David Pollack gives his thoughts on Auburn's new DC....

The Prowler · « **on:** January 09, 2012, 06:18:40 PM »

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Congrats to Brian VanGorder for his new DC job at Auburn. He knows defense inside and out.
Not good news for SEC O's.

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VanGorder was the biggest football junkie I have ever been around. Studies hard,
demands excellence and teaches u how 2 b a man.

JR4AU · « **Reply #1 on:** January 09, 2012, 06:30:37 PM »

I guess I'd heard his name before, but knew nothing about him, but like him more and more.

The Prowler · « **Reply #2 on:** January 09, 2012, 06:54:34 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 09, 2012, 06:30:37 PM

I guess I'd heard his name before, but knew nothing about him, but like him more and more.

Pollack or Van Gorder?

JR4AU · « **Reply #3 on:** January 09, 2012, 06:56:17 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on January 09, 2012, 06:54:34 PM

Pollack or Van Gorder?

The Prowler · « **Reply #4 on:** January 09, 2012, 08:02:57 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 09, 2012, 06:56:17 PM

What's so funny? You're the one that didn't and still doesn't know who Brian Van Gorder was/is. He was just one of the best DCs in UGA's history. Mark and Mike Stoops wear Van Gorder pajamas.

JR4AU · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2012, 08:06:58 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on January 09, 2012, 08:02:57 PM

What's so funny? You're the one that didn't and still doesn't know who Brian Van Gorder was/is. He was just one of the best DCs in UGA's history. Mark and Mike Stoops wear Van Gorder pajamas.

Yeah, I didn't/don't really know shit about him, except that you've told me that we'll now hit, and tackle to the ground in practice, and what I've seen of his history. I'm happy with the hire.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2012, 10:29:11 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on January 09, 2012, 08:02:57 PM

What's so funny? You're the one that didn't and still doesn't know who Brian Van Gorder was/is. He was just one of the best DCs in UGA's history. Mark and Mike Stoops wear Van Gorder pajamas.

Got to agree with Prowler. For a guy that claims so much football knowledge, failing to know BVG was a pretty glaring error.

AUTiger1 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2012, 11:53:58 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on January 09, 2012, 10:29:11 PM

Got to agree with Prowler. For a guy that claims so much football knowledge, failing to know BVG was a pretty glaring error.

X's and O's, not Jimmies and Joes.

GH2001 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2012, 09:44:11 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on January 09, 2012, 10:29:11 PM

Got to agree with Prowler. For a guy that claims so much football knowledge, failing to know BVG was a pretty glaring error.

JR is an offensive know it all. Not a defensive know it all. Sheesh.

JR4AU · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2012, 12:06:23 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 10, 2012, 09:44:11 AM

JR is an offensive know it all. Not a defensive know it all. Sheesh.

^^this

Kaos · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2012, 12:35:48 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on January 09, 2012, 10:29:11 PM

Got to agree with Prowler. For a guy that claims so much football knowledge, failing to know BVG was a pretty glaring error.

I thought he was the head coach at Virginia Tech.

Can't all be rocket surgeons.

The Prowler · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2012, 06:54:48 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 09, 2012, 08:06:58 PM

Yeah, I didn't/don't really know shit about him, except that you've told me that we'll now hit, and tackle to the ground in practice, and what I've seen of his history. I'm happy with the hire.

You don't think I'm serious do you?

What do (LB) Odell Thurman, (S) Thomas Davis, (S) Greg Blue, (DE) David Pollack, (S) Sean Jones, (DE) Ray Gant, (LB) Boss Bailey, (LB) Brandon Miller & (LB) Danny Verdun Wheeler have in common?

Nope...wrong answer. The correct answer is all of these guys were Coach VanGorder's players and they all would knock your dick in the dirt and make you drown in your own pool of blood gushing out of your face and ears....or I would've accepted they're all Sledgehammer type hitters that played for CBVG.

So, when I say we're going to hit and tackle to the ground on Defense, instead of thud tackling...I mean it. We'd better have the backups on Offense ready...because they gonna get hurt if they go half ass (it'll make them tougher as well). That's why I love the hire. I just wish Eltoro Freeman had one more year, because I think he would've flourished with CBVG teaching him.

Also, do you still think recruiting by the HC, right now, is more important than focusing on finding the prospect's Coordinators, after the HC publicly states that he isn't sure which direction we're going to go on Offense or Defense? If so, go read Deon Bush and his Father's statements after he was made aware that Auburn is bringing in CBVG. Also, while you're at it, go read Stefon Digg's comments after Florida landed Brent Pease for their OC. You'll notice some similar comments to mine in the Deon's Father's comments.

Saniflush · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2012, 07:09:27 AM »

Quote from: The Prowler on January 11, 2012, 06:54:48 AM

You don't think I'm serious do you?

What do (LB) Odell Thurman, (S) Thomas Davis, (S) Greg Blue, (DE) David Pollack, (S) Sean Jones, (DE) Ray Gant, (LB) Boss Bailey, (LB) Brandon Miller & (LB) Danny Verdun Wheeler have in common?

All of them have carnal knowledge of David Greene?

AUJarhead · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2012, 07:24:47 AM »

Quote from: Saniflush on January 11, 2012, 07:09:27 AM

All of them have carnal knowledge of David Greene?

I was going to go with Uga, but that works, too.

JR4AU · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2012, 08:44:32 AM »

Quote from: The Prowler on January 11, 2012, 06:54:48 AM

You don't think I'm serious do you?

What do (LB) Odell Thurman, (S) Thomas Davis, (S) Greg Blue, (DE) David Pollack, (S) Sean Jones, (DE) Ray Gant, (LB) Boss Bailey, (LB) Brandon Miller & (LB) Danny Verdun Wheeler have in common?

Nope...wrong answer. The correct answer is all of these guys were Coach VanGorder's players and they all would knock your dick in the dirt and make you drown in your own pool of blood gushing out of your face and ears....or I would've accepted they're all Sledgehammer type hitters that played for CBVG.

So, when I say we're going to hit and tackle to the ground on Defense, instead of thud tackling...I mean it. We'd better have the backups on Offense ready...because they gonna get hurt if they go half ass (it'll make them tougher as well). That's why I love the hire. I just wish Eltoro Freeman had one more year, because I think he would've flourished with CBVG teaching him.

Also, do you still think recruiting by the HC, right now, is more important than focusing on finding the prospect's Coordinators, after the HC publicly states that he isn't sure which direction we're going to go on Offense or Defense? If so, go read Deon Bush and his Father's statements after he was made aware that Auburn is bringing in CBVG. Also, while you're at it, go read Stefon Digg's comments after Florida landed Brent Pease for their OC. You'll notice some similar comments to mine in the Deon's Father's comments.

I don't give a shit if you're serious or not. I don't care how many OCs and DCs you can name, it means jack shit. I don't care if you think that because he's produced some good, hard hitting players, that that means we'll be hitting hard in practice and injuring our own players, it matters not what you conjure up in you head. It's a good hire IMHO, not that my opinion matters, because he IS the new DC.

And no, recruiting is always first. I don't know how many times I have to tell you that.

GH2001 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2012, 10:24:29 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 11, 2012, 08:44:32 AM

I don't give a shit if you're serious or not. I don't care how many OCs and DCs you can name, it means jack shit. I don't care if you think that because he's produced some good, hard hitting players, that that means we'll be hitting hard in practice and injuring our own players, it matters not what you conjure up in you head. It's a good hire IMHO, not that my opinion matters, because he IS the new DC.

And no, recruiting is always first. I don't know how many times I have to tell you that.

I happen to agree with you solely on the reasoning that most coaches can't make Chocolate Cake out of Shit Pie. Yes BVG is a slam dunk hire and has done great everywhere he's had the players, but even the best coach can't perform without the proper players. You cannot let up on recruiting. Ever. I think Chizik has been able to manage both.

Godfather · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2012, 10:31:04 AM »

So outside of da Prowler I think we are all in agreement Jimmy's and Joe's much more important than Coach Jimmy and Coach Joe.

djsimp · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2012, 10:37:18 AM »

Quote from: Godfather on January 11, 2012, 10:31:04 AM

So outside of da Prowler I think we are all in agreement Jimmy's and Joe's much more important than Coach Jimmy and Coach Joe.

Bad players can make a good coach look bad. Good players can make a bad coach look good.

JR4AU · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2012, 01:05:40 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 11, 2012, 10:24:29 AM

I happen to agree with you solely on the reasoning that most coaches can't make Chocolate Cake out of Shit Pie. Yes BVG is a slam dunk hire and has done great everywhere he's had the players, but even the best coach can't perform without the proper players. You cannot let up on recruiting. Ever. I think Chizik has been able to manage both.

Uncle Lou said it the other night: "You can lose with talent, but you can't win without it". So, you have to have talent, and it has to be coached.

I listened to the presser...we got some coach speak speaking mofos on dat staff! And, as I've said, his history of defenses is solid, and I like the hire.

Now, if' you'll excuse me, I have to get back to memorizing the names of all the coordinators in football so I can get up to speed with prowlies "football knowledge."

Yoda · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2012, 01:36:53 PM »

Just listened to Pollack on the round table. Let me preface by saying that yes he did have a huge homer slant for Van Gorder because he played for him ( may have even been butt buddies by the way he spoke of him).

Now everything he said I loved. When asked about schemes he responded that VG adjusts to not only the talent he has playing for him but also the offense he is playing, from limp to semi.

Said in film room he will call you out and jump your ass. Straight up tell you that you suck. Semi to a little hard.

Not scared to play man coverage, and knows hows to coach kids and mold them into men. Full on wood.

When asked if he could turn AU's defense into a top 25 D within 2 years, Pollack stated that he can have them there next year. Blew my load.

Yeah I realize it was David Pollack, but he seems to know his x's and o's. I loved everything he had to say about VG.

Yes it takes athletes to make a great team but it also takes coaching to get great athletes to live up to their potential. Just like good parents raise good children and shitty ones raise people like RWS and Token.