Patrick Peterson Possibly Bought for $80k+

[Townhallsavoy]

Maybe the edited thread title will garner more attention....

Does the media do to LSU what it did to Auburn? 

Pretty much the same story.

Willie Lyles, a Texas-based football trainer who is under NCAA investigation after receiving $25,000 from Oregon, told Texas A&M it had to "beat" $80,000 if it wanted to sign star recruit Patrick Peterson in 2007, a former Texas A&M coach told ESPN on Wednesday.


Van Malone, the former cornerbacks coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station campus.


"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kid as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."


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A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kid as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark.'

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-- Van Malone, the former cornerbacks coach at Texas A&M, on Willie Lyles' demands for recruit Patrick Peterson

Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Now a junior, he has declared for the NFL draft and is the No. 1 player on ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper's Big Board.


Malone is the recruiting coordinator and defensive secondary coach at University of Tulsa. He said he told Lyles that A&M doesn't pay for football players. Malone added he told Patrick Peterson in a subsequent phone conversation that Lyles was trying to sell his services.


Neither Peterson nor Lyles could be reached Wednesday night. Peterson's father, Patrick Peterson Sr., said he remembers taking the visit with his son to Texas A&M.


Peterson Sr. described his son's visit to Texas A&M as a good trip. But he said he had a feeling his son would end up playing in the Southeastern Conference, not the Big 12. He said he had not heard any allegations that Lyles was asking schools for money for his son.


"This is my first time hearing this. This is a shocker," Peterson Sr. told ESPN. "It could have happened. It could have come out of [Lyles'] mouth, that's what happens. These guys try to make money on their own, they are kind of like escort services. That's what I call them, escort services."


Peterson Sr. said he has talked to Lyles at some football camps, but other than that, he said he has no relationship with Lyles. He said Lyles, when they've talked, is often asking him for information on players from Ely High School in Pompano Beach, Fla., which is his son's alma mater.


"It's like Cam Newton, same thing," Peterson Sr. said, referring to the Heisman Trophy winner and former Auburn quarterback whose father was found to have asked for up to $180,000 for Newton to play at Mississippi State. "These guys -- they are trying to get paid. You have to be careful who you talk to, who you deal with it. I just know him [Lyles] from the camps."


LSU officials could not be reached for comment. A Texas A&M spokesman said the university was unaware of Malone's comments about Lyles. Malone said he never told then-Texas A&M coach Dennis Franchione about Lyles' request because he planned to continue to recruit Peterson without going through Lyles.


Earlier, LSU officials confirmed the school paid $6,000 to Complete Scouting Services, a college recruiting firm that Lyles started early last year. An LSU spokesman said the school did receive a DVD from Lyles in exchange for the $6,000.


The NCAA is looking into Oregon's $25,000 payment to Lyles' firm and his involvement in the recruitment of running back Lache Seastrunk, of Temple, Texas, who ended up signing with the Ducks a few weeks before Oregon paid Complete Scouting Services. Oregon has confirmed it paid for Lyles' scouting service.


Peterson, who changed his last name from Johnson, was considered the top defensive back in the nation during his senior year in high school in 2007.

Kelly Naqi is an investigative reporter for ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6275253&campaign=rss&source=NCFHeadlines

[Jumbo]

To busy talking about $100 handshakes.

[Snaggletiger]

$80K???  Pffft.....Cam got $180K.  Patrick is a Cam want to be.

[War Eagle!!!]

"It's like Cam Newton, same thing," Peterson Sr. said, referring to the Heisman Trophy winner and former Auburn quarterback whose father was found to have asked for up to $180,000 for Newton to play at Mississippi State. "These guys -- they are trying to get paid. You have to be careful who you talk to, who you deal with it. I just know him [Lyles] from the camps."

They keep throwing that bolded part in. Am I wrong in my assessment that it did not happen like this? Has there been any proof that Cecil said, "Hey, I want $180k for my son."??

Serious question. Because it is presented as fact EVERYWHERE.

[JR4AU]

They keep throwing that bolded part in. Am I wrong in my assessment that it did not happen like this? Has there been any proof that Cecil said, "Hey, I want $180k for my son."??

Serious question. Because it is presented as fact EVERYWHERE.

No, it's not a fact, it's an assumption that is out there, and wide spread.  The parties agreed to facts that say he and Kenny Rogers "worked together".  It doesn't say who approached who, or who first floated the idea of getting money for Cam.  The assumption includes the fact that he was shopping him to the highest bidder, despite not one report, allegation, or shred of evidence that it occurred at any other school.  And leads to the further assumption that Auburn had to be the high bidder in a bidding war started by Cecil.  All that is assumed despite the fact that Kenny Rogers is a well known slime ball being investigated by the NFLPA for falsely representing himself as a agent or runner for an agent that isn't a registered NFL agent.  All the claims out of Starkville regarding "tapes" all had Rogers' voice, not Cecil's.   IMHO, Rogers is the root of it all, and Cecil went along in some fashion, maybe passively, maybe actively, but Rogers was trying to negotiate a payday for himself.  There's no evidence of past shady dealings that's ever been made public about Cecil, but the wide assumption and the continued chirping by bammers is that he's a low life slime ball pimping his own son like a rented mule.

I said it in another thread, bammers substitute the words "I just know" for "I want to believe", and they also like to tell you what you know.  "You know Cam knew" they'll say.  More code for "I want to believe".

But, in today's world the one that shouts their "truth" the loudest and longest wins, and the assumption, becomes a fact.

[The Prowler]

No, it's not a fact, it's an assumption that is out there, and wide spread.  The parties agreed to facts that say he and Kenny Rogers "worked together".  It doesn't say who approached who, or who first floated the idea of getting money for Cam.  The assumption includes the fact that he was shopping him to the highest bidder, despite not one report, allegation, or shred of evidence that it occurred at any other school.  And leads to the further assumption that Auburn had to be the high bidder in a bidding war started by Cecil.  All that is assumed despite the fact that Kenny Rogers is a well known slime ball being investigated by the NFLPA for falsely representing himself as a agent or runner for an agent that isn't a registered NFL agent.  All the claims out of Starkville regarding "tapes" all had Rogers' voice, not Cecil's.   IMHO, Rogers is the root of it all, and Cecil went along in some fashion, maybe passively, maybe actively, but Rogers was trying to negotiate a payday for himself.  There's no evidence of past shady dealings that's ever been made public about Cecil, but the wide assumption and the continued chirping by bammers is that he's a low life slime ball pimping his own son like a rented mule.

I said it in another thread, bammers substitute the words "I just know" for "I want to believe", and they also like to tell you what you know.  "You know Cam knew" they'll say.  More code for "I want to believe".

But, in today's world the one that shouts their "truth" the loudest and longest wins, and the assumption, becomes a fact.

Bingo.  That's a bammer trudishun..."Got 13?"

[JR4AU]

I don't hear this story getting any legs, but at this point it's highly similar to the Cam deal.  Guess because Peterson is gone, and didn't leave with anything other than some good personal hardware, it will just blow over.

[AUChizad]

I don't hear this story getting any legs, but at this point it's highly similar to the Cam deal.  Guess because Peterson is gone, and didn't leave with anything other than some good personal hardware Thayer, Thamel, Shad, & Brooks aren't fixated on seeing LSU burnt to the ground, it will just blow over.

Fixt.

[JR4AU]

Fixt.

True, but more importantly I feel is that their local media isn't driven by an incredibly jealous, self righteous, rival fan base with an extreme sense of entitlement. 

[djsimp]

True, but more importantly I feel is that their local media isn't driven by an incredibly jealous, self righteous, rival fan base with an extreme sense of entitlement.

^THIS! x10

Thayer, Thamel, Schad, etc. are fed info by said rival fan base.

[AUChizad]

^THIS! x10

Thayer, Thamel, Schad, etc. are fed info by said rival fan base.

Nailed it.

Also, don't forget our own fucking beat writer feeds the negativity up the media stream.

[JR4AU]

Where 3/4 of the media in this state would be typing out all the rumor, and innuendo they could fit in their blog space, or paper's allotted space if this were Auburn,  the Baton Rouge/LA media will galvanize to protect LSU.   They'll kill the story if they can.