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The State of College Football and Where It's Headed

The State of College Football and Where It's Headed
« on: March 11, 2011, 03:43:42 PM »
This is not an article.

However, this is a list of incidences that have tainted college football. Honestly, at this point, there is no reason to think that any school, any coach, and any player is decent.  Everyone is cheating.  Everyone is immoral.  Everyone is breaking the laws of society and only stays out of the spotlight due to luck. 

Feel free to add to this list as I will by no means catch them all.

Since the year 2000...

Alabama*
- Hit with major infractions.
- Described as one of the most egregious cheaters in sports.
- Cleaned up by hiring Nick Saban.
- Textbook gate leads some to wonder.

Auburn*
- Robbed of a national title in 2004.  While many can claim the BCS "got it right," the fact remains that the SEC did not get a fair shot at the trophy.  This flawed system has yet to be fixed or amended.
- "Camgate" has led many to believe Auburn is buynig football players.
- Four players arrested for robbery charges

Georgia
- Numerous arrests and an embarrassing response from their head coach with each.
- Star player selling his jersey for money.  This may be a stupid rule, but it was a rule nonetheless.
- Georgia commits five NCAA violations with Ray Drew's commitment.  Minor but still breaking the rules.
- The Georgia AD caught driving drunk with a young girl (not his wife) in the car with him. 

Florida*
- A large number of arrests (20+) under the leadership of Urban Meyer.
- Cam Newton and "laptopgate"

Ohio State*
- Maurice Clarett claims he was paid by a car dealership
- Terrell Pryor and other star Ohio State players are caught in a scheme to gain extra benefits
- Jim Tressell, a man of "integrity," discovered to be covering up the Pryor issue 

USC*
- Hit with major infractions for cheating and lying about knowledge of the cheating and still denying the cheating ever went on.
- Before the infractions hit, the coaching staff responsible for the program left town.

Oklahoma
- Star quarterback dismissed from team for engaging in "pay-without-work-because-you're-a-football-player" scheme with a car dealership

LSU*
- Self-imposes scholarship reductions after an obscene amount of illegal text messages are reported.  Plus, the school was providing a condo to a player for no cost

Tennessee (Lane Kiffin)
- Lane Kiffin bolts after one year leaving an entire program in shambles
- Numerous allegations have surfaced about his tenure
- He left, even under scrutiny, to USC who was already hit with major sanctions

Texas*
- A scandal arises between AD employees (just one?) and hostesses. 

Florida St
- Caught allowing players to cheat for grades

Miss St
- Rogue boosters and alumni engaging in pay-for-play scheme with Cecil Newton

South Carolina
- Steve Spurrier's wife giving freshly baked cookies to new recruits.  The bastard...

*Won a national championship

So where is college football headed?  Because right now, it's a horrible embarrassment.

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Re: The State of College Football and Where It's Headed
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2011, 03:48:54 PM »
It's heading where we, as fans, are driving it.
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Re: The State of College Football and Where It's Headed
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2011, 03:50:35 PM »
It's heading in the direction that we, as fans, are driving it.

I wholeheartedly agree.

But I'm not sure how to combat what's going on.  If I decide to get pissed at Auburn, Alabama may use that to their advantage to win football games.  Then where do you find yourself?  Vanderbilt?  Then football is no longer entertainment, which is all it should be.
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Re: The State of College Football and Where It's Headed
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2011, 03:51:19 PM »
It's heading where we, as fans, are driving it.


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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2011, 04:00:30 PM »
Your entertainment take is spot on.  That's what it should be and this incident today is just another extension of my "It ain't fun anymore" thread. No, that wasn't so much about players as it was fans; however, when you add to that, the actions of so many of these players, coaches, admins...you have to ask what has this become?
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2011, 04:10:01 PM »
Your entertainment take is spot on.  That's what it should be and this incident today is just another extension of my "It ain't fun anymore" thread. No, that wasn't so much about players as it was fans; however, when you add to that, the actions of so many of these players, coaches, admins...you have to ask what has this become?

A multi million dollar business that you do anything to keep the money rolling in?
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2011, 04:10:49 PM »
Y'all are reading too much in to shit. This shit has been the same for 50 years. The only difference now is that there is immediate 24-7 access to anything and everything. Nothing has changed and it damn sure isn't the fans fault. Blaming the fans for wanting a winning program is like blaming America when the Taliban wants to bomb us...
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2011, 04:12:19 PM »
Y'all are reading too much in to shit. This shit has been the same for 50 years. The only difference now is that there is immediate 24-7 access to anything and everything. Nothing has changed and it damn sure isn't the fans fault. Blaming the fans for wanting a winning program is like blaming America when the Taliban wants to bomb us...

It's not our fault?
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Re: The State of College Football and Where It's Headed
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2011, 04:15:19 PM »
Andy Staples was on some radio show the other day and was being asked about fans email him "tips" about cheating going on at schools (basketball and football).  The host asked what schools does he get tips for.  His reply, "Well, I have never gotten a complaint about Vanderbilt."  I think then went on to say that the more a team is on TV (which is a direct correlation with money pulled in for the school and how much they win) the more "tips" he gets about how they are cheating.
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Re: The State of College Football and Where It's Headed
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2011, 11:28:01 AM »
Oklahoma doesnt get a *?
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Re: The State of College Football and Where It's Headed
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2011, 06:10:14 PM »
Y'all are reading too much in to shit. This shit has been the same for 50 years. The only difference now is that there is immediate 24-7 access to anything and everything. Nothing has changed and it damn sure isn't the fans fault. Blaming the fans for wanting a winning program is like blaming America when the Taliban wants to bomb us...

Yep.  I know a couple of of the coaches and a few players from back in Dye's days.  Nothing new here except for 2 things, and it's really driven by one.  The information age.  Back in the day some, a lot, of this got missed, and some got covered up.  Back then, the police were more willing to help the team and coaches out (not on something like a fucking robbery), but today they know they may be caught on camera, or someone will call a news guy, or post it on the net, then they are in a pickle for showing special treatment.  So, more of the bad gets handled the way it would if it was just Joe student, and it all makes the news. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 09:31:39 AM »
Yep.  I know a couple of of the coaches and a few players from back in Dye's days.  Nothing new here except for 2 things, and it's really driven by one.  The information age.  Back in the day some, a lot, of this got missed, and some got covered up.  Back then, the police were more willing to help the team and coaches out (not on something like a fucking robbery), but today they know they may be caught on camera, or someone will call a news guy, or post it on the net, then they are in a pickle for showing special treatment.  So, more of the bad gets handled the way it would if it was just Joe student, and it all makes the news.

My father played under Shug and he said one night there was a huge fight involving 20 or so football players. The police were called and several football players were handcuffed. After the cops had been there about 20 minutes, Shug walked up right in the middle of everyone and just said, "You guys get your ass back to the dorm and I will deal with you tomorrow morning." Every one of the football players left. They were uncuffed and went back to the dorm. That shit couldn't happen today.

That is just one of MANY stories like that...
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2011, 09:33:10 AM »
My father played under Shug and he said one night there was a huge fight involving 20 or so football players. The police were called and several football players were handcuffed. After the cops had been there about 20 minutes, Shug walked up right in the middle of everyone and just said, "You guys get your ass back to the dorm and I will deal with you tomorrow morning." Every one of the football players left. They were uncuffed and went back to the dorm. That shit couldn't happen today.

That is just one of MANY stories like that...

Now, there would be 12 videos on teh U-Tubes before the cuffs were slapped on.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2011, 09:46:56 AM »
My father played under Shug and he said one night there was a huge fight involving 20 or so football players. The police were called and several football players were handcuffed. After the cops had been there about 20 minutes, Shug walked up right in the middle of everyone and just said, "You guys get your ass back to the dorm and I will deal with you tomorrow morning." Every one of the football players left. They were uncuffed and went back to the dorm. That shit couldn't happen today.

That is just one of MANY stories like that...

Yep one of the guys I know was a GA in the mid 80s.  He got the calls in the middle of the night from Dye or other higher ups:  "get your ass over to ______ and get ______ 's ass back to the dorm now."
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