Is 2011 a mirror of 2003?

[JR4AU]

Auburn's for comparison's sake:

OL: 2 Sr's, 1 Jr, 1 RS Fr, 1 FR
WRs: 1 Sr, 2 Jr's, (1 Jr backing up Blake - Benton)
TE: 1 Jr
RB: 1 Jr, 1 Soph
QB: 1 Sophomore

DL: 4 Sophomores (2 sophomores, 2 freshmen on 2nd string)
LB: 1 Sr, 2 Jr, 1 Sophomore (2 Sophomores, 2 Freshmen on 2nd string)
CB: (Before Bell's Injury) 1 jr, 1 sophomore (1 sophomore, 1 freshman on 2nd string)
Safety: 1 Sr, 1 Sophomore (1 Sophomore, 1 Freshman on 2nd string)

It all starts up front, and we're young on both sides of the trench.  The 2 Sr. OL...one was an emergency stop gap, the other a guy that was 4 years on campus before he even sniffed the field. 

Soph QB, who hadn't taken a meaningful snap at AU until midway through this season, and was really never supposed to in the first place. 

[jmar]

That's all well and good, but it doesn't seem to be a problem for LSU.

CLEMSON is my best example- they are just as young and inexperienced as Auburn. They have no more talent than Auburn but Swinney got a Malzahn protege who lit a fire under them and they play inspired, never out of a game.

[JR4AU]

CLEMSON is my best example- they are just as young and inexperienced as Auburn. They have no more talent than Auburn but Swinney got a Malzahn protege who lit a fire under them and they play inspired, never out of a game.

Fail again.  Not going to take the time to write it all out.  Clemson:  3 Sr., a Jr. and Soph on the OL.  3 Sr. and a Soph starting on the DL.  They're younger in their depth on Def. and they're not great on Def. either.  But they start 17 Jr and Sr of their first 22.   You're simply stating false facts to try and justify your outrage. 

http://clemson.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

[jmar]

Fail again.  Not going to take the time to write it all out.  Clemson:  3 Sr., a Jr. and Soph on the OL.  3 Sr. and a Soph starting on the DL.  They're younger in their depth on Def. and they're not great on Def. either.  But they start 17 Jr and Sr of their first 22.   You're simply stating false facts to try and justify your outrage. 

http://clemson.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

My outrage goes beyond the youth and inexperience excuse.
I merely took Swinney's word in response to Chizik's claim without researching properly. That's the fail.

[JR4AU]

My outrage goes beyond the youth and inexperience excuse.
I merely took Swinney's word in response to Chizik's claim without researching properly. That's the fail.

You'll be better off to simply parrot "youth is not an excuse" than try to  use falsehoods to support it. 

[jmar]

You'll be better off to simply parrot "youth is not an excuse" than try to  use falsehoods to support it.

And you are just burning because Malzahn has gone into a shell and you regard him as a offensive god.

[JR4AU]

And you are just burning because Malzahn has gone into a shell and you regard him as a offensive god.

And you have to resort to making it personal with me to win.  He's not a God, he's an OC with little to work with.  But if it makes you feel better to think it's man love by me, then have a fucking ball. 

[The Prowler]

Want to see something interesting? Check out these three classes...these are the "upperclassmen" this year:

2007
QB
N/A

RB
N/A

WR
N/A

TE
N/A

OL
Jared Cooper *** (RS Sr. Out for the year)

DE
AJ Greene *** (RS Sr., moved over to OL)

DT
N/A

LB
Eltoro Freeman **** (Non Qualifier)

DB
N/A

2008
QB
N/A

RB
Onterrio McCalebb **** (Non Qualifier)

WR
N/A

TE
N/A

OL
N/A

DE
N/A

DT
N/A

LB
N/A

DB
T'Sharven Bell **** (1st year Starting CB, Out for the season)
Neiko Lipscomb *** (Starting Safety)

2009
QB
Clint Mosely *** (RS Soph. 1st Year Starter)

RB
Onterrio McCalebb **** (Jr., 2nd year starter, splits time with Mike Dyer)

WR
Emory Blake **** (Jr., 2nd year starter)
DeAngelo Benton **** (RS Jr., 1st year starter)
 
TE
Philip Lutzenkirchen **** (Jr., 2nd year starter)

OL
John Sullen *** (RS So., 1st year starter)

DE
Nosa Eguae **** (RS So., 2nd year starter)

DT
N/A

LB
Eltoro Freeman *** (RS Sr., 1st year starter)
Daren Bates ** (Jr., 3rd year starter)

DB
N/A

[jmar]

And you have to resort to making it personal with me to win.  He's not a God, he's an OC with little to work with.  But if it makes you feel better to think it's man love by me, then have a fucking ball.

Hey you're the one playing site policeman. And what is this win stuff? I don't regard any of this as oneupmanship, in fact I spend little of my time trying to disprove the opinions of others on this site. My posts bear that out. 

[Kaos]

And you have to resort to making it personal with me to win.  He's not a God, he's an OC with little to work with.  But if it makes you feel better to think it's man love by me, then have a fucking ball.

You did use "man love" and "ball" in the same sentence.  I'm beginning to have some questions. 

[JR4AU]

Hey you're the one playing site policeman. And what is this win stuff? I don't regard any of this as oneupmanship, in fact I spend little of my time trying to disprove the opinions of others on this site. My posts bear that out.

Yes, yes they do.

 But you did resort to the typical internet tactic of trying to make my stance personally biased to support your own false preten.se. 

It was an UBER FAIL!

[Kaos]

Yes, yes they do.

 But you did resort to the typical internet tactic of trying to make my stance personally biased to support your own false preten.se. 

It was an UBER FAIL!

I thought the typical internet tactic was to call you a nazi or to claim that I was just pushing your buttons.   

Fuck.  I've been doing it wrong. 

[jmar]

Yes, yes they do.

 But you did resort to the typical internet tactic of trying to make my stance personally biased to support your own false preten.se. 

It was an UBER FAIL!

I think a "genius" ought to have more than one drive in him per game. This is not the same offense that Chris Todd ran with all of the moving parts. Don't know if it's about pride or indifference but it is Malzahn's job to coordinate the offense in order to put points on the board and he is failing. As a fan I simply can't let him off the hook using inexperienced personnel as an excuse. 

 

[Kaos]

I think a "genius" ought to have more than one drive in him per game. This is not the same offense that Chris Todd ran with all of the moving parts. Don't know if it's about pride or indifference but it is Malzahn's job to coordinate the offense in order to put points on the board and he is failing. As a fan I simply can't let him off the hook using inexperienced personnel as an excuse.

What about a worse QB than Tuskegee?  That an excuse?

[JR4AU]

Hey you're the one playing site policeman. And what is this win stuff? I don't regard any of this as oneupmanship, in fact I spend little of my time trying to disprove the opinions of others on this site. My posts bear that out.

Policeman?  For confronting your opinion with my own, or worse, confronting your false facts with real ones? 

[JR4AU]

I think a "genius" ought to have more than one drive in him per game. This is not the same offense that Chris Todd ran with all of the moving parts. Don't know if it's about pride or indifference but it is Malzahn's job to coordinate the offense in order to put points on the board and he is failing. As a fan I simply can't let him off the hook using inexperienced personnel as an excuse.

I don't really believe in offensive or defensive "genius".  It is the same offense, with inferior play at OL and QB compared to that of 2009.    Malzahn isn't actually on the field playing in the game.  He doesn't have an xbox controller to make them make all the right moves.

[Kaos]

I don't really believe in offensive or defensive "genius".  It is the same offense, with inferior play at OL and QB compared to that of 2009.    Malzahn isn't actually on the field playing in the game.  He doesn't have an xbox controller to make them make all the right moves.

Because PS3 is better than XBox.  He has one of those. 

[JR4AU]

Because PS3 is better than XBox.  He has one of those.

I wish he'd hit the X button on time. 

[GH2001]

Want to see something interesting? Check out these three classes...these are the "upperclassmen" this year:

2007
QB
N/A

RB
N/A

WR
N/A

TE
N/A

OL
Jared Cooper *** (RS Sr. Out for the year)

DE
AJ Greene *** (RS Sr., moved over to OL)

DT
N/A

LB
Eltoro Freeman **** (Non Qualifier)

DB
N/A

2008
QB
N/A

RB
Onterrio McCalebb **** (Non Qualifier)

WR
N/A

TE
N/A

OL
N/A

DE
N/A

DT
N/A

LB
N/A

DB
T'Sharven Bell **** (1st year Starting CB, Out for the season)
Neiko Lipscomb *** (Starting Safety)

2009
QB
Clint Mosely *** (RS Soph. 1st Year Starter)

RB
Onterrio McCalebb **** (Jr., 2nd year starter, splits time with Mike Dyer)

WR
Emory Blake **** (Jr., 2nd year starter)
DeAngelo Benton **** (RS Jr., 1st year starter)
 
TE
Philip Lutzenkirchen **** (Jr., 2nd year starter)

OL
John Sullen *** (RS So., 1st year starter)

DE
Nosa Eguae **** (RS So., 2nd year starter)

DT
N/A

LB
Eltoro Freeman *** (RS Sr., 1st year starter)
Daren Bates ** (Jr., 3rd year starter)

DB
N/A

I see what you did there.

[jmar]

I don't really believe in offensive or defensive "genius".  It is the same offense, with inferior play at OL and QB compared to that of 2009.    Malzahn isn't actually on the field playing in the game.  He doesn't have an xbox controller to make them make all the right moves.

So is the solution to give Pike, Robinson and Westerman a try next season since we can't seem to teach the others to do what we need them to do ?  And what of the three QBs not named Cam Newton?

Look at the playmakers on this team and look at the development of the others.
Uh...we're waiting on that switch to turn on so those football instincts can take over.