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Homer Samford

This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« on: March 03, 2011, 07:42:05 PM »
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AqQ7lepKxmZT9_ANw1_nI4UcvrYF?slug=cr-oregon030311

"The University of Oregon paid more than $28,000 to two men with ties to multiple recruits who signed letters of intent with the school, Yahoo! Sports has learned.

According to State of Oregon expenditure records, the university paid $25,000 to Will Lyles of Complete Scouting Services in Houston, and $3,745 to Baron Flenory of New Level Athletics. Lyles is a former athletic trainer who recently was serving as a mentor to highly touted Ducks running back recruit Lache Seastrunk. Meanwhile, Flenory runs the Badger Sports Elite 7-on-7 football camps which have featured several celebrated Ducks signees including running back DeAnthony Thomas, defensive back Cliff Harris, defensive back Dior Mathis and wideout Tacoi Sumler. Flenory had a personal training relationship with recent Ducks signee Anthony Wallace."
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 08:37:06 PM »
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AqQ7lepKxmZT9_ANw1_nI4UcvrYF?slug=cr-oregon030311

"The University of Oregon paid more than $28,000 to two men with ties to multiple recruits who signed letters of intent with the school, Yahoo! Sports has learned.

According to State of Oregon expenditure records, the university paid $25,000 to Will Lyles of Complete Scouting Services in Houston, and $3,745 to Baron Flenory of New Level Athletics. Lyles is a former athletic trainer who recently was serving as a mentor to highly touted Ducks running back recruit Lache Seastrunk. Meanwhile, Flenory runs the Badger Sports Elite 7-on-7 football camps which have featured several celebrated Ducks signees including running back DeAnthony Thomas, defensive back Cliff Harris, defensive back Dior Mathis and wideout Tacoi Sumler. Flenory had a personal training relationship with recent Ducks signee Anthony Wallace."

Everybody except for the hopeful bammers will now forget all about Auburn. 

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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 08:49:12 PM »
Everybody except for the hopeful bammers will now forget all about Auburn. 


OR: They will say the title game was played between two ______s.
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 09:40:50 PM »
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2010/12/10/street-agents-in-texas-some-new-competition-for-will-lyles/


Check out his "clients".

Patrick Peterson –LSU
RJ Jackson –LSU
Brandon Lafell –LSU
Ruben Randle – LSU
Terrence Tolliver –LSU (seeing a theme here?)

Lache Seastrunk –Oregon (misdirection! I see what you did there.)

Shaun Lewis – Oklahoma State
Toney Hurd –Oklahoma State

Ahmad Dixon – Baylor (Tennessee/Baylor)

Mike Goodson – Texas A&M
Martellus Bennett – Texas A&M

Trent Richardson – Bama

Reggie Bush – USC
Joe McNight – USC



Skadoosh!!!
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 09:43:42 PM »
ESPN, particularly Schlabach and fucking Schad, try to make this about Auburn again. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6179423
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 10:02:38 PM »
ESPN, particularly Schlabach and fucking Schad, try to make this about Auburn again. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6179423

Yeah well screw them. WCOV leads with a tease on a story about how much Auburn spent in Glendale. Friggin Bammers are running scared with all this hate. HA HA HA! I love it!
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 10:13:01 PM »
Yeah well screw them. WCOV leads with a tease on a story about how much Auburn spent in Glendale. Friggin Bammers are running scared with all this hate. HA HA HA! I love it!

WCOV?
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 10:53:12 PM »
Here's the CBS Sports article:

On Thursday night a pair of reports released details regarding a probe related to Oregon's recruiting.  Charles Ronbinson, of Yahoo! Sports, released a report revealing details from Oregon's expenditure records, which included $25,000 to Will Lyles for recruiting services, and $3,747 to Baron Flenory, a trainer who runs the Badger Sports Elite 7-on-7 camps.  In an ESPN.com report, sources close to the probe said that NCAA officials were looking closely into the relationships between Oregon, highly-touted recruit Lache Seastrunk, and Lyles, his personal trainer and mentor.    

Obviously the most significant figure here is in regards to Lyles, who has considered himself a trainer and mentor to both Seastrunk and current Duck LaMichael James.  Schools often will pay for recruiting services (names, measurements, contact), but the dollar amount paid to Lyles does seem a bit high.

From the ESPN.com report: 
Oregon athletics department spokesman Dave Williford confirmed to ESPN.com on Thursday that Oregon paid Lyles $25,000 for his recruiting services. Oregon's payment to Lyles was made shortly after Seastrunk signed a national letter of intent in February 2010 to play football for the Ducks, choosing them over California, LSU and USC.
Your response, head coach Chip Kelly? 
"Most programs purchase recruiting services," Oregon coach Chip Kelly said Thursday. "Our compliance office is aware of it. Will has a recruiting service that met NCAA rules and we used him in 2010."

The Yahoo! report revealed more about Flenory's tie with Oregon.

Flenory said the payment to him was for a recruiting service that his company set up for Oregon. The package included names, birthdates and other info on potential recruits. Flenory said the package to Oregon was the only one ever sold by his company, because “we stopped doing it because the NCAA said recruiting services could no longer do camps on college campuses. Because we were running camps, we decided that was a better business for us than to sell the recruiting packages”


While the implications of these reports are juicy, it is merely smoke for now. If either man is found to be tied to the recruitment of players to the University of Oregon, the payment to them would be considered an NCAA violation.  If both men can prove they had no part in steering the players towards Eugene, then the Ducks dodged a bullet.  
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 10:57:35 PM »
My point in posting the CBS article is that this really does not seem like a big deal. Oregon paid for the services up front - no slush fund payments. For all the ZOMG!!1!!SOME MAJOR PROGRAM IS FUKED1!!!! stuff that was flying around, this is just a fizzle. I was expecting some hookers and blow jobs for recruits in a head coach's office while Phil Knight made it rain. Payment for legit recruiting services?  Not quite the "Wow" factor that the hype led us to believe.
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 11:00:39 PM »
I was expecting some hookers and blow jobs for recruits in a head coach's office while Phil Knight made it rain.

Or what Charlie Sheen calls a Thursday.
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 11:04:47 PM »
Or what Charlie Sheen calls a Thursday.

Funny.

Side note - I think there is a typo in your signature line. Shouldn't it read "when THEY step to the Homer"?

And while I am asking, WTF does that mean?
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 11:19:41 PM »
When I originally thought that this supposed team that would be hammered would be Oregon, I thought fo sho it would be they had tied Phil Knight to some major shit piled high. If this is all they got on Oregon, the shit on the wall aint gonna stick.

I'm telling ya'll, I think I am really getting sick of this "bomb" dropping NCAA rules violation news shit. I am more anxious for spring training more than eva.
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 11:22:54 PM »
My point in posting the CBS article is that this really does not seem like a big deal. Oregon paid for the services up front - no slush fund payments. For all the ZOMG!!1!!SOME MAJOR PROGRAM IS FUKED1!!!! stuff that was flying around, this is just a fizzle. I was expecting some hookers and blow jobs for recruits in a head coach's office while Phil Knight made it rain. Payment for legit recruiting services? Not quite the "Wow" factor that the hype led us to believe.

Not so fast....

I don't think this is over.  I think it is just beginning. 
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 11:29:16 PM »
Not so fast....

I don't think this is over.  I think it is just beginning.

If I was paying some dude to steer a recruit to my school, WTH would I cut a straight up check from the Athletic Dept?  Even if they DID pay him off, he covered himself very smartly when he also produced legitimate work product. Try and prove the money was not in exchange for goods and services rendered - you can't.

The media is just looking for the next ZOMG!!! story. And it helps that it is a recent BCSNC participant.

Ducks, welcome to our hell of being tarnished for something that is nothing.
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2011, 11:33:49 PM »
If I was paying some dude to steer a recruit to my school, WTH would I cut a straight up check from the Athletic Dept?  Even if they DID pay him off, he covered himself very smartly when he also produced legitimate work product. Try and prove the money was not in exchange for goods and services rendered - you can't.

The media is just looking for the next ZOMG!!! story. And it helps that it is a recent BCSNC participant.

Ducks, welcome to our hell of being tarnished for something that is nothing.

I don't even mean Oregon in particular.  There's something bigger brewing.  I can feel it.   

All the smoke and venom directed at us?  Will fade away as the "new" stuff starts to feed the appetites. 
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2011, 11:38:31 PM »
I don't even mean Oregon in particular.  There's something bigger brewing.  I can feel it.   

All the smoke and venom directed at us?  Will fade away as the "new" stuff starts to feed the appetites.

I'm just tired of hearing of  the next smoking gun. I will say though that this shit has only begun for the Ducks. Like TW saidm welcome to our hell. The real ironic part will be that the real shit hitting the fan is when this officially involves the Updike nation.
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2011, 11:48:04 PM »
I think this may give a clearer picture on why the NCAA was questioning Reed and Robinson and nothing to do with Auburn and Trooper Taylor; more to do with Lyles and Oregon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6179423
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The NCAA, according to sources, is also examining Lyles' relationship with Sean Nelson of Thibodeaux, La., whose own relationship with top football prospects has been scrutinized by the NCAA. Last month, NCAA investigators interviewed former Thibodeaux High School coach Dennis Lorio about Auburn's recruitment of receiver Trovon Reed and offensive lineman Greg Robinson this year. Reed signed with Auburn last year; Robinson signed with the Tigers in February.

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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2011, 12:08:47 AM »
New Level Sports
Is this not who Lyles does work for? I'll answer...yes it is.
Guess who runs bamas summer camps?
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Re: This Could Get Ugly For the Ducks
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2011, 12:14:54 AM »
New Level Sports
Is this not who Lyles does work for? I'll answer...yes it is.
Guess who runs bamas summer camps?

Shhhhh..... that was my secret. 

Don't tell Scott Moore. All he's interested in is the truth!
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