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« Reply #120 on: July 07, 2011, 06:43:07 PM »
Is the baby dead? 

Dead baby = Evidence

Of what?  The mortality rate in U.S. states with an average annual rainfall of 40" or more?
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« Reply #121 on: July 08, 2011, 12:22:48 AM »
Of what?  The mortality rate in U.S. states with an average annual rainfall of 40" or more?

Right. 

Because everybody in all 50 states duct tapes the airways of their children and hides them until they decompose to the point that there's not enough left to gather conclusive evidence as to the cause of death. 

That happens everywhere.   
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #122 on: July 08, 2011, 08:24:20 AM »


Because everybody in all 50 states duct tapes the airways of their children and hides them until they decompose to the point that there's not enough left to gather conclusive evidence as to the cause of death. 


That's a lot of assumption crammed into one run-on sentence.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #123 on: July 08, 2011, 09:48:21 AM »
Because everybody in all 50 states duct tapes the airways of their children and hides them until they decompose to the point that there's not enough left to gather conclusive evidence as to the cause of death. 

I definitely understand the frustration and outrage with the verdict, but what you have stated above does not establish that the bitch kunt did it.  Reading comments from the jury sealed it for me.  The evidence was all circumstantial.  There was no smoking gun.  There were no direct or conclusive ties to the bitch kunt.  Even the jurors admitted and believed that she probably did it, but that's not enough to convict.  The prosecution tried this as a capital offense.  They could have locked her up on lessor charges of neglect, criminal negligence and a host of other offenses according to the legal pundits, but they went for the career-maker.  They screwed up... 
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2011, 09:49:55 AM »
That's a lot of assumption crammed into one run-on sentence.

I try to get as much in there as possible.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2011, 09:52:32 AM »
I definitely understand the frustration and outrage with the verdict, but what you have stated above does not establish that the bitch kunt did it.  Reading comments from the jury sealed it for me.  The evidence was all circumstantial. There was no smoking gun.  There were no direct or conclusive ties to the bitch kunt. Even the jurors admitted and believed that she probably did it, but that's not enough to convict.  The prosecution tried this as a capital offense.  They could have locked her up on lessor charges of neglect, criminal negligence and a host of other offenses according to the legal pundits, but they went for the career-maker.  They screwed up...

And THAT is the CSI:Miami effect. 

There doesn't HAVE to be a smoking gun.  You don't HAVE to have video of the person doing it, DNA proving beyond a shadow of a doubt who was there.  It doesn't HAVE to be cut and dried. 

If that were the case, there would be..... wait..... NO NEED FOR JURIES!

Jury is supposed to view the available evidence (which is circumstantial as much as not) and make a decision. 

What I hear is that these stupid fucks heard the evidence, made a decision but wanted somebody to give them a video of the child's death before they could render the decision they'd come to. 

If nobody is going to be convicted unless there is infallible proof -- and since video can be faked, DNA can be read in error -- I guess we shouldn't convict anybody ever again. 
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #126 on: July 08, 2011, 10:06:09 AM »
And THAT is the CSI:Miami effect. 

There doesn't HAVE to be a smoking gun.  You don't HAVE to have video of the person doing it, DNA proving beyond a shadow of a doubt who was there.  It doesn't HAVE to be cut and dried. 

If that were the case, there would be..... wait..... NO NEED FOR JURIES!

Jury is supposed to view the available evidence (which is circumstantial as much as not) and make a decision. 

What I hear is that these stupid fucks heard the evidence, made a decision but wanted somebody to give them a video of the child's death before they could render the decision they'd come to. 

If nobody is going to be convicted unless there is infallible proof -- and since video can be faked, DNA can be read in error -- I guess we shouldn't convict anybody ever again.
True enough, but the same holds true for the defense as well. They don't have to have anything iron-clad for an acquittal, either. Every jury has a different idea of reasonable doubt. Personally, I think the bitch did it.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #127 on: July 08, 2011, 01:03:42 PM »
And THAT is the CSI:Miami effect. 

There doesn't HAVE to be a smoking gun.  You don't HAVE to have video of the person doing it, DNA proving beyond a shadow of a doubt who was there.  It doesn't HAVE to be cut and dried. 

If that were the case, there would be..... wait..... NO NEED FOR JURIES!

Jury is supposed to view the available evidence (which is circumstantial as much as not) and make a decision. 

What I hear is that these stupid fucks heard the evidence, made a decision but wanted somebody to give them a video of the child's death before they could render the decision they'd come to. 

If nobody is going to be convicted unless there is infallible proof -- and since video can be faked, DNA can be read in error -- I guess we shouldn't convict anybody ever again.

I don't think that this particular case had anything to do with the CSI effect.

There was no known cause of death.  You can't prove murder unless you know the cause of death was intentional.  The DNA wasn't "read in error;" there simply wasn't any DNA that could tie Casey Anthony to the body.  So even if you assume that the child died due to murder, you can't show that she's the one who murdered the child.

It's not that the evidence pointed to Casey Anthony somewhat, but that it wasn't cut and dry enough for the jury.  None of the evidence available could even determine that it was a murder, much less who did it.  My understanding is that it wasn't a lack of certainty or infallibility with the evidence.  It was simply that there was no evidence, CSI caliber or not, which indicated that she was involved.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #128 on: July 08, 2011, 02:39:38 PM »
I think it was proven that the little girl was killed, just can't prove that Casey did it.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #129 on: July 08, 2011, 03:08:30 PM »
I think it was proven that the little girl was killed

How did she die?
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« Reply #130 on: July 08, 2011, 03:09:14 PM »
How did she die?

Lack of oxygen to the brain.
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« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2011, 03:11:02 PM »
Lack of oxygen to the brain.

How do you know?

Was there medical evidence?  Were the brain and pulmonary system autopsied?

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« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2011, 03:12:19 PM »
How do you know?

Was there medical evidence?  Were the brain and pulmonary system autopsied?

My understanding is that's the leading cause in the death of anyone.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2011, 03:13:03 PM »
My understanding is that's the leading cause in the death of anyone.

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« Reply #134 on: July 08, 2011, 03:14:21 PM »
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #135 on: July 08, 2011, 03:31:24 PM »
How did she die?

I don't know. My guess is by the use of chloroform. I know this much, a kid don't die by accident and then you bury the child in the woods like an animal. I know it can't be proven but everything about Casey Anthony, and even maybe her mom and dad, tells me she did it.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #136 on: July 08, 2011, 03:36:53 PM »
My understanding is that's the leading cause in the death of anyone.

In the past year, over 800,000 Americans have died. Despite millions of dollars of research, death continues to be our nation's number one killer.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #137 on: July 08, 2011, 03:37:32 PM »
I don't know.

Without a cause of death, you can't claim that it was murder.

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My guess is by the use of chloroform.

I hope that people are not getting sentenced to death on guesses.

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I know this much, a kid don't die by accident and then you bury the child in the woods like an animal.

Who buried the child in the woods?  What evidence establishes the identity of that person?
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #138 on: July 08, 2011, 03:42:15 PM »
Without a cause of death, you can't claim that it was murder.

I hope that people are not getting sentenced to death on guesses.

Who buried the child in the woods?  What evidence establishes the identity of that person?

No you can't sentence someone on guesses. This my opinion only. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure they have established that the remains they found in the woods were that of Caley Anthony. As for who buried the child, thats the 10 mill question. Whomever it was needs to suffer old school style.
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Re: Casey Anthony Contempt
« Reply #139 on: July 08, 2011, 03:45:08 PM »
No you can't sentence someone on guesses. This my opinion only. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure they have established that the remains they found in the woods were that of Caley Anthony. As for who buried the child, thats the 10 mill question. Whomever it was needs to suffer old school style.

I know that the body was Caylee.  I'm asking who put her there and what evidence identifies the person that put the body there?
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