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Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?

Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« on: September 06, 2010, 11:24:34 AM »
Dubbed by Erik Kuselias as one of the most important games in college football history, Boise State will travel across the country to take on Virginia Tech at FedEx Field.  For those who don't know, FedEx Field is where the Redskins play their home games.  For those who still haven't figured it out, FedEx Field is a stone's throw away from Virginia Tech's campus.  And compared to Boise State's campus, Virginia Tech might as well have been sleeping on the 50 yard line for the past week. 

But ignoring the obvious home field advantage that the Hokies have, many have pinpointed this game as the next important entry in the long list of college football lore that dates back to pre-WWII before the United States was even considered the world's most formidable super power. 

The reason being Boise State's status as a mid-major, overachieving program desperately trying to make a name for itself on the national scene. 

Did I say desperately?  I meant "aggresively." 

Or did I? 
 
Over the years, Boise State has pounded their conference as if they were an opening day game for a college football super power like Texas or Ohio State.  They've gone on impressive win streaks and often gone unchallenged in their conference play taking home small time trophies and headed into January with a real shot to impress the nation's voters.

They've beaten an Oklahoma team in the Fiesta Bowl.  They've beaten an unbeaten TCU in the same venue, which has led to a momentous 14 game win streak that travels with them to the other side of the Mississippi. 

But who among us truly believes Boise State, this year, is the #3 team in the country? 

From what I've heard and read amongst the official college football gurus, Boise State has finally been given - awarded - presented the opportunity to compete for a national championship.

But why?

For going undefeated last year?  For having an impressive program that dominates a Northwest conference? 

Because we all know it's not due to NFL talent on the roster.  Or impressive wins against BCS opponents in high profile games at an away stadium. 

So what is it?  A political correct reward to the little guy for putting up a good fight over the years? 

That sounds more like it to me. 

If Boise State was playing Alabama in Atlanta; Texas in Dallas; Ohio State in Cleveland; or Florida in Tampa, the odds would be heavily against the Broncos.  The Gameday analysts would pat Boise State on the back and say "no chance" and give the nod to the perennial power house teams to cake walk to victory. 

But a perfect storm has arisen for Boise State.  They open against Virginia Tech - not exactly anyone's traditional power team of old.  Not exactly the team that has black and white footage of Rose Bowl victories or audio clips of coaches with recognizable hats giving legendary speeches to war veterans trying to defeat an arch rival. 

So what we have is the proverbial media overhype.  A college football game on Monday night with an average team travelling to the backyard of a team that's honestly pretty damn good. 

The world will be watching to see if the words of Erik Kuselias prove true - if this truly is the turning point of college football.  If a new Bear Bryant is born in Chris Peterson.  If a new face, mascot, and city is represented in the national championship game.  If somehow, the little guy can overcome the well oiled machine that cranks out typical, traditional victors in the world of college football.

Unfortunately for Boise State (and the media), they're going up against a well coached and highly talented Hokie team that, if you ask me, will win by at least 20 points. 

So much for influencing college football lore.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 11:49:30 AM »
I think they are a very good team with a short tradition as a power, definitely top twenty-five material, capable of embarrasing anyone because it is Boise, previously known for mainly rodeo. They have a veteran-filled team and it might bring us a step closer to a playoff should they be the fly in the ointment for the BCS.

It doesn't do me or anyone else any good to pull against them UNLESS they are in your team's way for title contention. I pulled for Hickory in Hoosiers so I guess that makes me a sentimental sap but I can tell you there is magic in the air when giants fall, and to Boise, everyone is a giant.

I have reason to believe that they are as good as BYU when they turned the college football world on it's ear. They too were outnumbered and smallish but they had all of the intangibles covered plus the breaks which all great teams seem to benefit from so yes I can believe it, but I don't think they are, not really.

Boise State 35 VaTech 31.      It's magic!
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 11:57:36 AM by jmar »
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 12:53:30 PM »
Va Tech.... a team that has had most of its success blocking punts, intercepting passes, fake punts, returning KO's for TD's and drawing other teams offsides to pickup first downs. Its rare to see VT actually line em up and knock another team in the mouth. I don't like how those bastards played dirty against us in the 2005 Sugar Bowl either.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 01:19:29 PM »
Va Tech.... a team that has had most of its success blocking punts, intercepting passes, fake punts, returning KO's for TD's and drawing other teams offsides to pickup first downs. Its rare to see VT actually line em up and knock another team in the mouth. I don't like how those bastards played dirty against us in the 2005 Sugar Bowl either.

Agreed! Their status as a football power is limited to special teams when they are mentioned. This is their best chance in years as it is ours. They were their usual pretty good selves last season but I don't get any more excited about them than Clemson or WVa. Beamer is an excellent coach but so is Petersen so let the chips fall where they may. No dog in the hunt!
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 02:15:56 PM »
I think they are a very good team with a short tradition as a power, definitely top twenty-five material, capable of embarrasing anyone because it is Boise, previously known for mainly rodeo. They have a veteran-filled team and it might bring us a step closer to a playoff should they be the fly in the ointment for the BCS.

It doesn't do me or anyone else any good to pull against them UNLESS they are in your team's way for title contention. I pulled for Hickory in Hoosiers so I guess that makes me a sentimental sap but I can tell you there is magic in the air when giants fall, and to Boise, everyone is a giant.

I have reason to believe that they are as good as BYU when they turned the college football world on it's ear. They too were outnumbered and smallish but they had all of the intangibles covered plus the breaks which all great teams seem to benefit from so yes I can believe it, but I don't think they are, not really.

Boise State 35 VaTech 31.      It's magic!

But they won't be a fly in the ointment of the BCS.  They're ranked #3 in the polls that determine who competes in the BCSCG.  Teams will lose - Boise State, if they win tonight, will not.  If they're really that good that they can compete with a good BCS conference opponent on one night early in the season, they they definitely won't slip up against their patsy conference opponents. 

If anything, Boise State will go on to help the BCS cause.  They'll prove that the BCSCG is open to anyone if they can prove themselves worthy.  The ultimate cash prize is available to all.  Who needs a playoff?  The BCS will pick the right two teams. 

Because I guaran-damn-tee you Boise State will be voted #1 or #2 at the end of the year if they're undefeated.  It's what the media is trying to do.  That's the point of my post.  It's a media driven plan to make Boise State not only an interesting story, but THE interesting story.  It's a different headline than we've seen.   

And honestly, it is interesting and worthy of being followed.  However, they aren't competing at the same conference level as other teams, and they aren't laden with the talent that other teams have.   

So in my opinion, they need to stay out of the NC talks until they go the Notre Dame route of independence or join a real conference.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 02:31:30 PM »
I second the sentiment of Boise not being in a real conference with real competition to be in the same conversations of the NC hunt. Actually, I think they might do ok if they were in the Pac-10 but I strongly believe if they were in the SEC they would be a broken bunch of yankee rednecks. I getting the feeling though that the Broncos will probably win tonight.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2010, 03:37:45 PM »
Dr Lou says Virginia Tech is too powerful for the Broncos in a lispy confident tone. And since most of the talking heads are picking Va Tech no wait, this is media driven isn't it? Poll it!  I'm not into the political aspect as much as the contest. It's just Ole Piss and Jax State to me. Like I said, no dog. Boise is an obstacle. The odus is on Boise to prove to everyone that they belong. They have to exceed all expectations. It must be conclusive. They cannot cruise or trip or back-in, not in my mind.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2010, 03:46:14 PM »
The original question; "Does anyone really beleive Boise St is #3?"

The answer? Yes, Boise State is the #3 team in the Country, the polls should've been your first clue.

If Boise beats VT tonight then Oregon St. later in the season, they'll be Undefeated and will be playing in the BCS Championship Game against Oklahoma, Texas, SPuat, or TCU.

The question then will be should they play in the Big Game, the answer is fuck yeah they should play in it...Hell they've only lost, what, 2-3 games since the '04 season.  Or something crazy like that and that was with a coaching change in the middle of that streak.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2010, 03:51:11 PM »
The original question; "Does anyone really beleive Boise St is #3?"

The answer? Yes, Boise State is the #3 team in the Country, the polls should've been your first clue.

If Boise beats VT tonight then Oregon St. later in the season, they'll be Undefeated and will be playing in the BCS Championship Game against Oklahoma, Texas, SPuat, or TCU.

The question then will be should they play in the Big Game, the answer is phuk yeah they should play in it...Hell they've only lost, what, 2-3 games since the '04 season.  Or something crazy like that and that was with a coaching change in the middle of that streak.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2010, 03:51:50 PM »
The original question; "Does anyone really beleive Boise St is #3?"
The answer? Yes, Boise State is the #3 team in the Country, the polls should've been your first clue.

Really, thanks for the heads up Prowler. Sure they have done pretty well for a while now but can you honestly say that they would have being in a much stronger conference? I don't think so.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2010, 03:58:26 PM »
Bosie returns 20 starters, thats good enough for me.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2010, 04:55:24 PM »
The original question; "Does anyone really beleive Boise St is #3?"

The answer? Yes, Boise State is the #3 team in the Country, the polls should've been your first clue.

If Boise beats VT tonight then Oregon St. later in the season, they'll be Undefeated and will be playing in the BCS Championship Game against Oklahoma, Texas, SPuat, or TCU.

The question then will be should they play in the Big Game, the answer is fuck yeah they should play in it...Hell they've only lost, what, 2-3 games since the '04 season.  Or something crazy like that and that was with a coaching change in the middle of that streak.

Do you consult the polls when choosing your breakfast cereal in the morning? 

The original post went over your head. 

And Appalachian State had a pretty damn good run at it and even upset Michigan in the Big House.  Maybe they should be given the chance to compete for a BCS trophy?  I mean, since that's the criteria. 
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2010, 08:03:11 PM »
Va Tech is 0-11 in season openers against ranked opponents. However, I think Boise State catches a beatdown tonight. Va Tech didn't lose to Alabama last year because they sucked, though. They played a very good game; just got beat straight up. I think VT has all the pieces in place this season on offense, and they always have a good defense.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2010, 08:13:50 PM »
Va Tech is 0-11 in season openers against ranked opponents. However, I think Boise State catches a beatdown tonight. Va Tech didn't lose to Alabama last year because they sucked, though. They played a very good game; just got beat straight up. I think VT has all the pieces in place this season on offense, and they always have a good defense.

Your prediction is about as premature as Townhall's post.   

Everyone has doubted Boise State, and it's taken them YEARS to get to this point and ranking.  The ranking is preseason and maybe more a show of respect for what they've done as a program.   Besides, all they've done is win when they weren't supposed to.

I think they deserve the ranking unless they get beat and shown to not deserve it.

So, I'm RIGHT!....unless I'm wrong.  So there.  Fuckers.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2010, 08:54:02 PM »

This just in...Boise Fuckin' State has a good mutha' fuckin' football team!
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2010, 09:34:02 PM »
I believe.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2010, 09:35:55 PM »
I believe.

I need to know who you believe in.  I'm drawing a fucking line, our friendship depends on your answer.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2010, 09:57:27 PM »
I need to know who you believe in.  I'm drawing a fucking line, our friendship depends on your answer.

I believe in the Church of Baseball. I've tried all the major religions, and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2010, 10:07:03 PM »
I believe in the Church of Baseball. I've tried all the major religions, and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball.

Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. And I believe if Boise State wins this game, I'll end up having to boycott ESPN and every other major news outlet in the United States so I don't have to suck death out the business end of my Glock 22.
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Re: Does anyone really believe Boise State is #3?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2010, 10:33:36 PM »
But obviously you like this score...
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