Alabama Phone Survey

[Snaggletiger]

Yes it is.  This poll is done by a well-known, left-leaning polling center in Raleigh, NC and it's clearly designed to pander to the stereotypes of Southerners that the inside-the-beltway elitists and the arrogant, self-entitled, self-important, insufferable, narcissistic liberals already have of us (e.g. uneducated, barefoot, mouth-breathing, provincial, hayseeds ala Mike Huckabee).  Thanks but no-thanks.

Damn that Raleigh, NC.

[AUChizad]

Do you believe in evolution?

60% No - Nooope
26% Yes
13% Not Sure

Interesting. So fossils, DNA sequences, systematic biology, population genetics, biogeography, and numerous laboratory experiments are meaningless?

I understand the debate as for the cause of evolution, but to deny that it occurs, on any level, is like denying gravity occurs.

[Kaos]

By the way, it is refreshing to see everyone so far answering this way. Apparently, only a quarter of Alabama conservatives agree with this.

Not only CAN evolution and creationism co-exist, they absolutely DO.  One does not exclude the other.  I believe in divine creation and that over time those creations adapt to their environment.  To suggest that there is no adaptation is blinding yourself to daily reality.  You see it in plant species even.  By the same token it's also borderline insanity to consider that all the processes that go into creating and sustaining life were the result of some cosmic accident.  It's too perfect to have been just that. 


As for the abstain?  Deference to my background.  I'm older and have seen more. I also have my own hypocritical lines that shift from time to time.  Don't really care what other people do but I have my own consideration of what's "right."  It's a much bigger argument and goes far beyond this topic, but this is just another example of someone else deciding what is acceptable and then castigating anyone as ignorant, backward or ill-refined because they happen to disagree. 

On the topic of race it's funny to me the number of people who are so enlightened, have never used a slur, their family has always been about equality.  Really?  Then who in the hell were all those people on campus at UA in 1963?  Who in the hell were all those people at Wallace's inauguration cheering their asses off?  They weren't just uneducated folks who climbed out of the hills.  Bankers. Lawyers. Doctors. Businessmen.

YOUR grandmother and grandfather (or great-grand depending on your age).  That's who those people were. 

We're better to accept history for what it is instead of some revisionist version where we paint people as evil and ignore the fact that they were riding on the shoulders of the majority. 

Ah... fuck it.   

[Tarheel]

Damn that Raleigh, NC.

PPP was founded by a Democrat operative and is funded in part by the friendly folk at the DailyKos.  So, I'm sure that their surveys are totally and completely impartial in outcome and design.  Just saying.

[AUChizad]

On the topic of race it's funny to me the number of people who are so enlightened, have never used a slur, their family has always been about equality.  Really?  Then who in the hell were all those people on campus at UA in 1963?  Who in the hell were all those people at Wallace's inauguration cheering their asses off?  They weren't just uneducated folks who climbed out of the hills.  Bankers. Lawyers. Doctors. Businessmen.

YOUR grandmother and grandfather (or great-grand depending on your age).  That's who those people were. 

We're better to accept history for what it is instead of some revisionist version where we paint people as evil and ignore the fact that they were riding on the shoulders of the majority. 

Ah... fuck it.

Not sure if you're talking about me here, but my grandfather was in the KKK back in the 40's & 50's. Even when I was a kid in the 80's, he would casually refer to black people as the N-word. Not even particularly in a hateful context. "That Bill Cosby is one funny (N-word)". I love my grandfather. Can't understand why he thought like that, but as you said, he was a product of the time and place he was raised.

But even he, at 80+ years old has changed significantly just in my lifetime. He loves my Puerto Rican wife. I haven't heard him use the N-word in at least 20 years.

[Townhallsavoy]

Interesting. So fossils, DNA sequences, systematic biology, population genetics, biogeography, and numerous laboratory experiments are meaningless?

I understand the debate as for the cause of evolution, but to deny that it occurs, on any level, is like denying gravity occurs.

It's because it's not really taught in schools.  It's a travesty. 

I understand that many religious people are afraid of evolution because so many use it as a hostile attack against any belief in God.  Unfortunately, there are "fundie creationists" types in the science realm as well. 

But until it's taught at the basic level of education, a large amount of people will be incredulous. 

[JR4AU]

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_SouthernSwing_312.pdf

Some notables:

51% male  **
49% female

If Election was Today:

28% Newt
31% Mitt **
30% Rick

Is Alabama's Immigration Law a Good Thing?

67% Yes
22% No**
12% Not Sure
It sucks big green donkey dicks

Is Barack Obama a Christian or Muslim?

60% Muslim **
14% Christian
41% Not Sure

Do you believe in evolution?

60% No
26% Yes
13% Not Sure
I actually think you can believe in creation and evolution

Should interracial marriage be legal or illegal?

67% Legal **
21% Illegal
Don't get the purpose of the question.Why would it be illegal?

Are you an Alabama or Auburn fan?

58% Alabama
28% Auburn **
14% Not Sure

[AUChizad]

Why would it not be? Dumb question

Don't get the purpose of the question.Why would it be illegal?

I am equally confused, but ask the 21% of Alabamans that answered that it should be. More than one out of every five people they asked. Thankfully it's not the majority, but still, WTF.

Yes it is.  This poll is done by a well-known, left-leaning polling center in Raleigh, NC and it's clearly designed to pander to the stereotypes of Southerners that the inside-the-beltway elitists and the arrogant, self-entitled, self-important, insufferable, narcissistic liberals already have of us (e.g. uneducated, barefoot, mouth-breathing, provincial, hayseeds ala Mike Huckabee).  Thanks but no-thanks.

As for the bias of the poll, I mean, they didn't answer for the people, or are you suggesting they are making up the results? If those are stereotypes of southerners, they are obviously founded, since those are their answers.

[Townhallsavoy]

I know someone who thinks blacks and whites shouldn't marry because it's difficult on the kids.  They have a hard time identifying with either side. 

But that's not something that should be controlled by the law. 

[Snaggletiger]

I know'd that Johnson brother what got hooked up with that ole colored gal.  Got er pregnant, he did.  They both dissypeared bout' 4 months later.  Word has it ole Sheriff Tate got wind of it, loaded em' both up one night and headed out to the swamp bed right off Simmons Creek Road.  Ain't nobody ever heered from either of em' again but they say if you drive up to Wilson's peak on a clear night, you can look down an see two eerie lights makin' their way through the swamp...like they's tryin' to find each other. 

[AUChizad]

Found this interesting in relation to this topic.

At least we're not Mississippi.

So this clip was on Bill Maher's show over the weekend. It is a short film by Nanci Pelosi's daughter, made for the show. Obviously they're leftist, and obviously they have an agenda. No question about that.

Maher introduced this video stating emphatically and repeatedly that the purpose of this was not to make fun of the South or reinforce stereotypes, which I found to be disingenuous considering the banjo background music throughout the whole thing. He also stated that "By the way, she said she cut out 20 people who also did not have teeth. Just so you know that is wasn’t like, ‘Oh we’re just going to show the guy with no teeth.’ She had to cut out a lot of people who also didn’t have teeth. She didn't seek out people who look like what some would say are rednecks." I find this hard to believe, since Mississippi is only 59% white, and I know for a fact that there are educated professionals who live in the state of Mississippi.

He did say, however, that they plan on doing this same segment for inner city ghetto interviewees about why they vote Democrat.

All that being said, intentions and obvious bias and stereotyping aside...most of these answers make me cringe.

[GarMan]

I think a lot of Catholics feel this way, actually.  So much so that the Vatican has said that Darwin's Theory of Evolution is "compatible" with Christianity (I won't debate why it took them until 2009 to say that, however).

My belief?  Science and Religion don't need to be at odds with each other.

Exactly...  That's what makes these polls so damn silly.  They force you into a direction by the way these questions are worded. 

Alabama's Immigration Law?  How many people really know everything that's in it?  From what I've heard, there are a lot of good things about it.  I've also heard the whining about the racial stereotyping...  The fact is the states are tired of the Fed not doing enough to address it.  Something needs to be done, and the states are taking a stand.   

Muslim or Christian?  Well, Barry claims to be a Christian.  Even though he has a Muslim name, as opposed to an American, Kenyan or Christian name, I'll take him at his word...
http://www.youtube.com/v/CaogID5Ngtk

How do you screw that up??? 

Interracial Marriage?  Hey...  It's Alabama.  Sheep, goats and sisters are fair game, but none of 'em queerz!

[AUTiger1]

Pretty much a carbon copy of GH's response from me.  This poll was really dumb.  Ask me the important things please if you are going to waste my time.

[Tarheel]

I am equally confused, but ask the 21% of Alabamans that answered that it should be. More than one out of every five people they asked. Thankfully it's not the majority, but still, WTF.
As for the bias of the poll, I mean, they didn't answer for the people, or are you suggesting they are making up the results? If those are stereotypes of southerners, they are obviously founded, since those are their answers.

Speak for you own native state.   

You're taking on face value that they are publishing exactly what they found in their survey.  I don't.  Study the source; Democrat party hacks.  Nothing personal but you obviously have a bias in favor of anticipating the results of the survey so you don't question it's validity.

I might buy into it if it was a compilation of surveys from many institutes but from this one, dubious source...no.  This is why I stick to RealClearPolitics.com for political surveys for the most part.  They compile serious surveys from diverse institutes (sometimes including PPP) which should offset the bias. 

But this is a loaded survey anyway; "Do you believe in evolution?", "Should inter-racial marriage be legal or illegal?","Is Barack Obama a Christian or a Muslim?".  What the hell kind of serious political questions are those for a survey?  The point is they're not; these are ridiculous "gotcha" questions and political dreck that I'd expect from MSM shills. 

And the results are fodder for Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Daniel Tosh, and Stephen Colbert to make a laughing stock of the Alabamians while the MSM uses it to belittle, invalidate, and discredit southern voters.  Have fun!

[Token]

Alabama's Immigration Law?  How many people really know everything that's in it?  From what I've heard, there are a lot of good things about it.  I've also heard the whining about the racial stereotyping...  The fact is the states are tired of the Fed not doing enough to address it.  Something needs to be done, and the states are taking a stand.   

The only logical answer to the immigration law is NO.  I've sat through at least 80 hours worth of seminars, classes and conferences in the last 12 months regarding the law.  NOBODY understands or can enforce it.  That's how fucked up it is. 

Anyone who says it is good, is completely misinformed on the law, or they hate Hispanics.  And don't give me the "ALL illegals" crap.  Everyone knows the law was written and endorsed because whitey is tired of seeing mexicans in the grocery store line. 

[GarMan]

The only logical answer to the immigration law is NO.  I've sat through at least 80 hours worth of seminars, classes and conferences in the last 12 months regarding the law.  NOBODY understands or can enforce it.  That's how fucked up it is. 

Well, I did hear it was written in crayon... 

Anyone who says it is good, is completely misinformed on the law, or they hate Hispanics.  And don't give me the "ALL illegals" crap.  Everyone knows the law was written and endorsed because whitey is tired of seeing mexicans in the grocery store line.

It's racist.  So, let's do nothing...   

[JR4AU]

The only logical answer to the immigration law is NO.  I've sat through at least 80 hours worth of seminars, classes and conferences in the last 12 months regarding the law.  NOBODY understands or can enforce it.  That's how fucked up it is. 

Anyone who says it is good, is completely misinformed on the law, or they hate Hispanics.  And don't give me the "ALL illegals" crap.  Everyone knows the law was written and endorsed because whitey is tired of seeing mexicans in the grocery store line.

^^^Yep, ditto!

[JR4AU]

It's racist.  So, let's do nothing...   

The major issues?  It's unduly burdensome to LE Agencies, DA's Offices, and courts, yet ultimately, it's completely unenforceable. 

[GarMan]

The major issues?  It's unduly burdensome to LE Agencies, DA's Offices, and courts, yet ultimately, it's completely unenforceable.

I'm completely with you on that.  No argument from me on that... 

[AUChizad]

It's racist.  So, let's do nothing...   

Yeah, FUCK the constitution!