ESPN: Ingram #1, Newton #2 For Heisman Watch

AUChizad · « **on:** October 04, 2010, 08:32:29 PM »

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/14941/ingram-newton-atop-heisman-predictor

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Ingram, Newton atop Heisman Predictor
October, 4, 2010

By Chris Low
Talk about spicing up a rivalry.

In the latest Heisman Predictor standings, Alabama's Mark Ingram is No. 1 and Auburn's Cameron Newton No. 2.

That game on Nov. 26 is already shaping up to be a blockbuster matchup in terms of the Western Division race. But can you imagine if both Ingram and Newton are also going head-to-head in the Heisman race?

Newton has come out of nowhere like Ingram did a year ago. But as long as Newton keeps putting up the kind of numbers he has and Auburn keeps winning, he's going to be a major player in the Heisman race ... and should be.

boartitz · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:53:51 PM »

You realize that changes every week. Mallett went from not listed to #1 in one week. Don't know where he is now.
I think this poll may be fan based. It sure fluctuates a lot. But, the race does also. Cam is a hot ticket right now.

Pell City Tiger · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:56:18 PM »

The fisherman shouldn't even be mentioned as a candidate. His yardage came against Duke and the worst defense in the SEC. When he finally faced a decent defense (UF), he didn't get squat.

djsimp · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2010, 09:04:17 PM »

Quote from: boartitz on October 04, 2010, 08:53:51 PM

You realize that changes every week. Mallett went from not listed to #1 in one week. Don't know where he is now.
I think this poll may be fan based. It sure fluctuates a lot. But, the race does also. Cam is a hot ticket right now.

You are correct, this is a fan based poll but it says alot about what fans of CFB are seeing.

AUChizad · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2010, 09:10:53 PM »

Quote from: Pell City Tiger on October 04, 2010, 08:56:18 PM

The fisherman shouldn't even be mentioned as a candidate. His yardage came against Duke and the worst defense in the SEC. When he finally faced a decent defense (UF), he didn't get squat.

Jesse Palmer didn't have him in his top 5 today. Newton was.

djsimp · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2010, 09:14:44 PM »

Quote from: AUChizad on October 04, 2010, 09:10:53 PM

Jesse Palmer didn't have him in his top 5 today. Newton was.

Jesse Palmer is just pissed cuz bama beat the shit out of Florida.

Token · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2010, 09:29:01 PM »

While I agree that Ingram shouldn't be in the top 5, you can't hold the Florida game as a reason to not put him in it. For fuck's sake, he didn't touch the ball in the 3rd quarter against the #7 team in the nation. Newton was getting intercepted while throwing to the endzone in the 3rd against LAMO.

And it's pointless anyway. The writers are hell bent on giving it to a QB in the Big Ten. Michigan's qb is the next trophy winner. And he'll get it on a 3 loss team, just so they can say the Heisman didn't go to the best player on the best team.

Saniflush · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:43:59 AM »

Quote from: boartitz on October 04, 2010, 08:53:51 PM

You realize that changes every week. Mallett went from not listed to #1 in one week. Don't know where he is now.
I think this poll may be fan based. It sure fluctuates a lot. But, the race does also. Cam is a hot ticket right now.

And then from #1 to not listed in one more.

JR4AU · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2010, 08:09:17 AM »

Quote from: Saniflush on October 05, 2010, 06:43:59 AM

And then from #1 to not listed in one more.

The talking heads are mentioning him too. I'm proud of that, and happy for Cam. The next 4 weeks will go a long way towards getting him in among the real candidates, or not.

RWS · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2010, 08:17:08 AM »

Quote from: Pell City Tiger on October 04, 2010, 08:56:18 PM

The fisherman shouldn't even be mentioned as a candidate. His yardage came against Duke and the worst defense in the SEC. When he finally faced a decent defense (UF), he didn't get squat.

We took 15 offensive snaps in the entire second half.

JR4AU · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2010, 08:29:39 AM »

Quote from: RWS on October 05, 2010, 08:17:08 AM

We took 15 offensive snaps in the entire second half.

12 Rushes/47 Yards/3.9 YPC. SQUAT!

bottomfeeder · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2010, 08:34:56 AM »

I'm just glad Newton isn't letting go to his head. His main concern is winning football games, and it should be. And, the man absolutely loves Auburn Fans.

No Huddle · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:23:09 AM »

He getting paid well enough so he..... wait I mean he likes all the women.

RWS · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:27:55 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on October 05, 2010, 08:29:39 AM

12 Rushes/47 Yards/3.9 YPC. SQUAT!

You forgot 2 TD and 3 receptions for 19 yards. I agree with Token that the guy shouldn't be in the top 5 at this point, but to point out the Florida game as the reason why? Not the greatest example. No running back even touched the ball in the 3rd quarter until Richardson got a carry to run out the quarter. Aside from the final few minutes in the game (when we had 2nd teamers in), we ran it 3 times in the 4th quarter.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:34:58 AM »

Quote from: No Huddle on October 05, 2010, 09:23:09 AM

He getting paid well enough so he..... wait I mean he likes all the women.

I chortled.

Don't know if anyone caught it Saturday but after one series where AU settled for a field goal, the first thing Cam did when he hit the sidelines was grabbed a ball and told the coaches he wasn't happy with his footwork and delivery. No telling how successful or otherwise he'll be the rest of the year but whatever happens, you can never say he doesn't put in the work.

No Huddle · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:43:28 AM »

He got a second chance and he is not going to waste it. I hope he continues what he is doing. How can you not like him? He is saying the right things and he is playing like a first rounder.

djsimp · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:49:12 AM »

Quote from: No Huddle on October 05, 2010, 09:43:28 AM

He got a second chance and he is not going to waste it. I hope he continues what he is doing. How can you not like him? He is saying the right things and he is playing like a first rounder.

Yeah, he def has his head screwed on straight. I'm just glad we have a good QB at last.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:01:58 AM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on October 05, 2010, 09:49:12 AM

Yeah, he def has his head screwed on straight. I'm just glad we have a good QB at last.

This. In 04', I finally had complete confidence in Jason Campbell and went into every single game knowing he had the game to beat anyone. He was accurate, composed and seemed to take off and run at exactly the right spot every time. Regardless of having Caddy and Ronnie, he was the guy that made it all go to me. That one year has literally been the last time in fo-evah that I felt real good about our QB situation. Cam is definitely still a work in progress and his passing will still bring on some face-palm moments, but he's only going to get better.

djsimp · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:08:23 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on October 05, 2010, 10:01:58 AM

This. In 04', I finally had complete confidence in Jason Campbell and went into every single game knowing he had the game to beat anyone. He was accurate, composed and seemed to take off and run at exactly the right spot every time. Regardless of having Caddy and Ronnie, he was the guy that made it all go to me. That one year has literally been the last time in fo-evah that I felt real good about our QB situation. Cam is definitely still a work in progress and his passing will still bring on some face-palm moments, but he's only going to get better.

Campbell was the last QB of this magnitude that I had in mind as well. You know, before him I think I have to go all the way back to Craig. Cam is getting better, we can all see it each and every game. This excites me. Excuse me, I need to go clean up.

AUJarhead · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:13:36 AM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on October 05, 2010, 10:08:23 AM

Campbell was the last QB of this magnitude that I had in mind as well. You know, before him I think I have to go all the way back to Craig. Cam is getting better, we can all see it each and every game. This excites me. Excuse me, I need to go clean up.

I was having this conversation with one of my buddies about Cam and comparing him to Craig. The big difference? I'll take Mike Dyer over The Lizard any day.