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The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished

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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #120 on: November 11, 2011, 07:32:58 PM »
Do you ever make substantive replies to points, or do you just make irrelevant allegations about non-existent circular statements and what people do with their lives?
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #121 on: November 11, 2011, 07:34:46 PM »
Everything in the indictment is from 2002 and before I think.  Nine years ago.  That's a long time to pass for nothing to happen.

The incident with the very first victim in the indictment occurred in 2007.

Again, I ask...illiteracy?
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #122 on: November 11, 2011, 07:46:08 PM »
Do you ever make substantive replies to points, or do you just make irrelevant allegations about non-existent circular statements and what people do with their lives?

I typically do both at the same time. 

As for your second dealio, you're right.  This was a kid in Second Mile.  But it didn't blow up and wasn't public until a week or two ago.   Nine years elapsed between (again what we know, not what we assume) knowledge of bad acts.   

Are proposing that Penn State officials were aware of this situation in 2007?   Don't think anybody was.   It's definitely not specified in the indictment as to how they became aware of the situation or what they did during the years it seems it took to investigate.

I do find it somewhat odd that Second Mile events were held at PSU, but the indictment doesn't make clear what Sandusky's role in the Second Mile events at PSU was or if there even was one. 
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #123 on: November 12, 2011, 11:03:28 AM »
Still too soon?














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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #125 on: November 12, 2011, 01:00:22 PM »
He stayed away from "shoot him in the face" mob mentality. 
I don't think anybody here is taking that stance. I don't think anybody thinks he should even be prosecuted or anything. The only consistant points I have seen are that Joe Pa most certainly deserved to be fired over this whole thing, and the students protesting on his behalf are morons. Most of the conversation was sparked off by you attempting to justify Joe Pa having a hand in covering this whole thing up because it happens every where, everyday, and by your stance that he told his supervisor, so that's where his responsibility ended, because he did "what he was supposed to do".

Joe Pa deserved to be fired. They didn't take this guy's keys to the locker room away for nothing. They didn't tell him to stop bringing young boys to the football facilities for nothing. They didn't force him to resign for nothing. The problem with telling a lie is, you have to keep telling more lies to keep the first lie going. That is exactly what happened here. They knew something was going on, and they decided they didn't want it to tarnish the program. They had to bury it, but at the same time, make sure it didn't happen again. When it came around to kick them in the ass again, well they couldn't let that get out, because everybody would know they covered it up the first time. And so on, and so on. And now we are where we are today. 
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #126 on: November 12, 2011, 02:17:37 PM »
I don't think anybody here is taking that stance.

I am.  Sandusky along with anyone and everyone who knew what happened in 98 and didn't take the appropriate steps to have Sandusky criminally investigated when the same incident occurred again in 2002 should be lined up in the street and shot in the face at close range with a shotgun.  Mike McPussy should have to stand and watch every horrific execution just to get an idea of what is going to happen to his face when the slug hits it.   
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #127 on: November 12, 2011, 03:35:32 PM »
I am.  Sandusky along with anyone and everyone who knew what happened in 98 and didn't take the appropriate steps to have Sandusky criminally investigated when the same incident occurred again in 2002 should be lined up in the street and shot in the face at close range with a shotgun.  Mike McPussy should have to stand and watch every horrific execution just to get an idea of what is going to happen to his face when the slug hits it.

You never take a stand do you?  Always sitting on the fence.  You're a fence sitter.
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #128 on: November 12, 2011, 05:15:19 PM »
You never take a stand do you?  Always sitting on the fence.  You're a fence sitter.

He likes the feel of a post up his ass.
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #129 on: November 12, 2011, 05:16:48 PM »
He likes the feel of a post up his ass.

Sandusky thinks 10 year old boys do too.
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #130 on: November 12, 2011, 09:29:30 PM »
Sandusky thinks 10 year old boys do too.

But, the more important question is why did he think that?

Because if we don't know why, then I can't judge Sandusky for shoving his erection in children's anuses.
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #131 on: November 12, 2011, 09:55:03 PM »
But, the more important question is why did he think that?

Because if we don't know why, then I can't judge Sandusky for shoving his erection in children's anuses.

Hmmm. 

Idiot you are. 

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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #132 on: November 13, 2011, 06:20:01 PM »
Given the circumstances, I'm amazed that the Nitany Lions played as well as they did Saturday. In the end though, they came up a little behind.
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #133 on: November 13, 2011, 10:57:32 PM »
Given the circumstances, I'm amazed that the Nitany Lions played as well as they did Saturday. In the end though, they came up a little behind.

Nebraska took advantage of the fact that no one at Penn State is taught to defend the skinny post.
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #134 on: November 13, 2011, 10:58:35 PM »
Nebraska took advantage of the fact that no one at Penn State is taught to defend the skinny post.

Damn dude.  That is fucking full of awesome!!

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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #135 on: November 14, 2011, 12:59:59 AM »
Given the circumstances, I'm amazed that the Nitany Lions played as well as they did Saturday. In the end though, they came up a little behind.

came up a little behind...

Perhaps the best line ever.  Salute. 
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #136 on: November 14, 2011, 10:49:40 AM »
Wonder if Paterno gave anythought to the fact that Sandusky's home backed up to an elementary school playground.
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #137 on: November 14, 2011, 10:53:55 AM »
I am.  Sandusky along with anyone and everyone who knew what happened in 98 and didn't take the appropriate steps to have Sandusky criminally investigated when the same incident occurred again in 2002 should be lined up in the street and shot in the face at close range with a shotgun.  Mike McPussy should have to stand and watch every horrific execution just to get an idea of what is going to happen to his face when the slug hits it.

Perfect...  Perhaps, they can also shutdown their school or kill all of their sports programs...  Pedifile State University has just earned a reputation that it will NEVER be able to shake.  But, I fear this goes much further.  From this weekend, we've learned that the judge who set his bail at only $100k, while the DA requested $500k, was also a volunteer at the child molester's charity.  And then, we heard from Pedifile State officials who expect that there will be many more witnesses along with many more victims.  Disgusting...
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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #138 on: November 14, 2011, 05:13:01 PM »
Heard  Heath Evans on Brando today. He said about what I said for most of this. 

Paraphrased :

Everybody talks all bad ass about how they'd confront the guy or go to the authorities. Bullshit. 

Statistics bear it out. 90% of the time when confronted with it in real life people do nothing.  They react out of fear over how they, their organization, their company, their family, their church will be perceived. Self preservation. 

Doesn' make it right, it's just what it is. 

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Re: The End of an Era: Paterno is Finished
« Reply #139 on: November 14, 2011, 06:29:06 PM »
Heard  Heath Evans on Brando today. He said about what I said for most of this. 

Paraphrased :

Everybody talks all bad ass about how they'd confront the guy or go to the authorities. Bullshit. 

Statistics bear it out. 90% of the time when confronted with it in real life people do nothing.  They react out of fear over how they, their organization, their company, their family, their church will be perceived. Self preservation. 

Doesn' make it right, it's just what it is.

While I get that, and it's true from my experience, the difference here is a 6-5 28 year old man witnessed it happening live, and walked away.  He could have beat the shit out of Sandusky, saved the child, and they could have still covered it all up.  It's his reaction at that time that baffles me.  At the very least barge in and say "Hey coach, what's up, did you mean to have your penis in that kids bung hole or did he just slip and fall on it?" and put a stop to that incident. 
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