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Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« on: August 26, 2010, 09:44:17 AM »
Sidenote:  No wonder he's so happy at the games.

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Big Ten conference struggles with impending changes

By Rusty Miller Associated Press

Columbus, Ohio — Since 1943, fans have always known where to find the annual showdown between Michigan and Ohio State: Right at the end of the schedule.

With the Big Ten expanding to 12 teams in 2011 and also going to divisional play and a conference championship game, that sacred spot is no longer a certainty.

“I can’t sit here and say that it’s going to be in place, or it’s not going to be in place,” Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said Tuesday of the traditional season-ending rivalry. “We did have meetings yesterday in Chicago and we’ll have more meetings. We’re still looking at a lot of different scenarios. We’ll just have to wait and see how it plays out.”

Many fans who hold dear the traditions of the rivalry are hoping for the status quo. Most don’t want to let go of the finality of that late-November Saturday. “The Game,” as it’s called in much of the Midwest, was first played in 1897 and it’s been played 106 times since.

Moving it to October could make “The Game” feel like just another game.

“I’ll tell you we’ll go to great lengths to make sure that the tradition and rivalries are respected,” Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said this summer. He then added, “I think the important thing is, that they play.”

And what about the divisions? If Michigan and Ohio State are in the same division, they could never meet again for the conference championship as they have so many times, going back to when Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes prowled the sidelines?

If the Buckeyes and Wolverines are in different divisions, that could set up two meetings in some seasons. Wouldn’t that detract from the win-or-else nature of the rivalry?

Michigan AD Dave Brandon believes that it would be enhanced.

“We’re in a situation where one of the best things that could happen in my opinion in a given season would be the opportunity to play Ohio State twice, once during the regular season and once for the championship of the Big Ten,” he told a Detroit radio audience earlier this month.

Fans are loyal to college football because it is built on its tried and true traditions. From Chief Osceola at Florida State to Southern California’s Traveler, from rubbing Howard’s rock at Auburn to Touchdown Jesus at Notre Dame, the sport is rich ties to the past.

In the Big Ten, Michigan will continue to wear its winged helmets and Ohio State will still sport scarlet and gray. They just might not play each other once a year on the final Saturday of the Big Ten season.

And it’s not just fans of the Wolverines and Buckeyes who might feel as if tradition is being cast aside.

Purdue and Indiana have fought over the Old Oaken Bucket since 1925. Minnesota and Iowa for Floyd of Rosedale — a bronze pig, no less — since 1935, and Michigan State and Indiana over the Old Brass Spittoon since 1950. And what of Illibuck, the Purdue Cannon, Sweet Sioux Tomahawk and Paul Bunyan’s Axe, all prizes of longtime Big Ten trophy games?

So of those games might not be played every season.

“We may have 15 trophy games, rivalry games that are in that same number,” Delany said. “We’ll need to do everything we can to preserve those. Whether or not we’ll be 100 percent able to preserve every trophy game or every rivalry game ...”

In a conference that has held on to its traditions more than any other, this could be jolting.

“Change is tough,” Smith said somberly. “At the end of the day, I don’t know what change we’ll have. Even if we have Michigan at the end of the schedule, there’s still going to be change. I don’t know what it’s going to be. But I’m looking at a number of different scenarios and there’s change in all of them.”
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 10:00:15 AM »
Boy, they sure know a lot about CFB tradition. When do we get to start rubbing Howard's rock? I thought there were laws against that.
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 10:01:30 AM »
To my knowledge I have never had them rub my rock in Auburn. 
Now Opelika is another story.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 10:18:00 AM »
That will be a tradition I never take part in.

Now, teabagging a co-ed.....
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 10:28:29 AM »
To my knowledge I have never had them rub my rock in Auburn. 
Now Opelika is another story.

I agree with Snaggletiger, I am not rubbing your rock.
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 10:45:52 AM »
I agree with Snaggletiger, I am not rubbing your rock.


Your loss.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 10:47:00 AM »
Now he has an idea for the Clempsun tailgate........
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 11:21:45 AM »
uh, who the fuck is Howard?
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 11:29:46 AM »
uh, who the fuck is Howard?

One bad motherfucker.....
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 11:32:13 AM »
One bad motherfucker.....

I aint rubbin' his rock...at least not without a kiss first.
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2010, 11:34:22 AM »
I aint rubbin' his rock...at least not without a kiss first.
Not on the mouth, that will cost you extra.
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2010, 11:36:45 AM »
Not on the mouth, that will cost you extra.

it'll take fi'ty dollah, to make you hollah, I get paid to do the wild thang.
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 11:57:18 AM »
well...instead of rubbing you can always mount. 

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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 01:22:06 PM »
well...instead of rubbing you can always mount.

Howard prefers it thatta way.....
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2010, 01:44:54 PM »
well...instead of rubbing you can always mount.

Smooth.

I'm givin' that a +2
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2010, 02:17:48 PM »
DnATL gets it:

http://collegefootball.about.com/od/traditions/a/Tradition-Clem.htm
What do I get, and it had better not be a rub of the rock?  (Because the invitation to rub Howard's rock is open to everyone - that slut, he really has his own version of "the most exciting 25 seconds")
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2010, 04:11:49 PM »
What do I get, and it had better not be a rub of the rock?  (Because the invitation to rub Howard's rock is open to everyone - that slut, he really has his own version of "the most exciting 25 seconds")

It wasn't until you mentioned the Clemson game did this "tradition" become clear because I had no clue who's tradition included rubbing "Howard". So, since we do play Clemson at home, I think we could actually have an interesting version of this for the day. I propose the idea of someone wearing a costume of a rock with "Howard" painted across the genital area going from tailgate to tailgate as people gave "Howard" a nice little rub.
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2010, 06:18:01 PM »
don't forget the...




but something tells me this makes the check list at every tigersx tailgate.
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Re: Big Twelveleveten struggles with scheduling
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2010, 11:28:15 PM »
That stuff is too sticky. Move into the 2000s with:

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