Aggies notify Big 12 they intend to ‘explore options’ on league front

The obvious answer here is the SEC will pick up a school to fit in the East division. No way will any current SEC schools agree to bust any long traditions. Bama ain't going without Auburn and Tennessee. Way too much money in those games. But honestly, would it be so bad if Auburn was moved to the east and only played Bama during rotating years? I don't want to see it, but I believe many in this state need a break from the series. Plus, it would be friggin sweet for Bama and Auburn to meet in the SEC championship game.

Also, since it's going to happen, I think A&M is a good fit. They have a history with LSU and Arkansas, so it's not like we're bringing in a school who's rarely played SEC teams in the past.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #87 on:** September 07, 2011, 06:46:00 PM »

Quote from: Token on September 07, 2011, 06:23:07 PM

The obvious answer here is the SEC will pick up a school to fit in the East division. No way will any current SEC schools agree to bust any long traditions. Bama ain't going without Auburn and Tennessee. Way too much money in those games. But honestly, would it be so bad if Auburn was moved to the east and only played Bama during rotating years? I don't want to see it, but I believe many in this state need a break from the series. Plus, it would be friggin sweet for Bama and Auburn to meet in the SEC championship game.

Also, since it's going to happen, I think A&M is a good fit. They have a history with LSU and Arkansas, so it's not like we're bringing in a school who's rarely played SEC teams in the past.

This....all of it. I would hate losing the yearly Iron Bowl too but damn, it's getting more out of hand every year. And what would the ATL be like if these two met for the marbles?

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #88 on:** September 07, 2011, 07:37:26 PM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on September 07, 2011, 06:46:00 PM

And what would the ATL be like if these two met for the marbles?

That is what it would look like.

jmar · « **Reply #89 on:** September 07, 2011, 07:52:11 PM »

A small X

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #90 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:13:28 PM »

Quote from: jmar on September 07, 2011, 07:52:11 PM

A small X

It werks fer me?

jmar · « **Reply #91 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:38:48 PM »

Quote from: Vandy Vol on September 07, 2011, 08:13:28 PM

It werks fer me?

So is the A&M move on hold, dead in the water or what? Was listening to Finebaum and this guest of his named Billy Lucci comes on weekly and says absolutely nothing on the subject that one can't get from ESPN updates.

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #92 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:50:30 PM »

Quote from: jmar on September 07, 2011, 08:38:48 PM

So is the A&M move on hold, dead in the water or what? Was listening to Finebaum and this guest of his named Billy Lucci comes on weekly and says absolutely nothing on the subject that one can't get from ESPN updates.

The Big 12 commissioner told the SEC that they'd have to get waivers from each individual school, and that he "regrets" having initially told them that they were free to accept A&M.

The SEC hasn't issued any statements, and probably won't for a day or two, so there's no update to my knowledge.

The Prowler · « **Reply #93 on:** September 07, 2011, 11:14:58 PM »

Beebee told Slive that the SEC didn't need waivers from the Big 12-2 Institutions and that they could accept aTm into the SEC without lawsuits from the other schools...then about a week later said that he made a mistake and that they did need the okay from each individual institution. Now Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State and I think Iowa State are looking to sue the SEC if the deal goes through (notice anything about those schools looking to sue...they all suck and just rake in Big 12 $$$ without contributing much.) I say, sue the SEC...the Big 12 Commish already stated that it was okay to accept them. Oh yeah, Beebee emailed the SEC his mistake the night of their voting...last night.

BZ770 · « **Reply #94 on:** September 07, 2011, 11:21:10 PM »

Why would it not be possible for Auburn to move to the East, and the SEC make the rule change to 2 historical rivalries. We would gain old rivals Florida and Tenn. Play UGA every year since they would be in our division. We could have Bama as yearly rival and pick another team my pick LSU.

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #95 on:** September 07, 2011, 11:44:32 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on September 07, 2011, 11:14:58 PM

I say, sue the SEC...the Big 12 Commish already stated that it was okay to accept them. Oh yeah, Beebee emailed the SEC his mistake the night of their voting...last night.

Well, it's not clear that the SEC would win in such a lawsuit. Sure, they had a letter from Beebe which indicated that they were free to accept A&M. But, the question is whether Beebe has the authority to speak or act on behalf of the universities.

Based upon the fact that he is now stating that the SEC needs waivers from each individual school, then I'm assuming each university's contractual relationship with the Big 12 and Beebe does not allow the Big 12 or Beebe to speak for the universities on some issues, such as whether they will waive their right to legal action.

So, essentially, the SEC would have a letter from Beebe, and the SEC would argue that this was a contractual agreement. However, without the authority to act as an agent on behalf of each university, Beebe's "agreement" with the SEC can not be enforced by a court of law.

Of course, all of this is conjecture about the actual terms of the Big 12's agreement with its member universities. Beebe may very well be able to waive the universities' right to sue under their contractual relationship, but I doubt it given Baylor's actions and Beebe's response.

The Prowler · « **Reply #96 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:37:48 AM »

Quote from: Vandy Vol on September 07, 2011, 11:44:32 PM

Well, it's not clear that the SEC would win in such a lawsuit. Sure, they had a letter from Beebe which indicated that they were free to accept A&M. But, the question is whether Beebe has the authority to speak or act on behalf of the universities.

Based upon the fact that he is now stating that the SEC needs waivers from each individual school, then I'm assuming each university's contractual relationship with the Big 12 and Beebe does not allow the Big 12 or Beebe to speak for the universities on some issues, such as whether they will waive their right to legal action.

So, essentially, the SEC would have a letter from Beebe, and the SEC would argue that this was a contractual agreement. However, without the authority to act as an agent on behalf of each university, Beebe's "agreement" with the SEC can not be enforced by a court of law.

Of course, all of this is conjecture about the actual terms of the Big 12's agreement with its member universities. Beebe may very well be able to waive the universities' right to sue under their contractual relationship, but I doubt it given Baylor's actions and Beebe's response.

jmar · « **Reply #97 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:12:23 AM »

Thx

, the Mr. Bigg clip cleared it all up for me.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #98 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:20:50 AM »

Quote from: Vandy Vol on September 07, 2011, 11:44:32 PM

Well, it's not clear that the SEC would win in such a lawsuit. Sure, they had a letter from Beebe which indicated that they were free to accept A&M. But, the question is whether Beebe has the authority to speak or act on behalf of the universities.

I'd say that the SEC has a pretty strong "apparent authority" defense. One would be reasonably justified in relying upon the statement of the commissioner of the conference. Estoppel FTW!

The commissioner should know what's what before he opens his dirty whore mouth.

All that said: keep the fAggies in Texas. I like my conference just the way it is.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #99 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:23:51 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on September 08, 2011, 10:20:50 AM

I'd say that the SEC has a pretty strong "apparent authority" defense. One would be reasonably justified in relying upon the statement of the commissioner of the conference. Estoppel FTW!

The commissioner should know what's what before he opens his dirty whore mouth.

All that said: keep the fAggies in Texas. I like my conference just the way it is.

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