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Thoughts - Week 10

Thoughts - Week 10
« on: November 07, 2010, 08:20:22 AM »
Why it really is almost as fun to watch them lose as it is to watch us win:

From Facebook:

"Fire that motherf--ker McElwain.  We won't score a point against Georgia St!"

From the post game radio show:

(Speaking very slowly) - "Now, I ain't drunk or nothing so you better not go hanging up on me.  Don't you hang up on me, ok?  Now, I've been a Bama fan since Joe Nameth was playing.  I've been a Bama fan since the 60s.  And I love Eli Gold.  I do.  I think he's been great.  But today?  He was rooting for the other team.  As the Bama play caller, he should be positive for Bama every game.  Every play.  That's how the Bear would have had him do it.  But today?  He wanted LSU to win.  When #4 had that football in his hands, which he did catch that football, Eli was quick to say he didn't catch it.  Because he wanted LSU to win.  When #22 had the ball in his hands, Eli was quick to say he didn't.  I love Eli, but today, he was helping LSU win that football game."

Overheard at a restaurant last night around 8:30:

"Saban just isn't the Bear.  Never has been and never will be." 

Auburn...

- Yawn. 

- How dare I yawn at Auburn football?  Well, I'm not exactly yawning at Auburn football.  I'm just yawning at the fact that teams can schedule opponents like UT-Chattanooga.  I understand teams need a break - especially college teams where quality players are not as common as the NFL.  However, you might as well have given Auburn a bye week.  It would save UT-C the embarrassment of getting blown out.

- All in all, this was a great experience for Cam to silence any doubters.  No one can say these allegations are bothering Cam.  He had the best 1st half of his career.  It reminded me of Favre after his father passed away.  "How would he play knowing the investigation (Favre's father's death) is ongoing and he might be ruled ineligible?"  Well, how did he play, media?

- Cam Newton is my favorite football player of all time.  Every thing he does impresses me.  He's been a great leader.  A great player.  A great showman.  And now, a great example of how to handle the bullshit that comes with being a superstar.  What better way to say, "Screw you," than to stroll down Tiger Walk with a big grin, fly like an eagle into Jordan Hare stadium, and then put up the best numbers of your career? 

- One more.  No longer does Amen Corner matter concerning the SEC Championship.  Now, BCS?  We better go lights out the rest of the year.  But as for the SEC W?  Just one more game. 

Alabama...

- Nothing to be depressed about, Alabama.  This was a great football game.  This was a great football game between two very good college football teams.

- Now, I understand that Alabama fans have been spoiled from last year.  Last year's defense was head and shoulders better than every offense it played.  It was going to make plays and cause turnovers and shut teams down when it mattered.  It was going to give Ingram and Richardson the chance to break a big run. 

- This year, however, it has typical college football issues.  Great talent.  Great coaching.  Great play calling.  Just a few mistakes that can let big plays get behind you. 

- Dre Kirkpatrick, who talks more smack than anyone I've ever seen without getting a penalty for it, completely botched an assignment.  Rueban Randle, a previous #1 player in the Rivals 100, took it to the house. 

- Jerrell Harris, a previous Rivals 100 member, didn't keep contain on the 4th and 1, and the LSU runner took it around almost to the endzone. 

- If you want to watch guys who don't make mistakes and rarely allow big plays to happen, there's plenty of NFL games to watch today.  However, for college football, that was about the norm when it comes to two big time teams playing in a big time game.

- HOWEVER, the issue here is the fans' response to the loss.  There were more quotes than I mentioned above.  At the restaurant last night, the guy's wife responded, "No shit.  He's too short to be the Bear." 

- Another facebook status said, "This is why we should have hired someone who's from the Alabama family.  Saban doesn't really care about winning every game for the Crimson Tide."

- And another - "Hey Auburn fans!  I hope you enjoy getting another victory over us when we're down.  It's the only way you can beat us!" 

- You have, in my opinion, the best coach in college footbal.  Your fanbase will run him off with these kind of quotes and thoughts. 

LSU...
- A magical ending for the hatter.  Some great play calls to accompany some dumbass clock issues.  About par for the course with Miles.

- Are LSU fans happy or upset that he's winning?  Bittersweet?  I mean, if he finishes 11-1, he won't be able to be fired for another 2-3 years. 

- I'm rooting for you LSU.  We don't have to play you again, so if you can finish 11-1 and ranked in the top 5, you'll be a huge boost to our strength of schedule. 

Having thoughts in week 10...

- It's hard to analyze teams at this point.  We've seen so much football from each squad that we all know how they're going to play and what mistakes they're going to make.  We know pretty much what's going to happen.   

So what is going to happen? 

- LSU will finish 10-2.  After blowing out LA Monroe and Ole Miss, LSU will face a super hot Arkansas team.  LSU's offense will sputter, and Mallett will hit a few deep balls.  Patrick Peterson might get a punt return for a TD to keep it close, but in the end, Arkansas will pull out the victory.

- Auburn will beat Georgia 49-35.  Auburn can't stop the pass.  AJ Green can't be stopped by anybody.  However, Auburn's offense will continue to roll up big numbers and ensure the victory. 

- Alabama will struggle against Miss State.  There's nothing to play for at this point.  Too many outside variables are involved in getting Alabama to the SEC championship.  Will they lose to Miss State?  I don't think so.  Bama's defense will shut down Mullen's offense due to the talent disparity.  However, it's going to take a hefty effort by the Bama offense to overcome a pretty stout Miss State defense.

- Florida will win out and meet Auburn in the SECCG.  They're pretty much already locked into the championship game.  South Carolina is starting to suck again.

- Oregon will win out by bludgering teams by 40 points.  Cal?  Almost lost to the worst BCS school (Wash St).  Arizona?  Blown out by Stanford.  Oregon State?  Lost to UCLA.  Oregon is your lock for one spot in the BCSCG.

- Boise State will pile on points and stats.  And will finish 4th in the BCS. 

- TCU will finish 3rd with weak arguments to play in the BCSCG. 

- The Iron Bowl will still determine a spot in the BCSCG.  It's just that Alabama isn't eligible anymore.

Final Thought...

- This past week has shown how powerful the media is.  To borrow a quote from the first spiderman movie, "With great power comes great responsibility." 

- I understand that in the world of professional sports, anything goes.  Those guys are rich men trying to build an empire for themselves.  If they're going to take advantage of their status by engaging in immoral and illegal activities, then they deserve to be blasted in the media.

- However, when it comes to college sports, these are kids.  I don't care if they're future millionaires.  I don't care if they act like idiots.  They are still college kids.  They haven't stepped out into the real world yet.  They haven't had to pay any bills.  They haven't had to have a full time job.  They are simply kids growing up with a spotlight on their jersey number. 

- That is why the media should make damn sure they have their facts correct before reporting a story that could ruin a player's reputation for the rest of his life.  Cam Newton will always from now on have someone speculating his eligibility and recruitment because ESPN and CBS Sports ran a story that didn't have all of the facts.

- What's worst is that it was obvious they didn't have all of the facts.  They simply had one quote from a guy with a bit...just a bit...of credibility.  It was the responsibility of the sports analysts to step back and say, "This is a college kid that could be ruined if this story doesn't have all of the t's crossed and i's dotted.  Perhaps we should wait until we can get a few more facts about Auburn and Cam actually being involved in this."

- They debate Brett Favre being suspended or banned from football because he sent penis pictures to some girl who's asking for attention by letting her tits hang out.

- They analyze and criticize Tiger Woods for banging porn stars and lying to his wife.

- They argue over Pete Rose being allowed into baseball's hall of fame.

- But when they commit a social crime like this?  Nothing.  It drifts away into the fog and no one goes after the pundits who were responsible for this issue. 

- Pete Fiutak, while not being my favorite sports writer, was the only one I saw defending Cam Newton and seeking the truth of the situation. 

- Everyone else went with the original allegations and continued to remind the reader of those allegations even when new information made it look less likely that Cam was involved in any of the mess that Kenny Rogers or John Bond or whoever started.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 08:21:25 AM by Townhallsavoy »
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 09:06:51 AM »
I thought Julio played great against Peterson. That was about the only bright spot in the game. Don't get me wrong, it was a great game, but I hated the end naturally.

That being said, people wanting to get rid of our OC are fucking dumb. They were probably the same people last year saying he was one of the best in the nation. You can't fix dumb, and there are a lot of dumb people that are Alabama fans.

I hate the idea of being a spoiler to you guys, but that what it's become. Oh well, we'll see what happens. Never thought I'd be disappointed about a possible game in the Cotton Bowl, but right now, the thought is depressing.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 09:09:02 AM »
I thought Julio played great against Peterson. That was about the only bright spot in the game. Don't get me wrong, it was a great game, but I hated the end naturally.

That being said, people wanting to get rid of our OC are fucking dumb. They were probably the same people last year saying he was one of the best in the nation. You can't fix dumb, and there are a lot of dumb people that are Alabama fans.

I hate the idea of being a spoiler to you guys, but that what it's become. Oh well, we'll see what happens. Never thought I'd be disappointed about a possible game in the Cotton Bowl, but right now, the thought is depressing.

If you get to the Cotton Bowl, you might play Texas Tech. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 09:27:10 AM »
I thought Julio played great against Peterson. That was about the only bright spot in the game. Don't get me wrong, it was a great game, but I hated the end naturally.

That being said, people wanting to get rid of our OC are fucking dumb. They were probably the same people last year saying he was one of the best in the nation. You can't fix dumb, and there are a lot of dumb people that are Alabama fans.

I hate the idea of being a spoiler to you guys, but that what it's become. Oh well, we'll see what happens. Never thought I'd be disappointed about a possible game in the Cotton Bowl, but right now, the thought is depressing.

Who Leo, and Maze abused the best CB in the league.  They had a little help from McElroy too.

You can generally count on some segment of fans coming out to fire a coordinator after a loss.  Has to be flawed scheme, or "play calling".  I love that second one really.  Like the majority know anything other than a pass from a run play.  "Did you see how Julio was playing...they shoulda throwed the ball downfield all day long...that thar McElwain has gotten too predictable...they run the same 6 or 6 plays all day long."    Saw a guy on another board swear bammer only runs 6 plays. 

Bammer's problem (if you can really call them problems with an offense that's in the top 1/4 of both the country and the conference in every meaningful catagory) is their offensive line isn't as dominant...they lost 2 starters, AND TE Colin Peek.  Bammer's zone run scheme requires great cooperation and communication ON THE FLY...it takes knowing the guy next to you in game situations.  Pass Pro does too.  Just a little drop off can make the difference in wins and losses.  Bammer got all the breaks last year.   The drop off on either side of the ball isn't huge, but it's enough to cost them games here and there. 

Just curious...why don't you hear anybody screaming to fire bammer's DC...his defense gave what was essentially a coming out party for the worst offense in the conference and the the worst QB/QB tandem in the conference.   Oh that's right, y'all all think Saban runs the defense...and he's a God!  Must be flawed offensive play calling and scheme huh?
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 11:24:25 AM »
I hate losing.  I despise it more (in my opinion) than anyone I know.  It's not the end of the world.  And because of Saban/Smart/McElwain I've only had to deal with it 5 times in the last 3 seasons.  Unfortunately, a percentage of Alabama fans are the dumbest in the world.  As much as I'd like to change it, I can't. 



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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 12:25:23 PM »
I hate losing.  I despise it more (in my opinion) than anyone I know.  It's not the end of the world.  And because of Saban/Smart/McElwain I've only had to deal with it 5 times in the last 3 seasons.  Unfortunately, a percentage of Alabama fans are the dumbest in the world.  As much as I'd like to change it, I can't.
Whether people will admit it or not, they have them in every fan base.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 12:40:31 PM »
Whether people will admit it or not, they have them in every fan base.

True.

But you know Alabama has more platinum card members of the sore losers club than anyone else.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2010, 01:22:21 PM »
True.

But you know Alabama has more platinum card members of the sore losers club than anyone else.
Still, Bama is the team to beat because of the peception of Saban. I hope he stays for many, many years. We simply cannot replace a character of this magnitude right in the middle of the show.
He brings out the best and worst in Bamerland.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 03:25:41 PM »
Still, Bama is the team to beat because of the peception of Saban. I hope he stays for many, many years. We simply cannot replace a character of this magnitude right in the middle of the show.
He brings out the best and worst in Bamerland.
I hope he stays, too. To be the best, you have to beat the best. No one team is gonna dominate the SEC in this day and time. Put out a consistently good product and pick all the four leaf clovers you can find. That's what it has come down to. I like parity.
Omit Ole Miss and every team in the SECwest would stomp mudholes in the top ten rated teams not from this conference.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 03:31:34 PM »
TH, I look forward to this every Sunday you have teh mad skillz.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2010, 03:34:35 PM »
I hate losing.  I despise it more (in my opinion) than anyone I know.  It's not the end of the world.  And because of Saban/Smart/McElwain I've only had to deal with it 5 times in the last 3 seasons.  Unfortunately, a percentage of Alabama fans are the dumbest in the world.  As much as I'd like to change it, I can't.
I hear ya.   Oh yeah, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Y'all LOST, bunch of fuckin losers.  Ahhhahahahah eat shit bammer.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 03:52:51 PM »
I hear ya.   Oh yeah, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Y'all LOST, bunch of fuckin losers.  Ahhhahahahah eat shit bammer.

Are you still drunk? Or are you just stuck on douche?  Of all the bammers to pick on, Token is the last on the list...
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 04:39:05 PM »
I don't have a "list" of bammers to pick on...I treat them equally, regardless.  "I don't give a fuuuck".
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 04:39:48 PM »
Are you still drunk? Or are you just stuck on douche?  Of all the bammers to pick on, Token is the last on the list...
He's just like some of our moron fans on BOL. I really think he needs to start posting there, because he acts just like one of them. Of course, his diagnosis of why we lost is 100% because of coaches. It helps with the hard on he has for Saban I suppose, but doesn't really pan out in the real world.

I think the gameplan on both sides of the ball was pretty solid. On defense, I never really saw us in a bad set. I did see some mental errors that caused busted coverage, and LSU did an excellent job of capitalizing on those mistakes. We pretty much had them in the first half. In the second half, LSU came alive, and it seemed like our defense decided to just kind of be out there and be content with not giving up a big play. Which they did. Our defense just doesn't have that killer instinct last year's defense did. Alot of our fans have been spoiled by last year's D, and just don't realize you cannot maintain that level of play losing 9 guys from that side of the ball.

Offensively, I think JR's comments summed it up perfectly. We tried to do what that offense is built to do. LSU simply played better on defense. It just happens sometimes, and people need to realize that.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 04:50:47 PM »
As I was mowing my yard today (mulching leaves), my neighbor came over to deliver my 8,743rd cease and desist letter from Charter, which had accidentally been delivered to his house instead of mine.

He's a huge bammer. Real thick southern drawl like a white-suspendered lawyer in a movie about Alabama.

He asked if I went to Auburn this weekend, and I told him it was the first weekend I took a break from. Anyway, the small talk led to him saying "Nick Saban is walking on thin ice. We demand excellence at the University. We pay him a pretty penny, and he is not living up to our standard of excellence. One would expect to have improved from September to November, when we have in fact declined. We particularly declined in the secondary. Saban coaches the secondary. He'd better shape up cause it's not looking good for him if he keeps this up."

Swear to God.

I just grinned and said "Well, I would wish you luck, but I'd be lying."
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Re: Thoughts - Week 10
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 05:13:39 PM »
As I was mowing my yard today (mulching leaves), my neighbor came over to deliver my 8,743rd cease and desist letter from Charter, which had accidentally been delivered to his house instead of mine.

He's a huge bammer. Real thick southern drawl like a white-suspendered lawyer in a movie about Alabama.

He asked if I went to Auburn this weekend, and I told him it was the first weekend I took a break from. Anyway, the small talk led to him saying "Nick Saban is walking on thin ice. We demand excellence at the University. We pay him a pretty penny, and he is not living up to our standard of excellence. One would expect to have improved from September to November, when we have in fact declined. We particularly declined in the secondary. Saban coaches the secondary. He'd better shape up cause it's not looking good for him if he keeps this up."

Swear to God.

I just grinned and said "Well, I would wish you luck, but I'd be lying."

Honestly, it's not just bammers that don't get it.  Though they are often the loudest and sound the most idiotic.  How does he know they haven't improved?

And here's the basic problem in today's game...Saban hit the mark last year.  Every year he misses it, it will be deemed "they didn't improve", "they regressed", "the OC/DC has gotten stale".  All the while they have no idea what's going on on the practice field...who is doing what, who can to what, etc.
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