Updyke Trial

[The Six]

Gotta ask you barrister types:

He has pled not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect.  Is that not the same as saying "I did it, but I am fudgeed in the head, so I should not be held accountable"?

If you think you are innocent, then plead "not guilty".  How mentally fudgeed up you are should not be an issue at that point if you are innocent.

To me, that choice of plea is an admission of guilt, with an attempt to mitigate punishment by claiming you are brain damaged.

Yes?  No?

I'm not a lawyer but I think I dated a few who became such.

I am crazy though so I will weigh in.

He has pled not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect.  Is that not the same as saying "I did it, but I am fudgeed in the head, so I should not be held accountable"?

This is probably the concoction of his legal deefince team because pleading, "Judge, I just got too much 'Bama in me" probably wouldn't fly ever in court anywhere.

Harvey is a fudgeing legend to the houndstoothless nation so he'll either be "Free at last" or "a decorated martyr" when this is all said and done.

Where's my medicine?!?

[wesfau2]

fucking legend

Speaking of this particular mouthbreather...

I caught a couple of minutes of Fbaum yesterday and legend was wrapping up his call.  Apparently he was testifying to the fact that Harvey will be protected in prison because the inmates will be aware of his allegiance.  He drew some parallel to his own life (apparently he spent time in prison) and experience with prison "gangs".

I think legend was the bitch for the Sisters.

[The Six]

I think Legend was the bitch for the Sisters is still a bitch.

FTFY

[JR4AU]

Speaking of this particular mouthbreather...

I caught a couple of minutes of Fbaum yesterday and legend was wrapping up his call.  Apparently he was testifying to the fact that Harvey will be protected in prison because the inmates will be aware of his allegiance.  He drew some parallel to his own life (apparently he spent time in prison) and experience with prison "gangs".

I think legend was the bitch for the Sisters.

Legend did a stretch of about 20 years for a murder he did when he was 17.  And, in true fashion, he claims to have been railroaded.  Said it was self defense, but nobody would believe him, or some shit like that.  I've heard bits and pieces of the story, and don't know all the facts, but I think it was something to the effect of a pool hall bickering match where the victim told Legend "I'll fucking kill you", and Legend "in self defense" shot him dead. 

I do take some joy in the fact that the bammer nation is represented so well by a murdering Ex Con in Legend, DJ Kdub who "spins records" at a titty bar for a living, A crazy ass, back woods, snake handling "preacher" in Dawson, and formerly represented by a now deceased Pall Mall puffing redneck that was the manager down at the ice packing plant.  And the hero of that whole lot of rejects from the island of misfit toys is Harvey Updyke.  But, we all know, they're the exceptions.   

[AUChizad]

Speaking of this particular mouthbreather...

I caught a couple of minutes of Fbaum yesterday and legend was wrapping up his call.  Apparently he was testifying to the fact that Harvey will be protected in prison because the inmates will be aware of his allegiance.  He drew some parallel to his own life (apparently he spent time in prison) and experience with prison "gangs".

I think legend was the bitch for the Sisters.

Elaborate. He'll be protected cause he's a bammer? Is Legend admitting that the prison system is that highly concentrated with Turds?

[The Prowler]

Inmates dislike ex-State Troopers. The judge should sentence him to life without parole at a Maximum facility in Texas, not too many bammer turds there.

[Townhallsavoy]

I do take some joy in the fact that the bammer nation is represented so well by a murdering Ex Con in Legend, DJ Kdub who "spins records" at a titty bar for a living, A crazy ass, back woods, snake handling "preacher" in Dawson, and formerly represented by a now deceased Pall Mall puffing redneck that was the manager down at the ice packing plant.  And the hero of that whole lot of rejects from the island of misfit toys is Harvey Updyke.  But, we all know, they're the exceptions.

 

[Saniflush]

Idea stolen from another board but I like my addition.

[The Six]

Read The Plainsman article (in print) this morning and these two tidbits on page 2 stood out to me:

Updyke also said he was not alone in poisoning the oaks. However, he declined to reveal his accomplice's name.

Is this the first time he's asserted this? I don't recall hearing that before. Seems like smoke to me.

"There's a lot of stuff that's not going to come out," he said.

So, what like Woosie's lawyer claims, you were goaded into this, Harvey? Scotch taping an Auburn t-shirt with a #2 on it to Bryant's statue is the same as what you did?

[Saniflush]

So, what like Woosie's lawyer claims, you were goaded into this, Harvey? Scotch taping an Auburn t-shirt with a #2 on it to Bryant's statue is the same as what you did?

Hey man, it was duct tape.

[AUChizad]

One of us! One of us!
Gooble gobble, Gooble gobble,
We accept him, we accept him,
One of us! One of us!

[The Six]

One of us! One of us!
Gooble gobble, Gooble gobble,
We accept him, we accept him,
One of us! One of us!

What is "gooble gobble?" Is that one of those fancy iPhone apps you kids talk about?

[Buzz Killington]

rabble, rabble

[Buzz Killington]

Is this the first time he's asserted this? I don't recall hearing that before. Seems like smoke to me.

Don't remember the guy's name, but he had a "friend" that was basically letting him stay at one of his houses, and who <gasp> had access to the spike 80 that Updkye "allegedly" used.

[wesfau2]

Elaborate. He'll be protected cause he's a bammer? Is Legend admitting that the prison system is that highly concentrated with Turds?

I missed the beginning of the call, so your assumption is what I took from it.

[AU_Tiger_2000]

Idea stolen from another board but I like my addition.

Awesome photoshopping of Saban to the left side of the pic.  It's like he's really there!

[AUChizad]

Interesting notes from jury selection:
-Original pool was of 85 potential jurors.
-Asked who had heard of Updyke, 84 raised their hands. Only one elderly woman had no idea who he was.
-Of the 85, "over half" said they have rolled Toomer's Corner.
-Asked if they would make a decision based on Updyke's "status" as an Alabama fan, no one raised their hand.
-Just now they are asking the jury if they had heard anything about the Updyke case since Tuesday. Trying to figure out if the Plainsman article "poisoned" the jury pool.

Everyone involved in the case except both lawyers have been issued gag orders.

This includes the author of the Plainsman article in which Harvey confessed. He is no longer allowed to cover the case.

This also includes Paul Finebaum, although he is allowed to continue hosting his show.

[Buzz Killington]

Dude is going to get off with a very minimal punishment.  Just my gut feeling.

[AUChizad]

JR4AU belligerently wrong again:

Judge said he became convinced that Updyke couldn't get fair trial with current jury pool.

In so many words, this is essentially a "mistrial" before the trial starts.

Judge also plans to hear motion for change of venue; Also says he thinks the entire state knows about the case, which could be problematic.

[Townhallsavoy]

Well, naturally, everywhere in the state is going to be bias against Harvey Updyke except for maybe a few people in Tuscaloosa.  They should probably move the trial there.