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« on: August 31, 2012, 09:56:37 AM »
To hold down the fort.  Copypasta from Foxnews.  Just more  :facepalm:

Watch your mouth -- everyday phrases like "hold down the fort" and "rule of thumb" are potentially offensive bombshells.
 
At least according to the State Department.
 
Chief Diversity Officer John Robinson penned a column in the department's latest edition of "State Magazine" advising readers on some rather obscure Ps and Qs.
 
Robinson ticked off several common phrases and went on to explain why their roots are racially or culturally insensitive. The result was a list of no-nos that could easily result in some tongue-tied U.S. diplomats, particularly in an administration that swaps "war on terror" for "overseas contingency operation" and once shied away from using the word "terrorism."
 
For instance, Robinson warned, "hold down the fort" is a potentially insulting reference to American Indian stereotypes.
 
"How many times have you or a colleague asked if someone could 'hold down the fort?'" he wrote. "You were likely asking someone to watch the office while you go and do something else, but the phrase's historical connotation to some is negative and racially offensive."
 
He explained: "To 'hold down the fort' originally meant to watch and protect against the vicious Native American intruders. In the territories of the West, Army soldiers or settlers saw the 'fort' as their refuge from their perceived 'enemy,' the stereotypical 'savage' Native American tribes."
 
He singled out another phrase, "Going Dutch," as a "negative stereotype portraying the Dutch as cheap."
 
And "rule of thumb," he wrote, can according to women's activists refer "to an antiquated law, whereby the width of a husband's thumb was the legal size of a switch or rod allowed to beat his wife."
 
Further, he explained, "If her bruises were not larger than the width of his thumb, the husband could not be brought to court to answer for his behavior because he had not violated the 'rule of thumb.'"
 
He went on to urge caution over the word "handicap," as some disability advocates "believe this term is rooted in a correlation between a disabled individual and a beggar, who had to beg with a cap in his or her hand because of the inability to maintain employment."
 
What to make of all this?
 
Robinson cited the cautionary tale of Nike rolling out a "Black and Tan" sneaker without realizing the phrase once referred to a group "that committed atrocities against Irish civilians." Nike later apologized.
 
"Choose your words thoughtfully," Robinson wrote. "Now that you know the possible historical context of the above phrases, perhaps you will understand why someone could be offended by their use. Let us agree that language will continue to evolve with continually improving consciousness and respect for others."
 
Robinson also serves as the director of the Office of Civil Rights and an adviser to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on diversity issues. He earlier worked as chief diversity officer with the IRS.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/30/state-department-hold-down-fort-other-common-phrases-could-be-offensive/#ixzz258E8myNP
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 10:02:42 AM »
Just so you know, from henceforth all rape victims will be referred to as unwilling sperm recipients.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 10:05:34 AM »
Just so you know, from henceforth all rape victims will be referred to as unwilling sperm recipients.

If being an unwilling sperm recipient is inevitable...
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2012, 10:05:57 AM »
They give us these phrases and then take them away...that would make them Indian givers Well, a person that gives something and then they're dissatisfied and they wish they had, had never uh...
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2012, 10:08:11 AM »
The Irish brothers in Boondock Saints actually mention the Rule of Thumb phrase and it's historical place. And promptly get pounded on by a big bitch who didn't think it was funny.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 10:08:29 AM »
I have really had to watch myself these days now that I am specializing in international contracts. For example, when discussing a SaudiAramco deal in a (thankfully internal) memo, referring to the contract terms as "kosher" is frowned upon...   :facepalm:

Not one of my better moments.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 10:11:30 AM »
I find the term "Back door" offensive
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2012, 10:12:55 AM »
I find the term "Back door" offensive


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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 10:13:34 AM »
I have really had to watch myself these days now that I am specializing in international contracts. For example, when discussing a SaudiAramco deal in a (thankfully internal) memo, referring to the contract terms as "kosher" is frowned upon...   :facepalm:

Not one of my better moments.

Sad because all it literally means is pure diet. Too much PC in the world and it's getting worse.

Never have I once been offended by a stereotype or joke of my ethnicity. Hell, I laugh at them. All of them!
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 10:19:26 AM »
For 69 points, who said the following?


The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. I'm not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get into this country?"


On ever playing for a New York team: "I would retire first. It's the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you're [riding through] Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing."

 
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 10:21:20 AM »
Ted Williams?
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 10:24:20 AM »
Ted Williams?


Winner winner chicke....wait...NO!
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 10:26:39 AM »
For 69 points, who said the following?


The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. I'm not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get into this country?"


On ever playing for a New York team: "I would retire first. It's the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you're [riding through] Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing."

One of my favorites. Tell it like it is John Rocker!
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 10:27:01 AM »
For 69 points, who said the following?


The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. I'm not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get into this country?"


On ever playing for a New York team: "I would retire first. It's the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you're [riding through] Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing."

I loved John Rocker. Great closer. He became even more unhinged after that interview.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 10:32:51 AM »
One of my favorites. Tell it like it is John Rocker!

The media firestorm after that was so overboard.  Everyone had to keep piling on and it seemed that every talking head had to say, "The untold number of people he hurt with those remarks." 

Really?  Name one.  Name one person on the face of God's green earth that was actually hurt or even offended by what he said.  I think most New Yorkians would say, "Hey yo, fawk you, Rahkah!!"
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 10:38:17 AM »
I like to walk softly and carry a big stick while beating my wife.
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 10:49:17 AM »
I like to walk softly and carry a big stick while beating my wife.

Mr. GF, please tell the court when you stopped beating your wife.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 10:50:55 AM »
"Hey yo, fawk you, Rahkah!!"

"Hey, I just struck out your best hitter! What are you yelping about?"
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 10:55:35 AM »
Mr. GF, please tell the court when you stopped beating your wife.
What wife?
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 11:39:18 AM »
Those gubermint fucks aren't going to control my mouth. :fu:
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