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Spongebob is Ruining Our Youth!

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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2011, 02:56:31 PM »
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Re: Spongebob is Ruining Our Youth!
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2011, 02:57:47 PM »
Every cartoon has music...AND you had no idea what it was when you were originally watching it.  Kind of an invalid argument.

The argument is perfectly valid, for me at least.  I realize I am admitting my total geekness here, and flame away if you must, but I read Hamilton's Mythology (the college text) when I was 8, could tell you all about the Greco Roman and Norse gods and goddesses, and preferred classical music to regular radio until around 9th grade.  So yeah, maybe not when I was actually 4, but by the time I was in middle school I loved the cartoon music so much that I borrowed the vinyl from the library.  Looney Tunes was one of the few to use actual, well known classical music pieces as opposed to a musical score written for that actual cartoon.

To me, something is still educational if it inspires a child to want to find out more about a topic.  I loved Rabbit of Seville so much, I wanted to hear the original work.  If my son wants to find out more about dinosaurs because he saw a dinosaur cartoon, then that's a good thing. 

I let the kids watch all the Looney tunes they want, and then in the car on the way to school, I play some of the classical pieces they have heard.  My 4 year old asks for "the cannon song" (1812 Overture) and the "Run really Fast Song" ("the Toreadors" from Carmen) and the "dancing lady song (The Can Can from Orpheus) and "the bumblebee song". 
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2011, 02:59:04 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2011, 04:12:26 PM »
My 6 year old only watches Tom and Jerry.  At first I thought it was because he was going to be the coolest kid in his school.  Now I realize it's only because of the violence, which will probably make him the meanest kid in his school.

My 10 year old still loves Dragon Ball Z Kai.  I worry about that one.
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2011, 04:28:41 PM »
My 6 year old only watches Tom and Jerry.  At first I thought it was because he was going to be the coolest kid in his school.  Now I realize it's only because of the violence, which will probably make him the meanest kid in his school.

My 10 year old still loves Dragon Ball Z Kai.  I worry about that one.

My boy loves all that Japanese stuff.  I swear if that mess was on when I was 10, I think I'd turn it off.  Horrible.  My kid gets so mad at me because every time he has it on, I walk through doing my best bubbed over Japanese movie voice....

Ha, I see that your powers have improved since we last met however you were not aware that I have been training with the Shing Master Hiku and I have channeled the fire power and I will defeat you now.

DAAAAADDD...shut up.  Go away.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2011, 04:30:37 PM »
My 6 year old only watches Tom and Jerry.  At first I thought it was because he was going to be the coolest kid in his school.  Now I realize it's only because of the violence, which will probably make him the meanest kid in his school.

My 10 year old still loves Dragon Ball Z Kai.  I worry about that one.

Pardon me for being out of the loop on cartoons, but what the hell is that?

Also, do the looney toons or cartoon express come on anymore.  I have seen Hong Kong Phooey on the guide, but none of the others like Quick Draw McGraw or Huckleberry Hound.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2011, 04:36:12 PM »
Pardon me for being out of the loop on cartoons, but what the hell is that?

Also, do the looney toons or cartoon express come on anymore.  I have seen Hong Kong Phooey on the guide, but none of the others like Quick Draw McGraw or Huckleberry Hound.

I bought one of the Looney Toons DVD sets a few years ago.  Not kidding, when you hit play, you get a public service announcement from Whoopie Goldberg, saying that the cartoons presented could be racist, and you should think about showing them to your kids.
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2011, 04:37:09 PM »
I bought one of the Looney Toons DVD sets a few years ago.  Not kidding, when you hit play, you get a public service announcement from Whoopie Goldberg, saying that the cartoons presented could be racist, and you should think about showing them to your kids.

What....The....F???
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2011, 04:38:35 PM »
Also, do the looney toons or cartoon express come on anymore.  I have seen Hong Kong Phooey on the guide, but none of the others like Quick Draw McGraw or Huckleberry Hound.

That Japanese stuff is so beyond horrible.

And yes, Boomerang Channel carries Quick Draw and Huckleberry and Flinstones and Jetsons and Snagglepuss (the original one, not our caring lawyer).  My kids love all of those, plus Tom and Jerry.  To me, the violence in Road Runner and stuff is so "obviously fake" that kids don't internalize it like sword fighting and stuff.  I seriously doubt any kid thinks they can drop a boulder on their head and turn into an accordian.
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Re: Spongebob is Ruining Our Youth!
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2011, 04:40:56 PM »
I bought one of the Looney Toons DVD sets a few years ago.  Not kidding, when you hit play, you get a public service announcement from Whoopie Goldberg, saying that the cartoons presented could be racist, and you should think about showing them to your kids.

That is on the DVDs of Popeye and Betty Boop and Casper the Friendly Ghost too.  It's not Whoopie but there is an announcement at the beginning that says parents may find some content objectionable because public perceptions or some such were very different when these cartoons were made.  Popeye used to fight the Japs and the Krauts and some of the Looney Tunes did Cowboys and Wild Injuns... and then there's that chollo Speedy Gonzales... well... harumph harumph...
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2011, 04:42:58 PM »
That Japanese stuff is so beyond horrible.

And yes, Boomerang Channel carries Quick Draw and Huckleberry and Flinstones and Jetsons and Snagglepuss (the original one, not our caring lawyer).  My kids love all of those, plus Tom and Jerry.  To me, the violence in Road Runner and stuff is so "obviously fake" that kids don't internalize it like sword fighting and stuff.  I seriously doubt any kid thinks they can drop a boulder on their head and turn into an accordian.

Good to know, I like Snagglepuss, especially that video he sent me of him dancing around in his.......wait, I mean that was a great cartoon!
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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2011, 04:43:06 PM »
What....The....F???

Here it is...

[embed=425,349]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQz5-Q5dl4[/embed]
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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2011, 05:07:07 PM »
Here it is...

[embed=425,349]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQz5-Q5dl4[/embed]

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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2011, 07:42:05 PM »
That is on the DVDs of Popeye and Betty Boop and Casper the Friendly Ghost too.  It's not Whoopie but there is an announcement at the beginning that says parents may find some content objectionable because public perceptions or some such were very different when these cartoons were made.  Popeye used to fight the Japs and the Krauts and some of the Looney Tunes did Cowboys and Wild Injuns... and then there's that chollo Speedy Gonzales... well... harumph harumph...

But the fucking Disney channel and ABC Family are ok?
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2011, 09:47:30 AM »
Song of the South can only be purchased through Japanese distributors.

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Re: Spongebob is Ruining Our Youth!
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2011, 10:33:03 AM »
Here it is...

[embed=425,349]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQz5-Q5dl4[/embed]

I actually thought that was well done. If it had to be done, this is the way to present it.
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Re: Spongebob is Ruining Our Youth!
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2011, 10:56:32 AM »
The argument is perfectly valid, for me at least.  I realize I am admitting my total geekness here, and flame away if you must, but I read Hamilton's Mythology (the college text) when I was 8, could tell you all about the Greco Roman and Norse gods and goddesses, and preferred classical music to regular radio until around 9th grade.  So yeah, maybe not when I was actually 4, but by the time I was in middle school I loved the cartoon music so much that I borrowed the vinyl from the library.  Looney Tunes was one of the few to use actual, well known classical music pieces as opposed to a musical score written for that actual cartoon.

To me, something is still educational if it inspires a child to want to find out more about a topic.  I loved Rabbit of Seville so much, I wanted to hear the original work.  If my son wants to find out more about dinosaurs because he saw a dinosaur cartoon, then that's a good thing. 

I let the kids watch all the Looney tunes they want, and then in the car on the way to school, I play some of the classical pieces they have heard.  My 4 year old asks for "the cannon song" (1812 Overture) and the "Run really Fast Song" ("the Toreadors" from Carmen) and the "dancing lady song (The Can Can from Orpheus) and "the bumblebee song".
Stop bragging, you is smart.
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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2011, 11:30:17 AM »
I used to watch some of the original Japanese stuff (Speed Racer and Voltron were both Japanese).  I caught an old Voltron on Boomerang and thought to myself how crappy it seems now.  I kind of new Speed Racer was crap when I was a little kid, but it was a cartoon and therefore my duty to watch it.
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