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Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« on: April 16, 2012, 08:47:14 PM »
What a stupid idea!  This is just another meaningless promotion of class warfare.  It would have only confiscated a cumulative $47B from the top wage earners over the next decade.  To give it some perspective, the government is currently overspending by $1+Trillion each year since 2009. 

At least, they couldn't get enough votes.

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Senate GOP blocks Obama's 'Buffett rule' for minimum tax rate on millionaires
Published April 16, 2012          FoxNews.com

Senate Republicans blocked President Obama's so-called "Buffett Rule," as the proposed minimum tax rate for millionaires failed to advance in a procedural vote Monday.

The measure received majority support, 51-45, but 60 votes were required for the legislation to advance.
The anti-climactic outcome was no surprise to anyone in a vote that was designed more to win over voters and embarrass senators in close races than to push legislation into law.

At the White House, Obama denounced the vote, saying Republicans chose "once again to protect tax breaks for the wealthiest few Americans at the expense of the middle class." In a statement issued after the vote, he said he would keep pressing Congress to help the middle class.

"It's just plain wrong that millions of middle-class Americans pay a higher share of their income in taxes than some millionaires and billionaires," he said.

Republicans called the measure a divisive Democratic distraction from the nation's real problems that would not address the economy's real woes.

"This legislation will do nothing with regard to job creation, with regard to gas prices, with regard to economic recovery," said Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader.

Democrats' goal, he said, was "to try to draw attention away from the issues that the American people are most concerned about."

Sen. Susan Collins of Maine was the only Republican to join Democrats in voting to keep the measure alive, arguing that it was a way to begin considering a badly needed, broad revamping of the entire tax code.

The lone defecting Democrat was Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, who said making the rich pay a fair share of taxes should occur as part of an overall tax overhaul, "not as a political ploy meant to score points."

Monday's vote was the first time a "Buffett rule" proposal has come to a Senate vote this election year, though Democrats have tried unsuccessfully in recent months to impose modest surcharges on the income of the wealthy.

With presidential and congressional elections approaching in November, it was also a microcosm of the broader battle the two parties are waging over an economy that is still having a tough time creating enough new jobs. And the fight isn't confined to the Senate floor.

On Thursday, the House plans to vote on a plan by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., to provide 20 percent tax deductions to all businesses with fewer than 500 workers -- a threshold that includes 99.9 percent of all U.S. companies.

Republicans say that plan would spur job creation, while Democrats call it a giveaway to business because firms would not have to hire employees to receive the reduction. That bill is expected to pass the GOP-run House but die in the Democratic-led Senate.

The Senate vote was on a measure by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., that would impose a minimum 30 percent income tax on people making over $2 million yearly and phase in higher taxes for those earning at least $1 million. The measure is nicknamed for billionaire Warren Buffett, who has called for higher taxes on the rich.
The fight has been politically irresistible for both sides.

It allows Democrats to take shots at Mitt Romney, the wealthy, all-but-certain GOP presidential nominee. He has released data showing he paid an effective tax rate of only around 14 percent in 2010 and about 15 percent last year, both years earning around $21 million.

For Republicans, it's a chance to accuse its Democratic backers of pressing for tax increases that will divert money employers could otherwise use to expand and hire more workers.

The Senate measure would raise $47 billion over the coming decade, barely enough to notice against the roughly $7 trillion in budget deficits expected over that period. Administration officials have conceded that by itself it would do little to trim those shortfalls, instead emphasizing its fairness.

"The administration believes that continuing to allow some of the wealthiest Americans to use special tax breaks to avoid paying their fair share simply cannot be justified," the White House said in a written statement.

People making $1 million or more annually paid an average effective rate of 25 percent last year in federal income and payroll taxes that finance Social Security and Medicare, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, a Washington group that studies taxes. Those earning $50,000 to $75,000 paid an average effective rate of 12 percent, the group said.

The White House complaint was that even so, some millionaires end up paying lower rates than many of those earning less. That is largely because many wealthy people earn income from dividends that are taxed at just 15 percent, instead of the top 35 percent rate on salaries.

A report in October by the Congressional Research Service, an agency that conducts research for lawmakers, said about a quarter of those earning $1 million or more per year -- 94,500 taxpayers -- had a lower tax rate than 10.4 million moderate-income people. 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/16/senate-gop-blocks-obama-buffett-rule-minimum-tax-on-millionaires/
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 09:20:42 AM »
It would have actually done harm in the markets and in the investment community. Business people and investors know much better how to reinvest their money than the FedGov. And the Market knows this.
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 01:54:53 PM »
What's the Buffet rule?

Always get a new clean plate?
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 01:57:14 PM »
What's the Buffet rule?

Always get a new clean plate?

That and don't put any food back after you have touched it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 01:58:23 PM »
That and don't put any food back after you have touched it.

I drank the chocolate straight from the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral.  They don't like that either.
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 02:29:39 PM »
I drank the chocolate straight from the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral.  They don't like that either.

I would put that right up there with licking the silverware.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 03:41:26 PM »
The Buffet rule is taken very seriously by the older generations.
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 03:43:03 PM »
The Buffet rule is taken very seriously by the older generations.

Yes it is.

Now  :getoff:
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 04:03:06 PM »
The Buffet rule is taken very seriously by the older generations.


only between the hours of 4-6 pm
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 04:05:42 PM »

only between the hours of 4-6 pm
After that it's Jeopardy and then bed time. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2012, 04:07:13 PM »
After that it's Jeopardy and then bed time.

I usually watch Vanna White first...then Jeopardy.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2012, 04:08:58 PM »
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Re: Buffet Rule gets sacked...
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2012, 04:26:39 PM »
Old mans porn star.

Her...and Lynda Carter...
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson