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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2011, 05:48:21 PM »
After reading many posts (rational, ir- and all in between), here is my take (if I rip of your thoughts/posts, consider it an homage):

1) Gus committed to Auburn for 3 years...and that's what he gave.  He probably WANTED the Vandy job last year, but didn't want to earn the rep of a liar amongst his coaching brethren.

2) After year 3 Gus interviewed for a pretty good gig in UNC.  He was (speculation warning) likely passed over due to a glaring gap in his coaching resume: collegiate HC. 

3) He took a gig on familiar ground, with a loaded roster, with which he can make immediate noise and garner some instant interest to be parlayed into a big-time gig.   He will be the man, responsible for the entire program.   I'll be very surprised if he's at ASU after 2 years.

4) Problems with Chizik/Auburn?  Pfffft.  He probably chafed, like any strong-willed and competent person, under authority, but realized that coordinators have to defer to the head man.  If there was ill will, I doubt he'd stick around for the Chicken Bowl.

Parse away, fret, chew your fingernails and shake your fist at the ill-winds of fortune, but the end is NOT nigh for the Auburn Tigers.  Chizik, when he was hired, spoke of always having a list of assistants that he would want to hire.  I doubt he's ignored that list in the last three years.  He put together a mostly great coaching staff the first time around (remember...not much turnover in 3 years) and I trust the guy to do it again.

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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2011, 05:55:41 PM »
After reading many posts (rational, ir- and all in between), here is my take (if I rip of your thoughts/posts, consider it an homage):

1) Gus committed to Auburn for 3 years...and that's what he gave.  He probably WANTED the Vandy job last year, but didn't want to earn the rep of a liar amongst his coaching brethren.

2) After year 3 Gus interviewed for a pretty good gig in UNC.  He was (speculation warning) likely passed over due to a glaring gap in his coaching resume: collegiate HC. 

3) He took a gig on familiar ground, with a loaded roster, with which he can make immediate noise and garner some instant interest to be parlayed into a big-time gig.   He will be the man, responsible for the entire program.   I'll be very surprised if he's at ASU after 2 years.

4) Problems with Chizik/Auburn?  Pfffft.  He probably chafed, like any strong-willed and competent person, under authority, but realized that coordinators have to defer to the head man.  If there was ill will, I doubt he'd stick around for the Chicken Bowl.

Parse away, fret, chew your fingernails and shake your fist at the ill-winds of fortune, but the end is NOT nigh for the Auburn Tigers.  Chizik, when he was hired, spoke of always having a list of assistants that he would want to hire.  I doubt he's ignored that list in the last three years.  He put together a mostly great coaching staff the first time around (remember...not much turnover in 3 years) and I trust the guy to do it again.

What are your thoughts about the X being down all day?  Surely this is a sign there are problems down on the plains.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2011, 06:02:03 PM »
What are your thoughts about the X being down all day?  Surely this is a sign there are problems down on the plains.

It means that Gus is disgruntled with the pussy that runs this joint and shut it down like Dyer's running game.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2011, 06:09:38 PM »
ass kisser.

Your avatar could use a good ass kissing.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2011, 06:21:45 PM »
After reading many posts (rational, ir- and all in between), here is my take (if I rip of your thoughts/posts, consider it an homage):

1) Gus committed to Auburn for 3 years...and that's what he gave.  He probably WANTED the Vandy job last year, but didn't want to earn the rep of a liar amongst his coaching brethren.

2) After year 3 Gus interviewed for a pretty good gig in UNC.  He was (speculation warning) likely passed over due to a glaring gap in his coaching resume: collegiate HC. 

3) He took a gig on familiar ground, with a loaded roster, with which he can make immediate noise and garner some instant interest to be parlayed into a big-time gig.   He will be the man, responsible for the entire program.   I'll be very surprised if he's at ASU after 2 years.

4) Problems with Chizik/Auburn?  Pfffft.  He probably chafed, like any strong-willed and competent person, under authority, but realized that coordinators have to defer to the head man.  If there was ill will, I doubt he'd stick around for the Chicken Bowl.

Parse away, fret, chew your fingernails and shake your fist at the ill-winds of fortune, but the end is NOT nigh for the Auburn Tigers.  Chizik, when he was hired, spoke of always having a list of assistants that he would want to hire.  I doubt he's ignored that list in the last three years.  He put together a mostly great coaching staff the first time around (remember...not much turnover in 3 years) and I trust the guy to do it again.

I won't quibble with details, which, in the end, are mere opinion differences on insignificant details.  Pretty much spot on. 
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2011, 06:27:19 PM »
I won't quibble with details, which, in the end, are mere opinion differences on insignificant details.  Pretty much spot on.

Praise from Caesar!

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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2011, 07:00:15 PM »
After reading many posts (rational, ir- and all in between), here is my take (if I rip of your thoughts/posts, consider it an homage):

1) Gus committed to Auburn for 3 years...and that's what he gave.  He probably WANTED the Vandy job last year, but didn't want to earn the rep of a liar amongst his coaching brethren.

2) After year 3 Gus interviewed for a pretty good gig in UNC.  He was (speculation warning) likely passed over due to a glaring gap in his coaching resume: collegiate HC. 

3) He took a gig on familiar ground, with a loaded roster, with which he can make immediate noise and garner some instant interest to be parlayed into a big-time gig.   He will be the man, responsible for the entire program.   I'll be very surprised if he's at ASU after 2 years.

4) Problems with Chizik/Auburn?  Pfffft.  He probably chafed, like any strong-willed and competent person, under authority, but realized that coordinators have to defer to the head man.  If there was ill will, I doubt he'd stick around for the Chicken Bowl.

Parse away, fret, chew your fingernails and shake your fist at the ill-winds of fortune, but the end is NOT nigh for the Auburn Tigers.  Chizik, when he was hired, spoke of always having a list of assistants that he would want to hire.  I doubt he's ignored that list in the last three years.  He put together a mostly great coaching staff the first time around (remember...not much turnover in 3 years) and I trust the guy to do it again.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2011, 07:03:41 PM »
Praise from Caesar!

/hyperbole
are you being facetious?
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2011, 07:09:43 AM »
Aight, I'll try to explain this one more time for those that say he took a huge paycut.

He's getting $800,000 + a $550,000 house on the Ridgepointe Country Club (gated community) + two $30,000 (minimum) vehicles. Stop listening to the talking heads and/or the people that are trying to make this into some "As The Plains Burns" bullshit. Step back and look at it.

Like I said a week ago, Coach Malzahn should take that job, it's a HC gig...he   wants to be a HC...you'd be better off starting small and building up...and he didn't take a paycut.

Here's his new house.


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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2011, 09:49:54 AM »
Aight, I'll try to explain this one more time for those that say he took a huge paycut.

He's getting $800,000 + a $550,000 house on the Ridgepointe Country Club (gated community) + two $30,000 (minimum) vehicles. Stop listening to the talking heads and/or the people that are trying to make this into some "As The Plains Burns" bullshit. Step back and look at it.

Like I said a week ago, Coach Malzahn should take that job, it's a HC gig...he   wants to be a HC...you'd be better off starting small and building up...and he didn't take a paycut.

Here's his new house.


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Oh, that was you parked out in front of my house?
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2011, 11:27:11 AM »
Aight, I'll try to explain this one more time for those that say he took a huge paycut.

He's getting $800,000 + a $550,000 house on the Ridgepointe Country Club (gated community) + two $30,000 (minimum) vehicles. Stop listening to the talking heads and/or the people that are trying to make this into some "As The Plains Burns" bullshit. Step back and look at it.

Like I said a week ago, Coach Malzahn should take that job, it's a HC gig...he   wants to be a HC...you'd be better off starting small and building up...and he didn't take a paycut.

Here's his new house.


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He made $1.3 Mil, for ONE YEAR.  He allegedly turned down $3Mil a year at "coach killer vandy".  Go look up the list of coaches at Vandy, their records, and more importantly how many of them never landed another HC gig following Vandy since WWII and tell me it wasn't smart to turn it down.  Now all you hear is "he turned down AN SEC JOB".  Vandy is NOT an SEC job.  It's a job in the SEC.  Not the same thing.  Mark it down...IF Franklin can't parlay his 6-6 (2-6 in the SEC) success in to a better gig inside of 2 years, he'll be fired at Vandy.  Every coach is.     Also factor in he's just 6 years removed from being a $50K a year HS HC.  He's hit the fucking lottery whether it's $850K a house and 2 cars, or $1.3Mil a year.

The video, which was clearly heavily edited, and clearly designed to hurt Kristi, and Gus, did just that.  All I've heard about Kristi out of Auburn is how good she is to the players.  Nothing remotely like she came across in that video.  Still, perception, and yes she looked obnoxious as hell. 

You can't win at Vandy.  You can at Ark. State.  I don't give a fuck if you say "it's the Sun Belt".  It's a HC position at a very good program.  They've been competing for conference championships there for a while.  IF he has to stay more than one year 
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2011, 11:35:57 AM »
He made $1.3 Mil, for ONE YEAR.  He allegedly turned down $3Mil a year at "coach killer vandy".  Go look up the list of coaches at Vandy, their records, and more importantly how many of them never landed another HC gig following Vandy since WWII and tell me it wasn't smart to turn it down.  Now all you hear is "he turned down AN SEC JOB".  Vandy is NOT an SEC job.  It's a job in the SEC.  Not the same thing.  Mark it down...IF Franklin can't parlay his 6-6 (2-6 in the SEC) success in to a better gig inside of 2 years, he'll be fired at Vandy.  Every coach is.     Also factor in he's just 6 years removed from being a $50K a year HS HC.  He's hit the fucking lottery whether it's $850K a house and 2 cars, or $1.3Mil a year.

The video, which was clearly heavily edited, and clearly designed to hurt Kristi, and Gus, did just that.  All I've heard about Kristi out of Auburn is how good she is to the players.  Nothing remotely like she came across in that video.  Still, perception, and yes she looked obnoxious as hell. 

You can't win at Vandy.  You can at Ark. State.  I don't give a fuck if you say "it's the Sun Belt".  It's a HC position at a very good program.  They've been competing for conference championships there for a while.  IF he has to stay more than one year

Are you arguing with Prowler?  It looks like you are saying pretty much the same thing.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2011, 11:38:33 AM »
He made $1.3 Mil, for ONE YEAR.  He allegedly turned down $3Mil a year at "coach killer vandy".  Go look up the list of coaches at Vandy, their records, and more importantly how many of them never landed another HC gig following Vandy since WWII and tell me it wasn't smart to turn it down.  Now all you hear is "he turned down AN SEC JOB".  Vandy is NOT an SEC job.  It's a job in the SEC.  Not the same thing.  Mark it down...IF Franklin can't parlay his 6-6 (2-6 in the SEC) success in to a better gig inside of 2 years, he'll be fired at Vandy.  Every coach is.     Also factor in he's just 6 years removed from being a $50K a year HS HC.  He's hit the fucking lottery whether it's $850K a house and 2 cars, or $1.3Mil a year.

The video, which was clearly heavily edited, and clearly designed to hurt Kristi, and Gus, did just that.  All I've heard about Kristi out of Auburn is how good she is to the players.  Nothing remotely like she came across in that video.  Still, perception, and yes she looked obnoxious as hell. 

You can't win at Vandy.  You can at Ark. State.  I don't give a fuck if you say "it's the Sun Belt".  It's a HC position at a very good program.  They've been competing for conference championships there for a while.  IF he has to stay more than one year

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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2011, 11:38:44 AM »
Aight, I'll try to explain this one more time for those that say he took a huge paycut.

He's getting $800,000 + a $550,000 house on the Ridgepointe Country Club (gated community) + two $30,000 (minimum) vehicles. Stop listening to the talking heads and/or the people that are trying to make this into some "As The Plains Burns" bullshit. Step back and look at it.

Is he getting a new house and two new vehicles every year?  If not, then it's a pay cut for every year after his first.

This is neither here nor there when discussing whether it was the "right" decision for him to make, but I think it's pretty clear that it was a pay cut.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2011, 11:40:12 AM »
Are you arguing with Prowler?  It looks like you are saying pretty much the same thing.

Supporting his argument with mine.  I've been pretty clear that just because he didn't immediately land a BCS job doesn't make it a bad decision.  I agree with everyone that has posted why it's a sound career decision to take a HC job at a mid major level school like Ark. State even though it appears to be a pay cut, though it's not as big as some seem to think.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2011, 11:41:24 AM »
Is he getting a new house and two new vehicles every year?  If not, then it's a pay cut for every year after his first.

This is neither here nor there when discussing whether it was the "right" decision for him to make, but I think it's pretty clear that it was a pay cut.

Ok, and?
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2011, 11:42:09 AM »
Is he getting a new house and two new vehicles every year?  If not, then it's a pay cut for every year after his first.

This is neither here nor there when discussing whether it was the "right" decision for him to make, but I think it's pretty clear that it was a pay cut.

And that's only if he is being given the DEED to the house and will own it outright as an asset.

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Is he getting a new house and two new vehicles every year?  If not, then it's a pay cut for every year after his first.

This is neither here nor there when discussing whether it was the "right" decision for him to make, but I think it's pretty clear that it was a pay cut.

He's going to be allowed to supplement is income by renting out the top floor to itinerant rice pickers.
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Re: And the #1 answer for "The most terrible Fucking Coaching Decision Ever..."
« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2011, 12:03:22 PM »
I don't understand why it's so mind boggling to some. Everybody is looking at right now, and Malzahn is looking at long term. While he is taking a pay cut now, he will be a HC, and will more than likely be successful at Arkansas St. If I think that, then he probably knows it as well. If he is as successful as I think he will be, he will probably be making over a million a year in a year or two anyway. Him leaving AU is just as much a gamble as him staying at AU. For all we know, AU won't win a single game in two years. They might win a NC in two years. You just don't know what's going to happen. If he is successful at Arkansas St., then another team will want him as their HC eventually.

The good thing about it is he is inheriting a program that is rising. He isn't walking into a situation where a coach has ran a program into the ground. I think Arkansas St. is a perfect fit for him.
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