What Should Happen At Penn State?

[GH2001]

That rule applies with regard to compliance issues, non of which were violated.  Deserving though they are, and as much as many will applaud this, this sets a bad precedent for the future of the NCAA.  Funny thing is, the biggest haters of the NCAA are the ones applauding this most.  None of the current players, alumni, or fans deserved this.

I find it funny that some also bitch more about the NCAA being the bad guy than Penn State. Root cause folks. The jerkoffs reside in Happy Valley. They caused this whole escapade by hiding a pervert.

[GH2001]

I am wondering now if the hiring of Roof was some sort of preemptive self imposed penalty.

Post of the week.

[JR4AU]

I find it funny that some also bitch more about the NCAA being the bad guy than Penn State. Root cause folks. The jerkoffs reside in Happy Valley. They caused this whole escapade by hiding a pervert.

Not the bad guy.  They exceeded their authority.  Pure and simple.  It simply wasn't an NCAA issue.  I don't feel a bit sorry for them as a program.  PSU deserves whatever comes there way, but fact is, the NCAA only had authority here because PSU consented to it.

[GH2001]

Not the bad guy.  They exceeded their authority.  Pure and simple.  It simply wasn't an NCAA issue.  I don't feel a bit sorry for them as a program.  PSU deserves whatever comes there way, but fact is, the NCAA only had authority here because PSU consented to it.

It just seems a lot of folks care MORE about the NCAA and their authority than the crime itself. The NCAA wouldn't even be in this situation if the fucker had not molested young children and the other fucksticks had not covered it up. Fuck PSU and Joe Pa. They deserve anything they get here, NCAA overreaching or not. I could careless. If the NCAA only did it with consent, then we have nothing to worry about on precedent.

[JR4AU]

It just seems a lot of folks care MORE about the NCAA and their authority than the crime itself. The NCAA wouldn't even be in this situation if the fucker had not molested young children and the other fucksticks had not covered it up. Fuck PSU and Joe Pa. They deserve anything they get here, NCAA overreaching or not. I could careless. If the NCAA only did it with consent, then we have nothing to worry about on precedent.

If Mark Emmert had any nuts he'd have simply said "this is a civil and criminal matter outside the scope and authority of the NCAA's bylaws".   Instead he had to "save face" and run ask PSU "how much punishment will you consent to?"  You could only care less because of the situation.  I still think it sets a bad precedent.  I think it, like the Cam Newton situation, will cause Emmert to get the NCAA membership grant him new powers to act with authority in the future, and it's a slippery slope IMHO.  I mean, if the FDA came in and levied sanctions here, nobody would argue that PSU doens't deserve it, but what's their jurisdiction?   Weiners and buns were involved?

[RWS]

It just seems a lot of folks care MORE about the NCAA and their authority than the crime itself. The NCAA wouldn't even be in this situation if the fucker had not molested young children and the other fucksticks had not covered it up. Fuck PSU and Joe Pa. They deserve anything they get here, NCAA overreaching or not. I could careless. If the NCAA only did it with consent, then we have nothing to worry about on precedent.

I would have been fine with the NCAA shutting them down completely, if it was within their authority. Nobody is saying that PSU doesn't deserve what it got. I just don't agree with how the NCAA did it. And if you think that this isn't precedent, I think you may be surprised at some point down the road. Using the NCAA's methodology, this is precedent. Think about it for a second. PSU was between a rock and a hard place. If they fight this, then that is going to be even more bad PR for them. But they would eventually win the fight, because there is no bylaw that they violated.

But at what cost would they win, really? If they had to deal with the NCAA again on an actual violation, they would be fucked. The NCAA has now set a precedent for themselves that basically says even if you haven't committed a violation technically, we can still try to strongarm you into something. They will keep that shit in their back pocket. Just think about that when something comes up that should probably be a violation, but the NCAA just didn't think about such an odd scenario happening and the bylaws don't cover that.

[The Six]

Sooooooo...can the NCAA punish Alabama because of what Harvey Updyke did to Auburn?

[Godfather]

He must have farted again.

[GH2001]

I would have been fine with the NCAA shutting them down completely, if it was within their authority. Nobody is saying that PSU doesn't deserve what it got. I just don't agree with how the NCAA did it. And if you think that this isn't precedent, I think you may be surprised at some point down the road. Using the NCAA's methodology, this is precedent. Think about it for a second. PSU was between a rock and a hard place. If they fight this, then that is going to be even more bad PR for them. But they would eventually win the fight, because there is no bylaw that they violated.

But at what cost would they win, really? If they had to deal with the NCAA again on an actual violation, they would be fucked. The NCAA has now set a precedent for themselves that basically says even if you haven't committed a violation technically, we can still try to strongarm you into something. They will keep that shit in their back pocket. Just think about that when something comes up that should probably be a violation, but the NCAA just didn't think about such an odd scenario happening and the bylaws don't cover that.

Good to see your goat fucking ass cares more about the Ennn-Seee-Double-AYYYY than the victims or crime itself. But then again, that makes perfect sense. The NCAA is a red herring at this point.

[RWS]

Good to see your goat fucking ass cares more about the Ennn-Seee-Double-AYYYY than the victims or crime itself. But then again, that makes perfect sense. The NCAA is a red herring at this point.

Nobody said that the victims or the crime itself didn't matter. Stop trying to dramatize it. As I said before, I would have been perfectly fine with the death penalty if the NCAA was able to use it. What you're not getting is that nobody is sitting here saying "Oh, poor pitiful PSU". I don't feel sorry for them. All I'm saying is that this precedent will fuck somebody down the road. I'm saying that it opens a can of worms that allows the NCAA to (at the very least) attempt to strongarm an institution into accepting a penalty, even though no violation of NCAA bylaws even occurred.

And if you think that just because I'm an Alabama fan that I automatically hate the NCAA, then you would be wrong. You can check my history and see that I have been generally supportive of the NCAA, even when they have levied sanctions against Alabama. I have never thought they did something they shouldn't have until now. Even though I feel that PSU should get any kind of punishment possible to handicap the program, I also feel that it should be done within the regulations of the NCAA. It has nothing to do with PSU specifically, it is more so to do with the precedent that it sets for future cases.

[GH2001]

Nobody said that the victims or the crime itself didn't matter. Stop trying to dramatize it. As I said before, I would have been perfectly fine with the death penalty if the NCAA was able to use it. What you're not getting is that nobody is sitting here saying "Oh, poor pitiful PSU". I don't feel sorry for them. All I'm saying is that this precedent will fuck somebody down the road. I'm saying that it opens a can of worms that allows the NCAA to (at the very least) attempt to strongarm an institution into accepting a penalty, even though no violation of NCAA bylaws even occurred.

And if you think that just because I'm an Alabama fan that I automatically hate the NCAA, then you would be wrong. You can check my history and see that I have been generally supportive of the NCAA, even when they have levied sanctions against Alabama. I have never thought they did something they shouldn't have until now. Even though I feel that PSU should get any kind of punishment possible to handicap the program, I also feel that it should be done within the regulations of the NCAA. It has nothing to do with PSU specifically, it is more so to do with the precedent that it sets for future cases.

I am not even saying the NCAA was in the right. I am saying you guys are getting yourselves worked up more in a frenzy over the NCAA than the child rapist.

[Saniflush]

I am not even saying the NCAA was in the right. I am saying you guys are getting yourselves worked up more in a frenzy over the NCAA than the child rapist.

Well maybe the obvious answer is that they are in favor of child rape?

[Snaggletiger]

Well maybe the obvious answer is that they are in favor of child rape?

Goat rape, sure.  But child rape? 

[GH2001]

Goat rape, sure.  But child rape?

RWS doesn't rape the goats because they like it and are willing. In fact, they initiate it sometimes.

RWS on bottom in this one.....

[The Prowler]

Nobody said that the victims or the crime itself didn't matter. Stop trying to dramatize it. As I said before, I would have been perfectly fine with the death penalty if the NCAA was able to use it. What you're not getting is that nobody is sitting here saying "Oh, poor pitiful PSU". I don't feel sorry for them. All I'm saying is that this precedent will fuck somebody down the road. I'm saying that it opens a can of worms that allows the NCAA to (at the very least) attempt to strongarm an institution into accepting a penalty, even though no violation of NCAA bylaws even occurred.

And if you think that just because I'm an Alabama fan that I automatically hate the NCAA, then you would be wrong. You can check my history and see that I have been generally supportive of the NCAA, even when they have levied sanctions against Alabama. I have never thought they did something they shouldn't have until now. Even though I feel that PSU should get any kind of punishment possible to handicap the program, I also feel that it should be done within the regulations of the NCAA. It has nothing to do with PSU specifically, it is more so to do with the precedent that it sets for future cases.

If uat is caught doing something this hideous, like PSU...Then, yes I expect the same Double Penetration that PSU just got nailed with. Same goes for Auburn.

[GH2001]

If uat is caught doing something this hideous, like PSU...Then, yes I expect the same Double Penetration that PSU just got nailed with. Same goes for Auburn.

All this talk of double penetration is getting Vandy Vol all hot and bothered.

[DnATL]

All this talk of double penetration is getting Vandy Vol all hot and bothered.

Single penetration is double penetration for a dwarf

[Saniflush]

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[GH2001]

Single penetration is double penetration for a dwarf

You are selling him short (pun intended). He's a hobbit, which is much higher status in short people world than a normal dwarf.

[dallaswareagle]

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I would rather take a shower at Penn State than be a bammer.