Another good BCS Championship read....

[JR4AU]

But, how do you go out to a JC where the #1 player in the country resides, knowing you have zero experience and a total unknown at the QB position and NOT target this guy?

Shit happens...good shit sometimes, and sometimes you happen upon someone you weren't looking for. 

[AWK]

The team may have been emotionally in a shambles, and not well coached for a couple of years, but clearly it wasn't left nearly as devoid of talent as when Tubs took over.  If you think that, then you're not being intellectually honest.

Um...The cupboard was pretty bare.  This debate has been argued over and over on here.  Due to attrition and transfers, there were some bare classes.   However, I could tend to agree it wasn't lacking as much talent as was the team when Tuberville took over.

[JR4AU]

Um...The cupboard was pretty bare.  This debate has been argued over and over on here.  Due to attrition and transfers, there were some bare classes.   However, I could tend to agree it wasn't lacking as much talent as was the team when Tuberville took over.

It's so far past being worth arguing, that I'll just leave it alone.  I'll say this...despite how he left it, he did some damn good things along the way.  I think we can both agree it was time for a change...and that change has paid off handsomely.

[Snaggletiger]

It was tough for me to understand how they looked so depleted after the 08' season offensively.  Defensively, they actually looked like always, keeping them in most every game they played.  But without a QB or any direction with the coaching shake up....plus a line that was all playing at least 20+ pounds under their real playing weight, where Franklin wanted them to be, I honestly thought it was pretty bleak when The Chin took over. 

Anyone recall how we all said the O-line was going to be one of the big question marks and if we had any injuries....uh oh.  They turned out to be the most solid unit that year and carried it over to this season.   

[The Prowler]

Being the #1 JUCO player is like being the smartest person with down syndrome.

^^What He Said^^

Btw, is Kaos trying to say that Coach Tuberville deserves recognition for Auburn's National Championship with the "Coach Chizik won it with CTT's players"....LMFAO!!!  Whatever, As much as I liked CTT, he would've never won the Crystal Ball at Auburn and he would've sucked Auburn dry of all their money.

The team talent was there, but that was it.  They had no direction, no head leader and less than 70 players on scholarship.  Coach Chizik and staff had to come in and change their mentality, refocus them, bring in some better talent etc.

[JR4AU]

It was tough for me to understand how they looked so depleted after the 08' season offensively.  Defensively, they actually looked like always, keeping them in most every game they played.  But without a QB or any direction with the coaching shake up....plus a line that was all playing at least 20+ pounds under their real playing weight, where Franklin wanted them to be, I honestly thought it was pretty bleak when The Chin took over. 

Anyone recall how we all said the O-line was going to be one of the big question marks and if we had any injuries....uh oh.  They turned out to be the most solid unit that year and carried it over to this season.

2008 was a prime example of a team with enough talent to have won 8 or 9 games, but that lacked any semblance of direction, identity, or coaching.  Cam Newton couldn't have salvaged anything from that mess.  Talent still has to be coached, and coaching only goes so far without talent.

[Saniflush]

Whatever, As much as I liked CTT, he would've never won the Crystal Ball at Auburn and he would've sucked Auburn dry of all their money.

You're right.  2004 never happened.

[Snaggletiger]

History will remember CTT as one of the great ones at AU.  It was just time for a change.  It happens.  But damn, there were far more good times than bad under that guy. 

[AWK]

History will remember CTT as one of the great ones at AU.  It was just time for a change.  It happens.  But damn, there were far more good times than bad under that guy.

Agree 10000000%.  He gave me the best college football years, and my senior season finished in 2004.  I love the man for that alone.

[JR4AU]

You're right.  2004 never happened.

Yep, but you know it was his fault we didn't get to play for it. 

[AUChizad]

History will remember CTT as one of the great ones at AU.  It was just time for a change.  It happens.  But damn, there were far more good times than bad under that guy.

Yeah, but who won't go down as "great" since 1950? I can only think of one...

[Snaggletiger]

That's one thing that I think is a little bit unique at AU.  There simply hasn't been that much turnover at the HC spot in the last 60 years.  Unless I'm missing someone, since that time

Shug Jordan
Doug Barfield
Pat Dye
Terry Bowden
Tommy Tuberville
Gene Chizik

It may just be perception on my part, but it seems most schools have a good bit more turnover at the top.  And that's going from the old school days when X was your coach, win lose or draw...to the current win or you're out mentality we have today.

[AUChizad]

That's one thing that I think is a little bit unique at AU.  There simply hasn't been that much turnover at the HC spot in the last 60 years.  Unless I'm missing someone, since that time

Shug Jordan
Doug Barfield
Pat Dye
Terry Bowden
Tommy Tuberville
Gene Chizik

It may just be perception on my part, but it seems most schools have a good bit more turnover at the top.  And that's going from the old school days when X was your coach, win lose or draw...to the current win or you're out mentality we have today.

Yup.

And I know there will be people shitting on one other coach out of that group besides the obvious Barfield. I have some fond memories of the 93 undefeated season that took place my first year living in Alabama.

[The Prowler]

You're right.  2004 never happened.

Oh it happened.  We also had probably The Most talented team in Auburn History that year.  But, little did we know that the '07 Signing Class would be, basically, our last class to sign at Auburn until the '09 class when Coach Chizik and Co. arrived to save it from hitting a UAB level.

[DnATL]

He did, which was pleasing to read.

But then he kind of flipped flopped with that third paragraph. It's like he wrote that first paragraph, and then could quite follow through. He nibbled on some crow wing, with that first paragraph, and then spit it out with the third.

Just admit that you hate spitters - which is why you're such good friends with AWK