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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #120 on: November 16, 2010, 03:22:32 PM »
If his dad talked to an MSU booster about money, Cam will be ineligible.


Read that rule again.  It says "receives or agrees to receive."

An agreement had to be reached.  A discussion is not an agreement.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #121 on: November 16, 2010, 03:23:20 PM »
Not to beat a dead horse, but since I was asked to provide the statute:

http://sec.xosdigitallabs.com/Portals/3/SEC%20Website/football/Constitution.pdfThis is actually an SEC bylaw, but it basically echoes the NCAA rule. Anyway, it doesn't matter where he attends. It doesn't matter if money changes hands. It doesn't matter if Cam knew or not. If his dad talked to an MSU booster about money, Cam will be ineligible.

And as far as Slive telling MSU that the SEC isn't an investigative body?

You're a dumb ass...
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #122 on: November 16, 2010, 03:28:58 PM »
Read that rule again.  It says "receives or agrees to receive."

An agreement had to be reached.  A discussion is not an agreement.
Supposedly, MSU reported the whole thing as soon as the money discussion came up. Whether there was a "technical" agreement, I don't know. I mean, what are you looking for, a contract on it? I really don't think this whole thing works like a criminal court. We could word play on half of the bylaws on the book probably, but if what is being reported in the media is true, do you still think he will be eligible? I highly doubt it.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #123 on: November 16, 2010, 03:36:33 PM »
You're a dumb ass...
I expected no less from you.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #124 on: November 16, 2010, 03:39:45 PM »
Supposedly, MSU reported the whole thing as soon as the money discussion came up. Whether there was a "technical" agreement, I don't know. I mean, what are you looking for, a contract on it? I really don't think this whole thing works like a criminal court. We could word play on half of the bylaws on the book probably, but if what is being reported in the media is true, do you still think he will be eligible? I highly doubt it.

Disclaimer:  All of this presupposes that Cecil did, in fact, ask for money.  I do not believe he did.

An agreement is an agreement.  Verbal assent of the two parties would be the absolute minimum.  If Cecil asked for money, or if MSU offered money, and the other party withdrew (or the discussion was terminated before mutual assent), then there is no violation under the rule you cited.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #125 on: November 16, 2010, 03:44:18 PM »
Since you seem pretty active on this particular thread today RWS, I was wondering if you could tell me something. Last Friday, the Alabama Athletic Department was on lock down for a little bit while Police were inside the building. Do you have any idea as to why?
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #126 on: November 16, 2010, 04:00:43 PM »
Since you seem pretty active on this particular thread today RWS, I was wondering if you could tell me something. Last Friday, the Alabama Athletic Department was on lock down for a little bit while Police were inside the building. Do you have any idea as to why?
For some reason, Marlon Davis (former player) was there and was freaking the fuck out, being extremely unstable, and they called the cops.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #127 on: November 16, 2010, 04:13:22 PM »
For some reason, Marlon Davis (former player) was there and was freaking the fuck out, being extremely unstable, and they called the cops.

Bad coke in the parking lot?
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #128 on: November 16, 2010, 04:15:18 PM »
For some reason, Marlon Davis (former player) was there and was freaking the fuck out, being extremely unstable, and they called the cops.

Is he ok?
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #129 on: November 16, 2010, 04:15:52 PM »
For some reason, Marlon Davis (former player) was there and was freaking the fuck out, being extremely unstable, and they called the cops.

Musta got a little sumpn' sumpn from Jimmy J that didn't mix too well with Thunderbird and Grapefruit Juice.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #131 on: November 16, 2010, 04:25:24 PM »
Prayers sent

GF, can we get an "ally-oop" smiley?
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #132 on: November 16, 2010, 04:26:34 PM »
Read that rule again.  It says "receives or agrees to receive."

An agreement had to be reached.  A discussion is not an agreement.

Lawyer talk! 
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #133 on: November 16, 2010, 04:29:44 PM »
Lawyer talk!

Excellent lawyer talk, though.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #134 on: November 16, 2010, 04:33:31 PM »
GF, can we get an "ally-oop" smiley?
:aoop:
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #135 on: November 16, 2010, 04:34:37 PM »
:aoop:

I don't give a rat's ass how much Wes talked about you this weekend.  You are the man.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #136 on: November 16, 2010, 04:36:32 PM »
Supposedly, MSU reported the whole thing as soon as the money discussion came up. Whether there was a "technical" agreement, I don't know. I mean, what are you looking for, a contract on it? I really don't think this whole thing works like a criminal court. We could word play on half of the bylaws on the book probably, but if what is being reported in the media is true, do you still think he will be eligible? I highly doubt it.

Well, it may not work like a "criminal court", but then again, only criminal courts do.  That said....the SEC bothered to write the rules, and chose the words.  Just like the NCAA did.  Mike Slive is a lawyer and former judge, and dealt with the NCAA as a lawyer...if you think he's not going to try and determine exactly what the rule says and means, and instead just read it to mean what he thinks would be popular that day...you're fooling yourself.  And Slive's own words on this situation about not rushing to judgment should be taken to mean just that.

Not to mention this...Slive has said he wants no programs on probation...Slive carries and swings a HUGE hammer...if you think he won't take every opportunity to advocate in favor of his conference with the NCAA here you're foolish.  He may not ask them to ignore money changing hands...but if there's an interpretation to be made, you can damn well bet he's going to lobby to have it interpreted in the SEC's favor, and interpret the SEC's rules in the light most favorable to it's own schools, especially where Auburn has clean hands. 
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #138 on: November 16, 2010, 04:40:45 PM »
I don't give a rat's ass how much Wes talked about you this weekend.  You are the man.

If I was talked about, it was done in love, and the only reason it bothers you is out of jealousy. We're tight like that.
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Re: Cecil Admits to Discussing Under the Table Money - Sources Say
« Reply #139 on: November 16, 2010, 04:50:07 PM »
http://twitter.com/finebaum/statuses/4629430064381952#
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Finebaum reports:NCAA interviewed Bama grad ast & former MSU Dir ftbal ops Jody Wright on Monday about Cam Newton.Investigator heading 2 AU
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