Trayvon

[GarMan]

Meanwhile...

[Snaggletiger]

Police have arrested a suspect in the beating of a white Alabama man by a throng of African-Americans, officials told FoxNews.com.
 
Terry Rawls, 44, has been arrested and was charged with first-degree assault. Rawls and victim Matthew Owens have had an ongoing feud dating back to 2009, according to Chad Tucker, a spokesman for the Mobile County District Attorney's Office.
 
No additional information was immediately released. Police in Mobile were planning to release additional information later Wednesday.
 
Owens, of Mobile, Ala., was assaulted with baseball bats, paint cans and other weapons at about 8:30 p.m. Saturday after telling a group of children to stop playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive, according to Ashley Rains, public information officer for the Mobile Police Department.
 
After the children left the area, a group of adults armed with weapons returned and confronted Owens, 40, in his front yard, where he was assaulted. Owens' sister, Ashley Parker, told WKRG she witnessed the attack and that there were as many as 20 assailants. Parker said she overheard one of them say, "Now that's justice for Trayvon."
 
Trayvon Martin, 17, is the unarmed teenager who was fatally shot Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla. George Zimmerman, who has been charged with second-degree murder in Martin's death, went into hiding Monday as he awaits trial. Emotions ran high as six weeks passed before Zimmerman was charged, leading many African-American community leaders to decry what they perceived as racism in the justice system.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/25/arrest-made-in-beating-alabama-man/?test=latestnews#ixzz1t5TdvgmH

[Townhallsavoy]

Supposedly the Owens guy called the kids "stupid n---ers" and has harassed them for a while now.  That's what some woman named Lakeisha said.  I'm curious to see how this one playsfizzles out. 

[Vandy Vol]

Supposedly the Owens guy called the kids "stupid n---ers" and has harassed them for a while now.  That's what some woman named Lakeisha said.  I'm curious to see how this one playsfizzles out.

Fo shizzle.

[djsimp]

Fo shizzle.

My nizzle.

[Snaggletiger]

And the hits just keep on coming.....literally

CHICAGO –  An black 18-year-old suspected of a violent attack on a white teen told Chicago police the beating was motivated by his anger over the Trayvon Martin case in Florida, MyFoxChicago reports.
 
Alton Hayes III was charged with a hate crime after he and a 15-year-old attacked the 19-year-old man at about 1:00 a.m. on April 17 in Oak Park, a Chicago suburb.
 
Police say Hayes and his teenage partner, who has not been named since he is a juvenile, picked the man apparently at random and pinned his arms to the side.
 
Hayes allegedly then picked up a tree branch and demanded the victim give them his belongings, saying, "Empty your pockets, white boy."
 
The suspects then rifled through the victim's pockets, threw him to the ground and punched him numerous times in the head and back. Both suspects are black and the victim is white, according to police.
 
MyFoxChicago reports Hayes told police he decided to attack his victim because he is angry over the death of Trayvon Martin. Hayes said he chose his victim because he is white.
 
Hayes was charged with attempted robbery, aggravated battery and a hate crime, all felonies. His teenage comrade was referred to juvenile court.
 
Trayvon Martin, 17, is the unarmed black teenager who was fatally shot as he walked through a gated community in Sanford, Fla. on Feb. 26. George Zimmerman, who has been charged with second-degree murder, went into hiding Monday as he awaits trial.
 
Emotions have run high across the US over the incident, in large part because six weeks passed before Zimmerman was charged -- leading many African-American community leaders to decry what they perceived as racism in the justice system.
 
On Saturday night, a white man was beaten by a throng of African-Americans in Mobile, Ala., after telling a group of children to stop playing basketball in the middle of a street -- with one witness claiming she heard an assailant exclaim, "Now that's justice for Trayvon," WKRG -TV reported.
 
However, the Mobile Police Department said the assault on Matthew Owens, 40, was not being investigated as a hate crime.
 
Click here for more on this story from MyFoxChicago.com.
 
Newscore contributed to this report.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/26/suspect-attacked-white-teen-because-am-angry-about-trayvon/#ixzz1t9fp1w8w

[GH2001]

Supposedly the Owens guy called the kids "stupid n---ers" and has harassed them for a while now.  That's what some woman named Lakeisha said.  I'm curious to see how this one playsfizzles out.

Oh, I'm sure he did      I wonder how many times they actually did call him cracker. I know how many times I have been called one in person just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Never have I called a black the N word that way.

That's become a quick cop out for blacks on bad behavior (well, he called me the N word, so I can do whatever). They are taught to use this card from birth.

[CCTAU]

Oh, I'm sure he did      I wonder how many times they actually did call him cracker. I know how many times I have been called one in person just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Never have I called a black the N the word that way.

That's become a quick cop out for blacks on bad behavior (well, he called me the N word, so I can do whatever). They are taught to use this card from birth.

I wonder what sweet little Trayvon called Zimmerman right before he bashed his head in?

[GH2001]

I wonder what sweet little Trayvon called Zimmerman right before he bashed his head in?

Dat jive talkin turkey cracker ass best step back. Honkey ass tryin to punk my skittles dawg.

[Townhallsavoy]

Oh, I'm sure he did      I wonder how many times they actually did call him cracker. I know how many times I have been called one in person just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Never have I called a black the N word that way.

That's become a quick cop out for blacks on bad behavior (well, he called me the N word, so I can do whatever). They are taught to use this card from birth.

I really am curious to see if right wing reporting is going to be just as disingenuous as the mainstream's reporting of the Trayvon case. 

By no means is the use of extreme violence and lynch mobbing acceptable by those adults.  But the picture being painted (at least when I listened to the Shnit show (spelling?)) is that Owens merely asked the kids to quiet down on a Saturday night and the adults spontaneously showed up to beat him because he was white. 

It's a totally different story if Owens was antagonizing them and harassing them.  LaKeisha also stated that they had called the police on Owens before but nothing was done.

Again, their actions are totally uncalled for and animal-like behavior, and they should all go to jail. 

[GarMan]

Worth a read...
http://www.ijreview.com/2012/04/4384-details-of-the-real-george-zimmerman-may-change-case/

[Kaos]

Look she's wearing a hoodie!  Shoot her! 




With your Love Gun.

[Tarheel]

I heard this story this morning and almost drove off of the road; I had to share it and I have no idea about the source of the rumour (and it may be too soon for this kind of dark humor anyway...but the hypocrisy in Sharpton's answer to this person is too rich..."Tawana Brawley" anyone?); from Newsbusters, all emphasis is my own:

Sharpton Assures Radio Caller That Cheney's Heart Did Not Come From Trayvon Martin

By Jack Coleman | May 02, 2012 | 20:38

Al Sharpton benefits more than most radio hosts by having listeners call his show. It lets Sharpton come across as sane by comparison.
...

SHERRY IN SOUTH CAROLINA: I never got a clear understanding of Trayvon's heart. Was it actually given to Dick Cheney or was it not?

SHARPTON: No, I don't know anything, I don't think they gave Trayvon's heart to Dick Cheney, no.

SHERRY IN SOUTH CAROLINA: Did they give it to anyone?

SHARPTON: As far as I know his heart was not donated to anyone, I have not heard that from the family at all. But I know Dick Cheney didn't get it.

SHERRY IN SOUTH CAROLINA: OK, all right. Well, thank you. I'm finally cleared up on that.
 
SHARPTON: And that's, thank you for your call. You see, that's another thing. They put out outrageous rumors that people don't know right from wrong. That's why we need to stay right on these stations and give information, 'cause people innocently can be misinformed not trying to do anything but get the right information 'cause you get inundated by these people that just sit around just fantasizing all day long.
...

I think I'm going to help spread this rumor around just to see the left go apoplectic.  "I heard that Dick Cheney was given Treyvon's heart."

Source:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/05/02/sharpton-assures-radio-caller-cheneys-heart-did-not-come-#ixzz1tp7Ch2if

[AUChizad]

What happened, in my estimation, knowing what we know now, is pretty much what I assumed from the start. But confirmed.

George Zimmerman is/was a bitch. He calls the cops every time someone farts near him. He called the cops 50 times in an eight year period. He reported such things as slow vehicles, loitering strangers in the neighborhood and open garages. Every single time he was asked the race of the "suspicious people" he was reporting, they were black.

It sounds like this behavior caught up to him when he finally fucked with the wrong guy. Trayvon confronted him and started beating his ass. I don't think that's 100% justified, but I don't think it's unreasonable either when Barney Fife is calling the cops on you and pursuing you (counter to the police's instructions). Zimmerman acted in self defense, which may or may not have been overzealous (which I suppose is the piece that's left for the courts to decide) and shot Trayvon, killing him.

In a way, I feel like Zimmerman got what he deserved by getting caught up in this nightmare.

I do not believe that Zimmerman killed Martin in cold blood solely because of his race. I do believe that he was "suspicious" of him due to his race, as apparently he frequently is of every dark skinned person he sees walking through his neighborhood. I do believe this led to the altercation, and that he acted in what he believed to be reasonable self defense. However, considering how overzealous he is with calling the cops, it's reasonable to assume that he was overzealous in his assessment of what was reasonable self defense, and ultimately, he brought the altercation on himself by sticking his nose in business where it didn't belong. That being said, I'm sure Trayvon went on the offensive first.

All that is to say that for a case that so many people, on both sides, consider to be clearly open & shut, there is a lot of gray area, in my opinion.

[dallaswareagle]

What happened, in my estimation, knowing what we know now, is pretty much what I assumed from the start. But confirmed.

George Zimmerman is/was a bitch. He calls the cops every time someone farts near him. He called the cops 50 times in an eight year period. He reported such things as slow vehicles, loitering strangers in the neighborhood and open garages. Every single time he was asked the race of the "suspicious people" he was reporting, they were black.

It sounds like this behavior caught up to him when he finally fucked with the wrong guy. Trayvon confronted him and started beating his ass. I don't think that's 100% justified, but I don't think it's unreasonable either when Barney Fife is calling the cops on you and pursuing you (counter to the police's instructions). Zimmerman acted in self defense, which may or may not have been overzealous (which I suppose is the piece that's left for the courts to decide) and shot Trayvon, killing him.

In a way, I feel like Zimmerman got what he deserved by getting caught up in this nightmare.

I do not believe that Zimmerman killed Martin in cold blood solely because of his race. I do believe that he was "suspicious" of him due to his race, as apparently he frequently is of every dark skinned person he sees walking through his neighborhood. I do believe this led to the altercation, and that he acted in what he believed to be reasonable self defense. However, considering how overzealous he is with calling the cops, it's reasonable to assume that he was overzealous in his assessment of what was reasonable self defense, and ultimately, he brought the altercation on himself by sticking his nose in business where it didn't belong. That being said, I'm sure Trayvon went on the offensive first.

All that is to say that for a case that so many people, on both sides, consider to be clearly open & shut, there is a lot of gray area, in my opinion.

This case is also about race, because the media pushed it and a lot of folks want it that way.

Not guilty-Riots?

[AUTiger1]

He reported notices such things as slow vehicles, speeding vehicles, loitering strangers in the neighborhood and open garages. Every single time he was asked the race of the "suspicious people" he was reporting to his friend and neighbor the policeman, they were black, white trash, punk ass kids..etc...etc...etc.

Change a little around and I do the same damn thing.  Especially with the amount of kids that live in our neighborhood.  I don't blame the guy for looking out for his neighborhood as I do the same thing along with pretty much all my neighbors.  Now a major difference is we don't call the cops every time we see a car that isn't one of ours, but we do keep an eye out. 

[Tiger Wench]

I think the problem will be that the DA overcharged him.  I read a few legal discussions about this, and the general thought was that the prosecutor made it very hard on himself by charging Zimmerman with second degree, in whihc he has to PROVE that Zimmerman acted with malice and "evil intent" to cause death.  Since Zimmerman openly admits shooting Martin, had he been charged with manslaughter, which is action without intent to cause death, he would be walking towards prison right now. 

But it is very difficult to PROVE he had the intent to kill Martin.  Even if he was a Barney Fife wannabe, there's a big step between calling the cops 50 times and shooting a mofo.  With solid evidence that Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked, it makes it harder to prove the shooting was anything but self defense.  The defense, if it doesn't try any more stupid jokes, has a much easier time of it by onlyhaving to cast reasonable doubt.

I predict that Zimmerman gets off on second degree - the DA is in over his head - he can try and inflate all the inflamatory statements Zimmerman made, and try and spin them towards enough intent to justify second degree, but I don't think, based on what I have seen, heard and read so far, that I would vote for second degree.  I would have voted for manslaughter, no question. 

I don't know if that is the only count the jury is being asked to consider, or if he could get charged with other things, but I think he may walk - then Florida burns.

[WiregrassTiger]

What happened, in my estimation, knowing what we know now, is pretty much what I assumed from the start. But confirmed.

George Zimmerman is/was a bitch. He calls the cops every time someone farts near him. He called the cops 50 times in an eight year period. He reported such things as slow vehicles, loitering strangers in the neighborhood and open garages. Every single time he was asked the race of the "suspicious people" he was reporting, they were black.

It sounds like this behavior caught up to him when he finally fudgeed with the wrong guy. Trayvon confronted him and started beating his ass. I don't think that's 100% justified, but I don't think it's unreasonable either when Barney Fife is calling the cops on you and pursuing you (counter to the police's instructions). Zimmerman acted in self defense, which may or may not have been overzealous (which I suppose is the piece that's left for the courts to decide) and shot Trayvon, killing him.

In a way, I feel like Zimmerman got what he deserved by getting caught up in this nightmare.

I do not believe that Zimmerman killed Martin in cold blood solely because of his race. I do believe that he was "suspicious" of him due to his race, as apparently he frequently is of every dark skinned person he sees walking through his neighborhood. I do believe this led to the altercation, and that he acted in what he believed to be reasonable self defense. However, considering how overzealous he is with calling the cops, it's reasonable to assume that he was overzealous in his assessment of what was reasonable self defense, and ultimately, he brought the altercation on himself by sticking his nose in business where it didn't belong. That being said, I'm sure Trayvon went on the offensive first.

All that is to say that for a case that so many people, on both sides, consider to be clearly open & shut, there is a lot of gray area, in my opinion.

I didn't know about all of the calls to the cops. My guess is Zimmerman had some kind of mental issue. It's one of those cases that we'll never know the whole story. I haven't followed it closely but I've figured since the beginning, like Dallas said--the jury will find Zimmerman guilty in order to quell the riots--even if it's a light sentence.

[dallaswareagle]

I didn't know about all of the calls to the cops. My guess is Zimmerman had some kind of mental issue. It's one of those cases that we'll never know the whole story. I haven't followed it closely but I've figured since the beginning, like Dallas said--the jury will find Zimmerman guilty in order to quell the riots--even if it's a light sentence.

So do the Hispanic/white folks riot?   My wife is out of town right now but I could get her there.

[AUChizad]

I think the problem will be that the DA overcharged him.  I read a few legal discussions about this, and the general thought was that the prosecutor made it very hard on himself by charging Zimmerman with second degree, in whihc he has to PROVE that Zimmerman acted with malice and "evil intent" to cause death.  Since Zimmerman openly admits shooting Martin, had he been charged with manslaughter, which is action without intent to cause death, he would be walking towards prison right now. 

But it is very difficult to PROVE he had the intent to kill Martin.  Even if he was a Barney Fife wannabe, there's a big step between calling the cops 50 times and shooting a mofo.  With solid evidence that Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked, it makes it harder to prove the shooting was anything but self defense.  The defense, if it doesn't try any more stupid jokes, has a much easier time of it by onlyhaving to cast reasonable doubt.

I predict that Zimmerman gets off on second degree - the DA is in over his head - he can try and inflate all the inflamatory statements Zimmerman made, and try and spin them towards enough intent to justify second degree, but I don't think, based on what I have seen, heard and read so far, that I would vote for second degree.  I would have voted for manslaughter, no question. 

I don't know if that is the only count the jury is being asked to consider, or if he could get charged with other things, but I think he may walk - then Florida burns.

Once again, we are simpatico.