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Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?

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Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« on: November 02, 2011, 10:48:23 PM »
LSU's opponent (Offense Ranking):
Kentucky #118
Tennessee #102
Florida #94
Auburn #89
Mississippi State #74
West Virgina #13
Oregon #5

Average Ranking #70.7

uat's opponent (Offense Ranking):
Kent State #120
Ole Miss #115
North Texas #109
Vandy #106
Tennessee #102
Florida #94
Penn State #88
Arkansas #25

Average Ranking #94.8
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 10:54:18 PM »
Both and neither. 

The media defines "real deal" as unbeatable.  Legendary.  Greatest of all time. 

Of course, the team that loses - no matter the score - defaults on their quest for media glory. 

Both defenses are incredible and difficult to beat.  But you know what?  They're still college football teams, and college kids are liable to have a shitty day on the football field. 
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 11:28:20 PM »
Both defenses are incredible and difficult to beat.  But you know what?  They're still college football teams, and college kids are liable to have a shitty day on the football field smoke synthetic weed.

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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 07:16:34 AM »
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 10:40:15 AM »
Both and neither. 
Pretty good answer. I mean, it's not like having an opponent offensive ranking average of #70 is all that impressive, for that matter. Especially when you have a team like Baylor, who has the #3 offense in the country, but 3 losses. I don't think you're going to find a team that consistantly plays top 20 offenses and has a great defense to show for it. I don't really know what the point of this thread was, other than to amuse me by bringing to light the fact that North Texas has a better offense than Ole Miss.

The only thing you can do is judge them against everybody else in D1 football, because it is all relative. There are teams behind LSU in terms of opponents offensive statistics that don't have as good of a defense as LSU. Why? There are teams behind Alabama in terms of opponents offensive statistics that don't have as good of a defense as Alabama. Why?

Statistically, none of this shit matters. It will be hashed out on Saturday.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 10:43:31 AM by RWS »
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 10:42:03 AM »
It will be hashed out on Saturday.


Honey badger is off suspension.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 10:45:46 AM »

Honey badger is off suspension.
I have a feeling that Alabama will do a good job of making him somewhat of a non-factor. At least, not as much of a factor as he has been in some games. I hope I'm right.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 10:45:50 AM »
LSU played Oregon.  Have you seen them?  They're just so fast.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 11:08:21 AM »
I have a feeling that Alabama will do a good job of making him somewhat of a non-factor. At least, not as much of a factor as he has been in some games. I hope I'm right.

No see, hash...Honey badger.
nevermind.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 11:09:16 AM »
LSU played Oregon.  Have you seen them?  They're just so fast.

I tried to watch, but Oregon's players just kept disappearing and reappearing at random spots on the field as they continuously went warp 2.  You know that's why they lost.  As they went faster time for them slowed down.  So the game ended in our time speed while the Oregon players were still in the 1st quarter.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 11:18:33 AM »
I tried to watch, but Oregon's players just kept disappearing and reappearing at random spots on the field as they continuously went warp 2.  You know that's why they lost.  As they went faster time for them slowed down.  So the game ended in our time speed while the Oregon players were still in the 1st quarter.
And Les Miles' clock management theories play right into this strategy as well.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 11:38:08 AM »
I tried to watch, but Oregon's players just kept disappearing and reappearing at random spots on the field as they continuously went warp 2.  You know that's why they lost.  As they went faster time for them slowed down.  So the game ended in our time speed while the Oregon players were still in the 1st quarter.

Exactly.  It was weird.


They're just so fast
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 11:57:33 AM »
Best ever?  Try 4 TD's allowed the entire season.


Date  Opponent  Result
Sep 28, 1957  at  Tennessee  W  7 - 0 
Oct 5, 1957  vs  Chattanooga  W  40 - 7 
Oct 12, 1957  vs  Kentucky  W  6 - 0 
Oct 19, 1957  at  Georgia Tech  W  3 - 0 
Oct 26, 1957  at  Houston  W  48 - 7 
Nov 2, 1957  vs  Florida  W  13 - 0 
Nov 9, 1957  vs  Mississippi State  W  15 - 7 
Nov 16, 1957  at  Georgia  W  6 - 0 
Nov 23, 1957  at  Florida State  W  29 - 7 
Nov 30, 1957  vs  Alabama  W  40 - 0 

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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 12:10:55 PM »
Best ever?  Try 4 TD's allowed the entire season.


Date  Opponent  Result
Sep 28, 1957  at  Tennessee  W  7 - 0 
Oct 5, 1957  vs  Chattanooga  W  40 - 7 
Oct 12, 1957  vs  Kentucky  W  6 - 0 
Oct 19, 1957  at  Georgia Tech  W  3 - 0 
Oct 26, 1957  at  Houston  W  48 - 7 
Nov 2, 1957  vs  Florida  W  13 - 0 
Nov 9, 1957  vs  Mississippi State  W  15 - 7 
Nov 16, 1957  at  Georgia  W  6 - 0 
Nov 23, 1957  at  Florida State  W  29 - 7 
Nov 30, 1957  vs  Alabama  W  40 - 0

Pfft...that's nothing compared to the 1992 2009 2011 version of the Tide D.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 12:22:19 PM »
     In 1964 Arkansas finished the regular season with 5 straight shutouts, and only gave up 57 for the year.  They held Nebraska to 7 in the Cotton Bowl
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 12:40:49 PM »
     In 1964 Arkansas finished the regular season with 5 straight shutouts, and only gave up 57 for the year.  They held Nebraska to 7 in the Cotton Bowl

Pffftt...you know Nebraska was down that year.  Plus, their long snapper was suspended for the Cotton Bowl.
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Re: Which Defense is the "Real Deal"...uat's or LSU's?
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 12:48:02 PM »
Pfft...that's nothing compared to the 1992 2009 2011 version of the Tide D.

Exactly... As soon as I sift through the many "Bama's Back" SI cover issues, we'll have some ammo!
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