Russell Wilson's arrived in....

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #20 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:21:48 PM »

Quote from: ssgaufan on May 24, 2011, 05:15:23 PM

So yall are ok with this shit of bringing in a hired gun for a one and done? It just feels dirty and it won't be long until we are known as rent a qb U.

Cam Newton?

Same thing with Caudle and Trotter.

Wilson is no Cam Newton.

But Caudle, Trotter, and Moseley are not winning SEC quarterbacks.

Wilson can provide instant experience and athletic ability.

This is very much a transition year as our defense is young, our o-line is young, and our running backs are young. Bring in Wilson to see if he can help us get 8 or 9 wins and then work towards 2012.

I don't see how it could hurt especially since we already have Frazier and Pike (presumably) in the bag.

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:27:08 PM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on May 24, 2011, 05:21:48 PM

Cam Newton?

Same thing with Caudle and Trotter.

Wilson is no Cam Newton.

But Caudle, Trotter, and Moseley are not winning SEC quarterbacks.

Wilson can provide instant experience and athletic ability.

This is very much a transition year as our defense is young, our o-line is young, and our running backs are young. Bring in Wilson to see if he can help us get 8 or 9 wins and then work towards 2012.

I don't see how it could hurt especially since we already have Frazier and Pike (presumably) in the bag.

This.

The Prowler · « **Reply #22 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:55:58 PM »

I'm going to change my stance a little on the Wilson situation, if it happens, I'm DEFINITELY down with it. It tells me that our Coaching Staff ain't gonna settle on "rebuilding year", they're ALL IN....So am I. I'm still not sure about him being successful against SEC defenses, but he does have more experience at QB than Chris Todd, Kodi Burns, Cam Newton, Neil Caudle, Barrett Trotter & Clint Moseley combined...so, that's a huge positive.

jmar · « **Reply #23 on:** May 24, 2011, 06:29:50 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 24, 2011, 05:55:58 PM

I'm going to change my stance a little on the Wilson situation, if it happens, I'm DEFINITELY down with it. It tells me that our Coaching Staff ain't gonna settle on "rebuilding year", they're ALL IN....So am I. I'm still not sure about him being successful against SEC defenses, but he does have more experience at QB than Chris Todd, Kodi Burns, Cam Newton, Neil Caudle, Barrett Trotter & Clint Moseley combined...so, that's a huge positive.

I'm changing my mind on the subject after hearing similar opinions on Finebaum from so-called AU alumni that negatively fueled what would have been an outstanding idea had it been Alabama checking Wilson out. I thought it might prove disruptive but if Gus Malzahn wants this guy I want him too.
That's all of the fucking persuasion I require.

The Prowler · « **Reply #24 on:** May 24, 2011, 07:51:46 PM »

The bammers aren't happy that Auburn could land Russell Wilson, their ringleader Paw is basically showing his hand by putting the "AU alum" tag on a couple callers that aren't happy about it. I'll say this, if Auburn is doing something to upset SPuat, then Auburn doing something right.

jmar · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2011, 08:24:53 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 24, 2011, 07:51:46 PM

The bammers aren't happy that Auburn could land Russell Wilson, their ringleader Paw is basically showing his hand by putting the "AU alum" tag on a couple callers that aren't happy about it. I'll say this, if Auburn is doing something to upset SPuat, then Auburn doing something right.

You know it's pretty special when the entire premise of Paw's show is about hating Auburn.
Finebaum and Friends is a more accurate title.

JR4AU · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2011, 09:32:49 AM »

Quote from: Jumbo on May 24, 2011, 05:07:35 PM

If a player's scared of competition they shouldn't be playing D1 football.

While true, there's also a thing called team chemistry, and the fact that the guys that have been on campus, have worked hard in THIS PROGRAM, WITH THESE TEAM MATES. Bringing in a guy that everyone knows is only good for one season, that has been playing in another program, and you have no idea how hard he's worked, or what kind of guy he is...it can have a negative effect. You never know how that will work out. It's dangerous. I've heard a few coaches talk about bringing in transfers and JCs. It's a risky business. You can't build for the long term that way. And yes, I know we've been recruiting well and that shouldn't be an issue, but just saying. The guys on the field, coaches and players, know if Trotter or Mosely have what it takes to play at this level. If they think either do, especially Trotter and Mosely, then bringing in this guy may not be dangerous. Everybody knew there was a void at QB last off season...Cam worked out. If that's the general feeling again this year, then this could work out too. Still, risky.

JR4AU · « **Reply #27 on:** May 25, 2011, 09:35:10 AM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on May 24, 2011, 05:21:48 PM

Cam Newton?

But Caudle, Trotter, and Moseley are not winning SEC quarterbacks.

Same was said about Todd. He performed well, and that team's shortcomings in 2009 were largely Defensive, not QB.

Bottom line: you have NO WAY to know that.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #28 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:01:25 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on May 25, 2011, 09:35:10 AM

Same was said about Todd. He performed well, and that team's shortcomings in 2009 were largely Defensive, not QB.

Bottom line: you have NO WAY to know that.

AWK · « **Reply #29 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:21:06 AM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on May 25, 2011, 10:01:25 AM

Have to agree...but, you can't compare Newton to Todd. It's not fair.

JR4AU · « **Reply #30 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:26:02 AM »

Quote from: AWK on May 25, 2011, 10:21:06 AM

Have to agree...but, you can't compare Newton to Todd. It's not fair.

Did someone compare Newton and Todd?

JR4AU · « **Reply #31 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:27:05 AM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on May 25, 2011, 10:01:25 AM

Yeah, what the fuck ever. No way in hell you can make any call on Trotter or Mosely.

AWK · « **Reply #32 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:27:59 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on May 25, 2011, 10:26:02 AM

Did someone compare Newton and Todd?

Not directly, but I was just sayin'.

JR4AU · « **Reply #33 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:36:08 AM »

Quote from: AWK on May 25, 2011, 10:27:59 AM

Not directly, but I was just sayin'.

Not even indirectly or by inference.

THS made the proclamation that Trotter and Mosely are not winning SEC QBs. I noted that the same was said about Todd prior to 2009, and they even had a body or work to use as evidence from 2008. He wound up setting AU passing records, and the offense was a top 15 offense. The team was mediocre, but Todd was effective.

JR4AU · « **Reply #34 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:38:01 AM »

And before someone tries to put words in my mouth and say I'm saying Todd or Moseley will be great...I'm not even remotely predicting that either. But it's stupid to proclaim a kid can't play, when he's never played a meaningful down in the SEC.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #35 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:41:57 AM »

I'm not sure if this says anything about Trotter/Mosely or not. Everything I've heard/read is that the coaches really like Trotter and are still reserved on Mosely's ability. Bottom line for me is we have two unproven QB's and a true freshman to work with in the SEC. If nothing else, this is insurance with having a pretty talented guy with tons of D1 experience on your roster. Like was said earlier, if the coaches want to give him a look, gotta' trust that. Maybe they aren't too comfortable facing this season with what they have.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #36 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:46:18 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on May 25, 2011, 10:38:01 AM

And before someone tries to put words in my mouth and say I'm saying Todd or Moseley will be great...I'm not even remotely predicting that either. But it's stupid to proclaim a kid can't play, when he's never played a meaningful down in the SEC.

I'm just going to go ahead and say it. After watching them both going against the green defense during the A-Day game, I can say that in my professional opinion Mosley will not take a meaningful snap unless something happens to Trotter.

JR4AU · « **Reply #37 on:** May 25, 2011, 10:47:43 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on May 25, 2011, 10:41:57 AM

I'm not sure if this says anything about Trotter/Mosely or not. Everything I've heard/read is that the coaches really like Trotter and are still reserved on Mosely's ability. Bottom line for me is we have two unproven QB's and a true freshman to work with in the SEC. If nothing else, this is insurance with having a pretty talented guy with tons of D1 experience on your roster. Like was said earlier, if the coaches want to give him a look, gotta' trust that. Maybe they aren't too comfortable facing this season with what they have.

I agree mostly, as long as it's pretty clear after spring that they weren't impressed with Trotter and Mosely.

JR4AU · « **Reply #38 on:** May 25, 2011, 11:06:29 AM »

Wilson's best season statistically was 2009.

224 Comp. 378 Att. 59.3% 3027Yds. 8.0 YPA 31TD 11Int 147.8 Rtg.

That was on a 5-7 ACC team that played the likes of Gardner Webb, Murray State, Wake Forrest and Duke to whom they lost!

His best season for wins was 9-4 (5-3 ACC) last season.

Kid's a good athlete, and may be better than what we have, who knows? But I wouldn't be all giddy about him off his body of work in the ACC.

JR4AU · « **Reply #39 on:** May 25, 2011, 11:12:24 AM »

And he has a limited body of work vs SEC defense. They opened vs SC in 2008 and 2009. 0-2. Lost 34-0, and 7-3.