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Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« on: January 20, 2011, 12:12:29 PM »
The LSU offensive coordinator's position should be one of the most sought-after in college football: a steady supply of premium-grade home-grown talent, a more-or-less permanent place in the race for one of the premier division titles in the sport, a fearsome defense that means your unit could, say, finish no higher than 11th in the conference in total yardage over two seasons and you could still claim a role in 20 wins over that span. Les Miles ought to have his pick of nearly any offensive assistant in the country.

So why on earth would he pick this assistant?

Yes, the Baton Rouge Advocate means that Kragthorpe, Steve Kragthorpe, the coach most notorious for tearing down in the space of one season what had taken Bobby Petrino years to build at Louisville. As assistant coaching hires go, taking a flyer on one of the biggest head coaching failures of the past decade isn't going to be the most inspiring choice.

That's not to say it couldn't work out anyway. Kragthorpe had a highly successful tenure at Tulsa that won him the Cardinal job in the first place, and many of the failed responsibilities that led to his dismal record at Louisville won't be issues as an assistant. He also has productive experience as an OC, calling plays for R.C. Slocum at Texas A&M in the late '90s and even winning a Big 12 title in that role in 1998.

All the same, his Tulsa success was built on a foundation of solid defense rather than offense. And when you have as many options as Miles must have had for filling the vacancy, settling on a name so closely associated with the stench of misery at Louisville seems like, well, settling. Kragthorpe's hardly doomed to failure in Baton Rouge -- in fact, the grade of talent at his disposal suggests he could be a smashing success even without much in the way of innovation or creativity -- but until LSU fans see his offense in action, they should be forgiven for scratching their heads.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 12:34:02 PM »
I would normally note that running a program is far different from running an offense, but it was pretty well agreed upon by coaxhes that I read commenting on it, that his offense that was once  well conceived, morphed in to a grab bag of nonsensical crap at L'ville.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 01:16:30 PM »
In the next couple of seasons, he'll have one team that makes it all the way. No one will be able to explain it and it will never happen for him again. Les Miles just has that type of luck. Nobody can explain why he does what he does, but it seems to just come out of nowhere. I'm not sure I can remember in the recent history of college football where one coach with what seems to be so little knowledge of the game, gets as many wins as he does. I wouldn't bet against Kragthorpe, only because he has Les there with him. Crazy how this guy comes out like a rose from the ugliest of garbage sometimes.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 01:19:32 PM »
I'm sorry but I just can't get over the guys last name. That is all.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 01:20:48 PM »
Personally I don't like it.   I will bet that he will be an improvement over what they had, and with the talent they have........ I just don't think Kragthorpe is the idiot that a lot of people think he is.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 01:44:04 PM »
Personally I don't like it.   I will bet that he will be an improvement over what they had, and with the talent they have........ I just don't think Kragthorpe is the idiot that a lot of people think he is.

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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 01:57:17 PM »
The question, will the hat keep his hands off of the offense?
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 04:17:04 PM »
The question, will the hat keep his hands off of the offense?

We will see this next year.  If he does, I do expect to see improvement from LSU.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 04:34:32 PM »
We will see this next year.  If he does, I do expect to see improvement from LSU.

I can't imagine them having a worse offense than this year.  They could hire Pee wee Herman and be more productive than 2010
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 05:50:08 PM »
I can't imagine them having a worse offense than this year.  They could hire Pee wee Herman and be more productive than 2010
That would be a big adventure.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 10:08:13 PM »
I can't imagine them having a worse offense than this year.  They could hire Pee wee Herman and be more productive than 2010
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2011, 10:14:39 PM »
Sometimes a head coach who has crashed and burned has learned some valuable lessons and will make an excellent coordinator.

A chimpanzee would be better than Crowton.  How is Kraggelport (whatever) at QB development?  The plays he calls will be far less important than his ability to develop a semi-decent QB. 

You put anybody else at LSU this season but Crowton and Jefferson and we might be looking at them holding a third trophy. 

Given the schedule they have next year, if they get solid QB play they'll be hard to keep out.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2011, 01:29:41 AM »
Sometimes a head coach who has crashed and burned has learned some valuable lessons and will make an excellent coordinator.

A chimpanzee would be better than Crowton.  How is Kraggelport (whatever) at QB development?  The plays he calls will be far less important than his ability to develop a semi-decent QB. 

You put anybody else at LSU this season but Crowton and Jefferson and we might be looking at them holding a third trophy. 

Given the schedule they have next year, if they get solid QB play they'll be hard to keep out.
How 'bout Coach Krackashlacken and Zach Mittenburgers?  They'll be much improved this year, offensively.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2011, 01:34:38 AM »
How 'bout Coach Krackashlacken and Zach Mittenburgers?  They'll be much improved this year, offensively.
Unless they won't.
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Re: Steve Kragthorpe new OC at LSWHo
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2011, 02:38:23 AM »
Unless they won't.
Well yeah, that goes without saying.
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