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What Should Happen At Penn State?

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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2012, 01:58:50 PM »

Well that's just a french benefit.

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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2012, 02:01:58 PM »
On a seperate topic, your avatars keep getting better.


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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2012, 02:36:54 PM »
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2012, 03:57:10 PM »
The NCAA really needs to mind it's own business in this case. Just because the crimes were committed by a coach, and happened on school property doesn't make it their business. Even if there was a coverup by administration and other coaches. Now, if this were about improper benefits or something that the NCAA bylaws cover, and there was a massive coverup for years, then by all means. But this is a criminal investigation that just so happens to involve coaches and the administration. The NCAA can't just make up a bylaw out of the blue and retroactively apply it to a situation that happened before the bylaw existed.

As JR hinted to, the whole "lack of institutional control" is a phrase fans love to throw around as if it is just a generic catchall, but it isn't. There is a specific definition for it, and this shit doesn't meet the criteria. In general:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Process/Charging
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A lack of institutional control is found when the Committee on Infractions determines that major violations occurred and the institution failed to display:
•Adequate compliance measures.
•Appropriate education on those compliance measures.
•Sufficient monitoring to ensure the compliance measures are followed.
•Swift action upon learning of a violation.

If PSU actually committed an NCAA violation, then sure, LOIC may apply. The NCAA bylaws just don't contain any sort of language to cover this.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2012, 10:13:22 AM »
Boom.  PSU is proper fucked:

CBS News has learned that the NCAA will announce what a high-ranking association source called "unprecedented" penalties against both the Penn State University football team and the school.

"I've never seen anything like it," the source told correspondent Armen Keteyian.

NCAA President Mark Emmert will make the announcement Monday morning at 9 a.m. at the organization's headquarters in Indianapolis.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57477382/ncaa-source-unprecedented-penalties-against-penn-state/
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2012, 12:14:54 PM »
Will Bobby Bowden become the new NCAA wins leader? Matt Hayes seems to think that the NCAA will accept PSU's answers to 4 questions that were submitted recently.

It should make for an interesting Monday.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2012, 12:45:37 PM »
I wonder if the NCAA is trying to distance themselves from Penn State in order to avoid lawsuits. 
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2012, 12:49:58 PM »
Boom.  PSU is proper fucked:

CBS News has learned that the NCAA will announce what a high-ranking association source called "unprecedented" penalties against both the Penn State University football team and the school.

"I've never seen anything like it," the source told correspondent Armen Keteyian.

NCAA President Mark Emmert will make the announcement Monday morning at 9 a.m. at the organization's headquarters in Indianapolis.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57477382/ncaa-source-unprecedented-penalties-against-penn-state/

Will be very interested to see what they've cooked up.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2012, 01:10:54 PM »
This link should provide some entertainment tomorrow.

http://bwi.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=890&fid=36&style=2
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2012, 01:21:11 PM »
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #71 on: July 23, 2012, 02:43:25 AM »
Say....

How come Danny Sheridan didn't know about all this before it happened? 
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2012, 05:14:58 AM »
I'm still wondering which NCAA bylaw that Penn State violated. It should be interesting to see what they try to squeeze this in under.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #73 on: July 23, 2012, 07:20:35 AM »
Say....

How come Danny Sheridan didn't know about all this before it happened?


Cause this is only dealing with the sack that a man has.   Not a bag.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #74 on: July 23, 2012, 09:08:51 AM »
I'm still wondering which NCAA bylaw that Penn State violated. It should be interesting to see what they try to squeeze this in under.

Oh I don't know....having no control over their athletic dept.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2012, 11:10:05 AM »
Oh I don't know....having no control over their athletic dept.

That rule applies with regard to compliance issues, non of which were violated.  Deserving though they are, and as much as many will applaud this, this sets a bad precedent for the future of the NCAA.  Funny thing is, the biggest haters of the NCAA are the ones applauding this most.  None of the current players, alumni, or fans deserved this.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #76 on: July 23, 2012, 11:49:46 AM »
PSU has been setting up their appeal on the grounds of ineffective defense.


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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #77 on: July 23, 2012, 11:58:26 AM »
PSU has been setting up their appeal on the grounds of ineffective defense.




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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2012, 12:44:50 PM »
PSU has been setting up their appeal on the grounds of ineffective defense.





I am wondering now if the hiring of Roof was some sort of preemptive self imposed penalty.
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Re: What Should Happen At Penn State?
« Reply #79 on: July 23, 2012, 12:57:39 PM »

I am wondering now if the hiring of Roof was some sort of preemptive self imposed penalty.

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