Official Bag Man Thread

[Townhallsavoy]

When?  Can someone provide a link? 

Can anyone out there please provide one shred of evidence of Danny Sheridan being right about anything concerning NCAA violations? 

Just curious.  I've heard that Danny is THE source and is rarely wrong about the NCAA.  What has he broken?  What news has he exploded onto the scene to shake the foundation of college football? 

[Townhallsavoy]

http://outkickthecoverage.com/danny-sheridan-doesnt-really-believe-his-cam-newtoncecil-newton-source.php

DANNY SHERIDAN DOESN'T REALLY BELIEVE HIS CAM NEWTON/CECIL NEWTON SOURCE
Published on: August 17, 2011 | Written by: Clay Travis
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Today USA Today odds expert Danny Sheridan appeared on Paul Finebaum's radio show to talk in greater detail about the Tweet he sent out this weekend. Sheridan tweeted: "I've been told the name of the person the NCAA feels allegedly paid Cecil Newton & where witness is. more when on Finebaum this week." From here speculation ran rampant, would Sheridan actually name the individual on Finebaums show? Next Finebaum tweeted that Danny Sheridan would be on at two central on Wednesday. The college football world turned its gaze to Paul Finebaum's radio show. Danny Sheridan stepped up to the mic and said this: "Yes, I have been told the name. No sir I will not give you the name."

Why would Sheridan not give the name? Because, "If I gave the name, I would be sued."

Sheridan then trotted out his attorney who said that Sheridan had told him the name, but that he had advised Sheridan not to say the name to avoid a lawsuit.

The only problem is this: Danny Sheridan can't hide behind the law here. If Sheridan actually had any confidence in the name he'd been given -- "'My sources are at the NCAA and friends of the NCAA." -- he wouldn't be worried about a lawsuit and I'll tell you why.

1. Truth is an absolute defense to any defamation lawsuit.

If Danny Sheridan is telling the truth when he names the individual who paid Cecil Newton then there is no basis for a lawsuit. Hiding behind being sued is a child-like legal defense, what it really means is that Sheridan doesn't trust his sources enough to put his money where his mouth is.

2. If he actually paid someone off, the individual who paid Cecil Newton wouldn't sue.

Why? Because he'd be subject to deposition and discovery. If Sheridan is telling the truth the best thing that could happen to him is being sued. Then the alleged payor would have to go under oath in a deposition and open himself up to perjury charges if it was proven he lied. (See Clemens, Roger). Any lawyer worth his salt would tell a client with a shady past not to sue.

What's more, by suing that payor would open up his entire relationship with Auburn to review. So what if he didn't pay Cam Newton, he might be forced to admit to paying someone else under oath to avoid a perjury charge. This is the reason why you almost never see lawsuits filed in NCAA related matters. Because the people who would sue have way too many skeletons in their closet to hide.

3. Sheridan could protect his sources in the event of a lawsuit.

He's a journalist. Look at Judith Miller of the New York Times, who spent months in prison rather than reveal her sources. Why did she do that? Because she told her sources she would keep them anonymous. That's a promise that good and honest journalists make.

If Sheridan isn't willing to go to jail to keep his sources anonymity, then, to be frank, those sources shouldn't be talking with him.

4. Why isn't USA Today demanding this story?

Look at the site traffic to Yahoo Sports for its piece on Miami. Great reporting and breaking news stories pay off with astounding numbers of readers. If Sheridan really had the goods on Auburn, don't you think -- as Andy Staples of Sports Illustrated asked me on Twitter -- USA Today would be furious at Danny Sheridan for breaking the news on Paul Finebaum's radio show and giving Finebaum the benefit of the resulting news crash?

This would be the biggest sports story USA Today had broken this year. Maybe, forever. (Note: I haven no idea what major sports stories USA Today has broken because I don't read its newspaper).

5. Note that Danny Sheridan keeps agreeing to be polygraphed on this story.

But that's a red herring.

Because he's agreeing to be polygraphed about what someone else told him. "I'm telling you the truth, I swear to it," Sheridan keeps exhorting on the radio. "I'm willing to take a polygraph test. If you want to bet me a hundred grand? I'll pass it," Sheridan said today.

Well, big deal. All Sheridan's swearing to is that someone gave him a name of an individual who paid off Cecil Newton. Passing a polygraph about that is no big deal. All he's proving is that he's not making up a name out of thin air.

See, I can play that game too.

Elvis paid Cecil Newton.

Now y'all can all pass a polygraph about who paid Cecil Newton as well. 

See how faulty this logic is? Sheridan's polygraph argument proves nothing.

6. Does this mean that Cecil Newton didn't get paid?

Of course not.

Cecil Newton probably did get paid. But all Danny Sheridan has confirmed with us is that he's not confident in his source. If he was confident in his source then he'd say the name. Truth would be his defense in the event of suit.   

And if the payor did sue then Sheridan's lawyers would be able to depose him in rigorous detail about Cam and Cecil Newton. His phone and bank records would be subject to discovery. Hiding behind the fear of a lawsuit is pure and complete crap. If you really have the goods in the situation I'll say it again, getting sued is the best thing that could happen to you.

Today Sheridan said, "I don't give a rat's ass about getting it first."

Wrong. If he didn't give a rat's ass about getting it first then he wouldn't have gone on Paul Finebaum's show multiple times and bragged about his sources and his story. All Danny Sheridan has proven to us is that three weeks after he alleged that the NCAA had found a bag man in the Cam Newton case, he doesn't really trust his sources.

Hiding behind the law does nothing to change this.

It's a fact.

Don't believe me? Plug me up to a polygraph machine too. I'll pass. 

[Kaos]

Dammit.  Lemack is over. 

I was going to lie about knee problems due to working out to get on.

Then tell Larry I have a friend who shoved his foot so far into his mouth his big toe is sticking out his asshole. Let's call him Danny. 

[Townhallsavoy]

Dammit.  Lemack is over. 

I was going to lie about knee problems due to working out to get on.

Then tell Larry I have a friend who shoved his foot so far into his mouth his big toe is sticking out his asshole. Let's call him Danny.

This would have been caller of the year.

[Kaos]

Unreal.

Now fuckbum hints that he knows the name.

And that refusing to answer a question implies a positive response. 

So when T-Town Tom wouldn't talk to scarbinsky that is an admission of guilt?

[JR4AU]

Unreal.

Now fuckbum hints that he knows the name.

And that refusing to answer a question implies a positive response. 

So when T-Town Tom wouldn't talk to scarbinsky that is an admission of guilt?

Here's what went down...

At media days, Danny boy let slip the "bagman" rumor he'd heard.  Even back then he said "maybe I shouldn't have said bagman".  But, he got ripped by some members of the press.  He later came back on Fbomb, and said "I hope to have a name within 2 weeks, and I may or may not reveal it, and I'll bet you 7 figures I'm telling the truth.".  So Danny, you want me to bet against you having hope of obtaining information?  Of course you have hope.  How do I win that bet?  But, a bit of amateur psychoanalysis would tell you that his wording belied the fact that he already had the name, and knew it was only a rumor.   That the ribbing he took from others got in his ego-maniacal head so badly that he set out to confirm the rumor out of spite.  He as much as said so a couple of weeks ago.  In the end, he could not, and you get the end result today. 

And then the typical spin Fbomb tries to put on it about how "the real story is the NCAA knows who the bagman is".  Whore shit!  Danny doesn't know shit, and doesn't have a clue what the NCAA knows.   Nobody in Indy is feeding him information.  If the NCAA were investigating Auburn, and they may be...we know they have...and Danny put it out that he had a source inside feeding him info, the NCAA would have taken steps to plug the leak...to find out who the fuck was fucking up their investigation from the inside.   

How many more of these "high profile bammers" will be willing to step up, cry wolf, and give the mullet nation hope that Auburn will be crushed, only to be laughed off the air, excoriated in the press, and even fired from their jobs?  How long will bammers hang their hopes on tapes, rumors of bagmen, phone taps being made public by the FBI, information on Auburn cheating coming out in a completely unrelated trial?   How long will Finebaum twist words, spin substance from nothingness, and find hidden meaning and back-stories in the damn lies told by idiots like Scott Moore and Danny Sheridan? 

[Townhallsavoy]

How many more of these "high profile bammers" will be willing to step up, cry wolf, and give the mullet nation hope that Auburn will be crushed, only to be laughed off the air, excoriated in the press, and even fired from their jobs?  How long will bammers hang their hopes on tapes, rumors of bagmen, phone taps being made public by the FBI, information on Auburn cheating coming out in a completely unrelated trial?   How long will Finebaum twist words, spin substance from nothingness, and find hidden meaning and back-stories in the damn lies told by idiots like Scott Moore and Danny Sheridan?

Until their backs are against the wall. 

[jmar]

When?  Can someone provide a link? 

Can anyone out there please provide one shred of evidence of Danny Sheridan being right about anything concerning NCAA violations? 

Just curious.  I've heard that Danny is THE source and is rarely wrong about the NCAA.  What has he broken?  What news has he exploded onto the scene to shake the foundation of college football?

Look he swore on his mothers grave. You have to believe him.

[JR4AU]

Look he swore on his mothers grave. You have to believe him.

He absolutely told the truth.  He swore he had hope of obtaining the name. 

[JR4AU]

If only Danny had gone here.  He could have had a name of "the bag man", and told it truthfully!

[jmar]

He absolutely told the truth.  He swore he had hope of obtaining the name.

There is only one thing left to do.
The Finebaum Radio Network has to raise six figures to complete the stunt.

[jordanharehaint]

Look he swore on his mothers grave. You have to believe him.

When he swore on his parents' graves, I found myself wondering if they were even dead.

[Jumbo]

Danny doesn't know shit, that pretty much sums up his entire time on the show.

[JR4AU]

Danny doesn't know shit, that pretty much sums up his entire time on the show.

I don't guess it matters too much because many just believe what they want to believe, evidence be damned.  However, the more this kind of thing takes place, the more it serves to prove there just isn't anything out there other than rumor innuendo, and supposition.  It furthermore serves to prove how desperate some quarters are to make shit up to prove what they already want to believe.  "I know the name of the bagman, I'm just not gonna say, nanny nanny boo boo!"  "Paul, I really do know, my lawyer said not to say though, so you'll be sure to tell everybody how great and wonderful I am after I leave."

[The Six]

JR is right. Here's the latest from one of the lead Bammers from the old Tide Sports:

The barners need to understand that being really good at cheating and being innocent are two totally different things.

At this point, we don't really know if history will prove them to be really good cheaters or not but there's one thing we and the rest of the CFB world do know and that's that they're NOT innocent.

They need to be continually reminded of that fact or they're going to soon find comfort in their cheating lives and actually be able to enjoy last season's accomplishments. We can't allow that to happen.

We have to make sure that they can never fool themselves into believing that what they did was OK. We have to make sure that anytime they look at that trophy, that fog of doubt clouds their minds.

We have to make sure that they never forget...they're just Auburn and nothing more.

There's your answer as to who and what is behind all of this. Unlike Danny Sheridan would have you believe, it's a lot more than .01% too. This is the majority opinion of the Capstone from the officials to the sidewalks. They all "know" Auburn cheated and they will never let Auburn enjoy the success without sling mud. That's how it goes at Alabama. If they can't have it, no one can. Jealous much?

[Vandy Vol]

[JR4AU]

JR is right. Here's the latest from one of the lead Bammers from the old Tide Sports:

There's your answer as to who and what is behind all of this. Unlike Danny Sheridan would have you believe, it's a lot more than .01% too. This is the majority opinion of the Capstone from the officials to the sidewalks. They all "know" Auburn cheated and they will never let Auburn enjoy the success without sling mud. That's how it goes at Alabama. If they can't have it, no one can. Jealous much?

Its that kind of whining, crying, and fit throwing that makes it so much more enjoyable.   ROFLMFAO

[djsimp]

^This!

[Vandy Vol]

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[AUChizad]

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