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Taking One Step Back from the Ledge

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Re: Taking One Step Back from the Ledge
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2012, 09:07:51 PM »
I think he gets one more year regardless, but no way three.
We are thinking in the present.
We have ten more games.
 
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2012, 09:21:09 PM »
We are thinking in the present.
We have ten more games.
 

Doesn't matter, he still gets a year do to the title he won.  Don't agree or disagree with it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2012, 09:24:15 PM »
Doesn't matter, he still gets a year do to the title he won.  Don't agree or disagree with it.
This x2

I will add a caveat that he could be fired if it were a season of disastrous proportions, and it very well may be.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2012, 09:32:43 PM »
I think he gets one more year regardless, but no way three.
Things being the way they are.  4th season.  This is Chizik's team, not Tub's. The players are his, and the staff was all assembled by Chiz.  And this is the product we see?  Why give him one more year?  To do what?

We have the X full of folks that claim Chiz forgot how to coach, or never knew, and a staff of the same, and honestly, with what is being put on the field compared to the recruiting the last 4 years, fuck, how could you think anything else?

Oh, I got more news for you suggesting we go "all run" and pound people.  Vs MSU, we, as a team ran the ball 39 times for 91 yards.  2.3ypc avg.  AGAINST MISSISSIPPI GAWD DAMN STATE MAN!!

I'm usually in the coach's corner and can usually see what the problem is in that they're lacking talent, or it's very young.  The youngest unit on this team is the OL, and they're the best unit there is.  They're now being asked to block 8 and 9 man fronts to run the ball. 

Frazier wasn't just Ark. "Mr Football" like Moseley was, he was highly recruited, and he looks like a week old shit sandwich.  I mean, is it possible every crootin' service missed that badly, and every team that offered him was that blind?  Offers from Auburn, Ark., LSU, Florida, Michigan, Miami, Notre Dame, etc.  Loeffler nor Malzahn could make this kid even a fucking serviceable QB?  Hell, it's not like he had to learn a new offense under Malzahn, yet when Trotter proved to be shit, they chose Mosely, rather than the supposed future of the program?

Why the fuck is Jake Holland still allowed to fucking disgrace the Auburn uniform?  Isn't his father connected with "Eyes on Auburn"?  Is he being played ahead of more talented players due to politics?

I have so many more questions and thoughts, but the biggest one is: "Why give him another year?"  If we have to have 24 Seniors, Cam Newton, and Nick Fairley for Chiz to be successful, well, we're going to have to be real patient more years than not.  We're getting the recruits we go after, but they're not producing on the field. 
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Re: Taking One Step Back from the Ledge
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2012, 09:32:59 PM »
This x2

I will add a caveat that he could be fired if it were a season of disastrous proportions, and it very well may be.


How bad is disastrous? 2, 3 wins?
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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2012, 09:36:24 PM »
Things being the way they are.  4th season.  This is Chizik's team, not Tub's. The players are his, and the staff was all assembled by Chiz.  And this is the product we see?  Why give him one more year?  To do what?

We have the X full of folks that claim Chiz forgot how to coach, or never knew, and a staff of the same, and honestly, with what is being put on the field compared to the recruiting the last 4 years, fuck, how could you think anything else?

Oh, I got more news for you suggesting we go "all run" and pound people.  Vs MSU, we, as a team ran the ball 39 times for 91 yards.  2.3ypc avg.  AGAINST MISSISSIPPI GAWD DAMN STATE MAN!!

I'm usually in the coach's corner and can usually see what the problem is in that they're lacking talent, or it's very young.  The youngest unit on this team is the OL, and they're the best unit there is.  They're now being asked to block 8 and 9 man fronts to run the ball. 

Frazier wasn't just Ark. "Mr Football" like Moseley was, he was highly recruited, and he looks like a week old shit sandwich.  I mean, is it possible every crootin' service missed that badly, and every team that offered him was that blind?  Offers from Auburn, Ark., LSU, Florida, Michigan, Miami, Notre Dame, etc.  Loeffler nor Malzahn could make this kid even a fucking serviceable QB?  Hell, it's not like he had to learn a new offense under Malzahn, yet when Trotter proved to be shit, they chose Mosely, rather than the supposed future of the program?

Why the fuck is Jake Holland still allowed to fucking disgrace the Auburn uniform?  Isn't his father connected with "Eyes on Auburn"?  Is he being played ahead of more talented players due to politics?

I have so many more questions and thoughts, but the biggest one is: "Why give him another year?"  If we have to have 24 Seniors, Cam Newton, and Nick Fairley for Chiz to be successful, well, we're going to have to be real patient more years than not.  We're getting the recruits we go after, but they're not producing on the field.

That is all true but none of us get to make the decision.
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2012, 09:37:06 PM »

You talking 2, 3 wins?

I was thinking 2
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2012, 09:38:25 PM »

You talking 2, 3 wins?
I am talking 2 or less and blowouts to the remaining SEC teams (not just LSU, bama, and arky which is pretty much inevitable at this point.)
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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2012, 09:39:04 PM »
That is all true but none of us get to make the decision.

I get that, but I'm asking the reasoning behind thinking he should/will. 
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Re: Taking One Step Back from the Ledge
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2012, 09:40:07 PM »
That is all true but none of us get to make the decision.
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« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2012, 09:41:04 PM »
I get that, but I'm asking the reasoning behind thinking he should/will.
I think impression.  National media will have a field day with the fact he is 2 years removed from the title.

Plus he is Jacobs boy, hard to admit you made a mistake.
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Re: Taking One Step Back from the Ledge
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2012, 09:41:27 PM »
I get that, but I'm asking the reasoning behind thinking he should/will.

I am torn, I can give him another year for all of the great moments I enjoyed in 2010. 

However the more intellectual side tells me it will not get better, but maybe I am wrong.
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« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2012, 09:41:56 PM »
I think impression.  National media will have a field day with the fact he is 2 years removed from the title.

Plus he is Jacobs boy, hard to admit you made a mistake.

And this.
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« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2012, 09:47:42 PM »
I think impression.  National media will have a field day with the fact he is 2 years removed from the title.

Plus he is Jacobs boy, hard to admit you made a mistake.

Agree on that last bit big time.
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« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2012, 09:51:19 PM »
Agree on that last bit big time.


Is CGC = Coker ?
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« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2012, 09:53:36 PM »


Is CGC = Coker ?

I'm still waiting on the brawl. 
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Re: Taking One Step Back from the Ledge
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2012, 09:54:19 PM »

How bad is disastrous? 2, 3 wins?
I indicated the same.
The power brokers have a failing investment. And they have their own schedule. Jacobs?
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« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2012, 09:57:15 PM »
I indicated the same.
The power brokers have a failing investment. And they have their own schedule. Jacobs?

This I would like to see.  I don't know a lot about how all of the inside shit works, but have any of our athletics improved lately?
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« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2012, 09:59:20 PM »
This I would like to see.  I don't know a lot about how all of the inside shit works, but have any of our athletics improved lately?

Jacobs doesn't have many fans among us commoners that I am aware of. 
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Re: Taking One Step Back from the Ledge
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2012, 10:02:10 PM »


Is CGC = Coker ?

Larry Coker never had a losing season at Miami.  Was 7-6 his final year, following 2 9 win seasons.   I don't recall how his recruiting had been, but think I recall that was as big a reason he got fired being that they saw the cupboard was bare, and wins declining. 
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