Will Josh Bynes please report to the locker room?!?!?

[JR4AU]

I'm gonna go on record here.  Jake Holland is the Clint Moseley of the defense.

He's slow, constantly out of position, often run over, too often just stiff armed out of a play...

If he's a starter the defense has concerns still.

I won't go that far.  Moseley is bad.  Jake, IMHO, gets a partial break due to the fucked up defense he's played in under Roof.  He's just not good...yet.  One GIF?  Anybody can get juked.  If he's not improved under the new D Staff, and I mean see improvement in Game 1, then I'll agree with the above.

[The Prowler]

OLB Darren Bates
MLB Jake Holland
OLB Kris Frost

That'll be the starting LBers. Coach VanGorder is particularly hard on LBers, always has been, always will be....and it's not because they suck, it's because the LBers, particularly MLBer, are the heart of his Defenses. He's harder on them because they have to know every position and what they're doing to make the correct Defensive call in the matter of seconds. Holland was a first time starter last year and he had multiple injuries throughout the season...and he was only a Soph., plus he was being ”coached” by Coach Roof.

Remember Josh Bynes' Soph. & Jr. seasons?

Jake Holland isn't a LBer that plays sideline to sideline, he's a between the Tackles MLB.

So, again, stop with the ”if so & so is the starter we're doomed” bullshit...Kaos.

[RWS]

Jake Holland isn't a LBer that plays sideline to sideline, he's a between the Tackles MLB.

So, again, stop with the ”if so & so is the starter we're doomed” bullshit...Kaos.

Odd, you didn't seem to think that when you gave him 5 grillz.

I could definately see him in the rotation.  He's a headhunter that plays sideline to sideline, and attacks would be blockers.

Which also makes the following post comparing him to CJ Mosley amusing

IMO, Jake Holland is better than C.J. and I don't think that because I'm a homer.

[Snaggletiger]

I'm okay with Holland and right now, he's the only 230+ guy we have in the rotation at that position.  All I want is our defense to get in position, break down and tackle.  NO MORE SHOULDER BLOCKING soemone to the ground.  Darren Bates led the team in tackles last year. Lord only knows how.  He was the world's worst at that shit. He played LB like he played safety. Fly up and leave your feet.  I recall last year watching LSU play MSU and from the first play on, I was hollering at the TV...THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT.  Just tackle!!!

[Townhallsavoy]

Odd, you didn't seem to think that when you gave him 5 grillz.

Which also makes the following post comparing him to CJ Mosley amusing

[The Prowler]

Odd, you didn't seem to think that when you gave him 5 grillz.

Which also makes the following post comparing him to CJ Mosley amusing

...and I still think he was better than CJ coming out of HS. I don't have a crystal ball that shows me how a certain player will be THREE YEARS, a few injuries (including an ankle sprained) and apparently a bad LBer Coach later.

[jmar]

 Maybe the game is a little fast for him but he still has a chance to "develop" now that Stache is in charge. And I think most of us are expecting Frost to make up for the glaring shortfall be Superman.     

[Kaos]

So, again, stop with the ”if so & so is the starter we're doomed” bullshit...Kaos.

If Jake Holland is the starter our ass is going to be hurting. 

[JR4AU]

If Jake Holland is the starter our ass is going to be hurting.

You were just as certain that Moseley needed to replace Trotter.

[Kaos]

You were just as certain that Moseley needed to replace Trotter.

That was before I knew Moseley was a turtle. 

Trotter was flailing and had lost confidence.  Something had to happen.  Too bad that was the option we had.

[The Prowler]

That was before I knew Moseley was a turtle. 

Trotter was flailing and had lost confidence.  Something had to happen.  Too bad that was the option we had.

It's kinda hard to be an effective QB in Coach Malzahn's system when you see #77's humongous backside getting shoved into your face, or the DE coming at you basically untouched on most passing situations.

[The Prowler]

If Jake Holland Chris Todd is the starter our ass is going to be hurting (2009).

Yep, nailed that one Reggie...

[jmar]

Yep, nailed that one Reggie...

If we can run it maybe our QBs can overcome their shortcomings with that punisher we have at FB. That's right, Prosch is choosing my rotation up front...the others will be limping around on the sidelines helmet in hand.
Best to keep lower body parts moving if you're in his path.

OMac might be safe. 

[The Prowler]

If we can run it maybe our QBs can overcome their shortcomings with that punisher we have at FB. That's right, Prosch is choosing my rotation up front...the others will be limping around on the sidelines helmet in hand.
Best to keep lower body parts moving if you're in his path.

OMac might be safe.

I'm more confident in our current QBs in this offense than I would be in Coach Malzahn's, not knocking Malzahn. It's just that the QB makes or breaks his offense, plus the defenses around the Conference had apparently caught up with it as well.

Coach Leoffler's offense focuses on the Ground and Pound running game, with playaction off of that and a lot of passes to the TEs.

[JR4AU]

That was before I knew Moseley was a turtle. 

Trotter was flailing and had lost confidence.  Something had to happen.  Too bad that was the option we had.

Why did a change have to be made, when the only option sux'd worse?

Holland was a first year starter as a Soph. last season, in a defense that all agree was poorly coached from Nose Guard to free safety, and everything in between.  If Jake starts, you can pretty well bank it, he's shown to be the best option in BVG's eyes.  And, it's a new scheme, and new coaches, plus Holland is a year older.  I'll give him a chance to prove he really sux, and that it wasn't just youth, and bad coaching before I declare him no good. 

[Kaos]

Yep, nailed that one Reggie...

Amazing.  You had to dig back three years to think you found something (and unfortunately you didn't find anything at all). 

If you'd done any actual research you'd see that I said the choice of Chris Todd indicated that Chizik intended to win and not throw away a year in the name of "rebuilding"

Pssst?  Fail. 

[Kaos]

Why did a change have to be made, when the only option sux'd worse?

Holland was a first year starter as a Soph. last season, in a defense that all agree was poorly coached from Nose Guard to free safety, and everything in between.  If Jake starts, you can pretty well bank it, he's shown to be the best option in BVG's eyes.  And, it's a new scheme, and new coaches, plus Holland is a year older.  I'll give him a chance to prove he really sux, and that it wasn't just youth, and bad coaching before I declare him no good.

No reason to think at the time that the second option would be worse.  And then it was. 

Holland's overall suckage transcended coaching IMO.  If he's our best option he'll play, but I draw no comfort from that concept.

[Godfather]

I'm okay with Holland and right now, he's the only 230+ guy we have in the rotation at that position.  All I want is our defense to get in position, break down and tackle.  NO MORE SHOULDER BLOCKING soemone to the ground.  Darren Bates led the team in tackles last year. Lord only knows how.  He was the world's worst at that shit. He played LB like he played safety. Fly up and leave your feet.  I recall last year watching LSU play MSU and from the first play on, I was hollering at the TV...THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT.  Just tackle!!!

You just wish you had his Fro-ullet.

[JR4AU]

No reason to think at the time that the second option would be worse. 

You mean, other than not being named the starter?

[Kaos]

You mean, other than not being named the starter?

And then he was. 

So Chizik was stupid?  This is what you're saying?