frazier and Burns are good athletes but their HS QB skills didn't translate very well at the college level.

[Townhallsavoy]

By the way the whole premise of this thread is flawed. 

Two worst years over 10 is not equal to two worst years over 4. 

I never made that claim.

Three worst defenses in Auburn history is not equal to good defense even in the worst year imaginable.

Touche. 

[JR4AU]

I haven't seen one post here advocating a complete change of scheme.  Incorporating elements of a read option might jump start our offense so others can get more involved.

We already run inverted veer.  I don't recall yet having a successful play when running it.  The idea of adding to the playbook, the playbook that Frazier can execute only 10% of as it stands, is a bit ludicrous.  Blaming bad play calling for bad plays where the play worked to get people open, Frazier had time to make his reads, but Frazier failed to release the ball is stupid too.   But keep on wishing it's about bad Xs and Os.  If only it were that simple.

[GH2001]

We already run inverted veer.  I don't recall yet having a successful play when running it.  The idea of adding to the playbook, the playbook that Frazier can execute only 10% of as it stands, is a bit ludicrous.  Blaming bad play calling for bad plays where the play worked to get people open, Frazier had time to make his reads, but Frazier failed to release the ball is stupid too.   But keep on wishing it's about bad Xs and Os.  If only it were that simple.

Phillip Marshall is off base in that last writeup. Ive seen too many plays from the last two games where Loeffler gave him plenty of good chances to make a play and he just nutted up. Some people probably think Loeffler should hold his dick to pee too.

[ssgaufan]

I actually like the look of this offense so far and think that it would be working great if we had a qb that was serviceable.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the stache leave after this season if he is not getting to run his defense.  Why the hell would he want to tarnish his rep for being a top notch defensive guy?

[GH2001]

I actually like the look of this offense so far and think that it would be working great if we had a qb that was serviceable.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the stache leave after this season if he is not getting to run his defense.  Why the hell would he want to tarnish his rep for being a top notch defensive guy?

And I don't give a shit what anyone is saying to the contrary, the OL and RBs ARE our bright spot. They havent looked bad at all to me. In fact, against Clemson, we may win that game if we keep mixing it up with pounding Mason inside and running outside with OMac. Look at their numbers from that game. And Blakely didn't look half bad against MSU. The OL isn't great, but it is opening holes and giving KF ENOUGH time.

[Snaggletiger]

Last two posts say it all.  Get a serviceable QB and we're probably 1-1 at worst and all of a sudden, the perception of the entire program going to hell in a hand basket is no more. 

[JR4AU]

And I don't give a shit what anyone is saying to the contrary, the OL and RBs ARE our bright spot. They havent looked bad at all to me. In fact, against Clemson, we may win that game if we keep mixing it up with pounding Mason inside and running outside with OMac. Look at their numbers from that game. And Blakely didn't look half bad against MSU. The OL isn't great, but it is opening holes and giving KF ENOUGH time.

^^^This.  Still, the underlying problems....

[JR4AU]

Last two posts say it all.  Get a serviceable QB and we're probably 1-1 at worst and all of a sudden, the perception of the entire program going to hell in a hand basket is no more.

Agree on QB, but not on overall perception.  Those that are looking hard see far more than one or 2 players not holding up their end. 

[GH2001]

Agree on QB, but not on overall perception.  Those that are looking hard see far more than one or 2 players not holding up their end.

My thought is that we would be 1-1 with a half ass serviceable QB and/or if we kept pounding the ball against CU , in spite of all the other issues. Yes, still some much bigger issues.

[Godfather]

I would also like to get a word out to Mr. McCalebb.

Dear Sir,

As fast as you are, when you hit the corner and there are 4 players waiting to tackle you.  Just get tackled.  Please do not try and reverse field and run backwards, because it doesn't work.  Case in point the 3 or 4 times you tried it and lost additional yards.

Thank you!

Signed,
Concerned in Florida

[Snaggletiger]

Dear Jake:

Cut that fucking mop and quit trying to look bad ass in your photos.  Also, if you could occasionally run towards a play every once in a while, it might help us out a little.  Just try to get in the way or something.  You don't actually have to tackle anyone...not that you could.  Mmmk?  thx

Signed,

Worried in the Wiregrass.

[djsimp]

Dear Coach,

Please place Craig Sanders on the 1st team LB corp. I want to see blood.

Signed,
Cold blooded killer.

[jmar]

We already run inverted veer.  I don't recall yet having a successful play when running it.  The idea of adding to the playbook, the playbook that Frazier can execute only 10% of as it stands, is a bit ludicrous.  Blaming bad play calling for bad plays where the play worked to get people open, Frazier had time to make his reads, but Frazier failed to release the ball is stupid too.   But keep on wishing it's about bad Xs and Os.  If only it were that simple.

Quick story: Back in the *stoned age I constantly changed plays from the sideline and the clipboard carrying sonuvabitch never took issue with me when I ventured outside of the framework of the offense because we severely lacked in talent and were consistently overmatched.

That said, I don't think it ludicrous nor does it put me in a tizzy to envision Prosch catching a screen pass and rumbling for ten or fifteen yards. But then I only played high school ball and two uneventful seasons of what was then called NAIA basketball. Soon it became apparent that I could not further my career in athletics due to lack of talent. Someone said "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit." But I had to pick myself up and move on with life. Eventually I landed a job, got married and started raising a family. Yet sadly I never had any ambition to coach my children in sports nor to read up on the cutting edge offenses of the new millenium, baseball books are better anyway.

I must inform you though that I am currently working with my three year old grandson and he is progressing nicely. You should see his footwork as he drops back efficiently, ball held high as he scans downfield for would-be receivers. I know, I know it's too early to tell at this stage although in due time I even foresee the need for a tutor and film study to help him read defenses (every fledgling QB's dilemma) but the kid has the makings of a Manning. Only thing is, he gets an occaisional boo-boo from an ant bite or makes lame excuses so he can go inside and play video games instead of focusing on the task at hand.  Kids these days! Next thing you know he'll be wanting a dollar to mow the lawn... I had to do that AND wash two cars before I was allowed to play ball. Xs and Os indeed!