WTF Does This Mean?

[AUChizad]

http://blog.al.com/wire/2011/02/auburn_cartoons_meaning_still.html

Historians trying to decipher meaning of 1907 cartoon poking fun at Auburn University: The cartoon (shown on the right) was among newspapers, letters and other items in a time capsule unearthed at the University of Alabama's Smith Hall, 100 years after the building was dedicated, according to The Tuscaloosa News. Historians are looking into the meaning of the "23" on the signs held by the Auburn players, but many agree it seems to be an insult used often in the early 1900s.

[Kaos]

Maybe they looked at the depth chart and thought Ronnie Brown would be a linebacker and were disappointed when he stayed at RB? 

Maybe they looked at the depth chart and predicted that bad Jim Carrey movie. 

I know.  I'm doing it again....

The bigger question to me is why were the artists so shitty at it?  And was this an early work of Daniel A. Moore? 

[eagleair89]

don't know what it means......find it interesting that the date of the cartoon is at the time of the cancellation of the series.

The cartoon does lead credence to a position that I (and many others) have held for a long time:

That despite whatever the offical name of the institution was at the time, Auburn sports teams have always been known to Auburn people and Auburn's rivals as:

Auburn............................... (not EAMC or API or A&MCA).

WDE
 

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20110208/NEWS/110209651/1007?Title=Meaning-behind-1907-cartoon-remains-a-mystery

[Saniflush]

And why are we not called API?

[Godfather]

Perhaps that people couldn't draw for shit back in 1907?

[Tiger Six]

And why are we not called API?

Historically, we were known as Auburn, which eventually led to the name change. 

[Saniflush]

Historically, we were known as Auburn, which eventually led to the name change.

No fuck you. Shane said it's API.  You're wrong.

[Godfather]

No fuck you. Shane said it's API.  You're wrong.

No Colonel Sanders you're wrong, Mamas right!

[Saniflush]

No Colonel Sanders you're wrong, Mamas right!

Something's wrong with his medulla oblongata.

[eagleair89]

"I'm a helluva guy from API!"

[djsimp]

I didn't know Auburn had a hockey team.

[eagleair89]

the main sport at AU before football in 1892?...................................

Polo.....................team captain was a guy by the name of Marco Ledbetter Degroot.

WDE

[AUChizad]

A dude I work with has a sweet API T-shirt, and I want one.

But yeah, I'm trying to find some historical connection.

As eagleair pointed out, that's the last year of the series before it picked up again in 1948.

That first run, the results went like this:
1   1893 (Feb.)   Alabama   22   Auburn   32   Birmingham   AUB   1–0–0
2   1893 (Nov.)   Alabama   16   Auburn   40   Montgomery   AUB   2–0–0
3   1894   Alabama   0   Auburn   55   Montgomery   AUB   2–1–0
4   1895   Alabama   0   Auburn   48   Tuscaloosa   AUB   3–1–0
5   1900   Alabama   5   Auburn   53   Montgomery   AUB   4–1–0
6   1901   Alabama   0   Auburn   17   Tuscaloosa   AUB   5–1–0
7   1902   Alabama   0   Auburn   23   Birmingham   AUB   6–1–0
8   1903   Alabama   0   Auburn   55   Montgomery   AUB   6–2–0
9   1904   Alabama   5   Auburn   29   Birmingham   AUB   7–2–0
10   1905   Alabama   30   Auburn   0   Birmingham   AUB   7–3–0
11   1906   Alabama   10   Auburn   0   Birmingham   AUB   7–4–0
12   1907   Alabama   6   Auburn   6   Birmingham   AUB   7–4–1

So Auburn won the first 9, bamma got two in in 1905 & 1906, and then we tied the last game.

I'm guessing this was made before the game in 1907 as some sort of smack.

It appears that 1906 is supposed to be correlated to the Auburn fan on the left and 1907 is supposed to be the Auburn fan on the right. Maybe 23 is the number of players on the roster? Like they're the same 23 players as last year, but more bloated?

[JR4AU]

My guess is that the "23" refers to a popular slang term of the day, "23 skidoo" which basically meant "get the fuck out of here" or "get the fuck out". 

[Kaos]

So Auburn won the first 9, bamma got two in in 1905 & 1906, and then we tied the last game.

This doesn't correlate with the running series records you posted. 

[AUChizad]

My guess is that the "23" refers to a popular slang term of the day, "23 skidoo" which basically meant "get the fuck out of here" or "get the fuck out".

Interesting.

From the wikipedia it is more accurately translated as "Get out while the getting's good".

This makes the most sense. Possibly insinuating that we lost the dominance we had the first 9 years of the series. We ended on two losses and a tie, so it implies we "got out while the getting was good" since they got the best of us the last couple meetings at the point the series was discontinued.

I guess this is implying that Auburn is not aging gracefully, while Bama is in the background getting all the ass. We're has-beens.

BUT

Why the 1906 & 1907? Why not throw in 1905 for extra burn? Why throw in 1907 which was a tie, unless it was done before the game.

Either way, I think we solved the mystery.

[AUChizad]

This doesn't correlate with the running series records you posted.

Um. Yes it does.

Year - Team - Score - Other Team - Score - Site - Series winner - Series score.

I think you must have just looked at the series information.

[JR4AU]

Interesting.

From the wikipedia it is more accurately translated as "Get out while the getting's good".

This makes the most sense. Possibly insinuating that we lost the dominance we had the first 9 years of the series. We ended on two losses and a tie, so it implies we "got out while the getting was good" since they got the best of us the last couple meetings at the point the series was discontinued.

I guess this is implying that Auburn is not aging gracefully, while Bama is in the background getting all the ass. We're has-beens.

BUT

Why the 1906 & 1907? Why not throw in 1905 for extra burn? Why throw in 1907 which was a tie, unless it was done before the game.

Either way, I think we solved the mystery.

Just from reading, it was used both as "lets go" or "y'all get the fuck out" 

[Godfather]

It was likely intended as a jibe at the rival school, but the meaning of a cartoon depicting Alabama's win over Auburn in football in 1906 and baseball in 1907, still isn't clear, more than nine months after it was found in a time capsule on the UA campus.

The cartoon shows two Auburn athletes, one in a football uniform and the other in a baseball uniform, looking sad and holding signs that say “23.” In the background of the cartoon are two UA fans holding a pennant who appear to be celebrating.

On the back of the cartoon are the words “Defeat of Auburn by U. of A. Football, 1906 and Baseball, 1907.”

There are some theories about the exact meaning of “23.”

Randy Mecredy, director of the Alabama Museum of Natural History, said the museum researched “23” and found that the number was used as an insult in the early 1900s.

“We found that, at the time the cartoon was drawn, people were using the term ‘23'd' similarly to how we use the word ‘diss' today,” Mecredy said. “Basically, to 23 someone was a way of insulting them. During the two games, Alabama felt that they'd 23'd Auburn. That's about as much as we've been able to find out about the phrase.”

The time capsule had been placed in the cornerstone of Smith Hall when the building was under construction in 1907. The capsule was removed and opened in April as part of a homecoming event celebrating Smith Hall's 100th anniversary — it was dedicated in 1910 — and was found to contain, among other items, newspapers, letters and the cartoon. last April inside the Smith Hall

Josh Rothman, a history professor at UA and director of the Summersell Center, said that when he heard the term “23'd,” he thought of the phrase “23-skidoo,” another popular saying in the early 1900s.

[Snaggletiger]

Dude, you just got 23'd