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No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2010, 02:55:54 PM »


Why do these fucks get special consideration is my gripe?  Let them roll the dice and have to play by the same rules as everyone else. 

Unfortunately we have become more concerned about protecting the minority than making a stand for what is right.

We have done this to ourselves.


THIS...THIS....and THIS.
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2010, 02:59:38 PM »
I am probably going to regret this, but....

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No regrets!  Jump right in!
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2010, 03:01:37 PM »
No regrets!  Jump right in!

Speaking of jumping right in, where the fuck is GarMan?
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2010, 03:03:36 PM »
He has been helping some future Slurpee sellers get English skill set.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2010, 03:08:28 PM »
He has been helping some future Slurpee sellers get English skill set.

These guys love them some GarMan....

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2010, 03:10:33 PM »
Speaking of jumping right in, where the phuk is GarMan?

I'm sure he will appreciate being missed.  His job has kept him busy 22 hours a day for a while dealing with his offshore Indians and dimwits in Detroit and Toronto; he barely has time for a cocktail and cigar on Sunday afternoons.  But, I'm sure he'll be back soon.
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2010, 03:30:27 PM »
A mosque...where this occurred:





Yeah, there's got to be some local zoning ordinance against that, yes?
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2010, 03:33:13 PM »
A mosque...where this occurred:





Yeah, there's got to be some local zoning ordinance against that, yes?


How dare you show those images. 
Besides everybody knows Bush had those buildings blown up.  The religion of peace and harmony would never do such a thing.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2010, 03:41:43 PM »
I log this under the ole "You have a right to say anything, but don't be surprised if it gets your ass whipped" category.

They have a legal right to build it, doesn't mean the people have to accept it, legally or non-legally.
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2010, 03:53:36 PM »
I log this under the ole "You have a right to say anything, but don't be surprised if it gets your ass whipped" category.

They have a legal right to build it, doesn't mean the people have to accept it, legally or non-legally.

I like your sentiment there CCT.  I'd say that they have a right to worship as they see fit but they don't necessarily have a 'right' to build their mosque there:

Here's a link to a legal challenge that has been filed by the ACLJ:

http://www.aclj.org/media/pdf/ACLJ_EXECUTED-PETITION_20100804.pdf

Here's the short story:

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Lawsuit Filed Challenging Ground Zero Mosque

We have filed a lawsuit today against the NYC Landmarks Preservation Commission (LPC) at the Supreme Court of the State of New York urging the court to nullify a decision yesterday by LPC - a decision that denies landmark status to a historic building clearing the way for an Islamic mosque to be built on the site.

We represent Tim Brown, a firefighter and first responder, who survived the 9-11 attacks but lost 100 friends that day.

The lawsuit charges that the city violated its own policies and procedures in rejecting landmark status and exhibited "an arbitrary and capricious abuse of discretion and contrary to decades of administrative precedent."

What's clear is that this legal challenge points out the fact that the city did not follow its own rules and procedures in this case.

The deliberative process was tainted and violated procedural safeguards that have been in place for years.
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Don't know how far that will get but it exposes the dirty politics of the roaches that would approve a new mosque to be built yet find fault with rebuilding a Christian church.

Full story:
http://www.aclj.org/TrialNotebook/Read.aspx?ID=983#
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2010, 04:47:52 PM »
Wow, AWK would be thrilled to see calling of the taint.
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2010, 06:40:01 PM »
this goes right along with AUTiger's post on Harry Reid. It seems there are two issues Reid disagrees with Obama on.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100816/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_ground_zero_mosque_reid
« Last Edit: August 16, 2010, 06:40:34 PM by djsimp41 »
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2010, 10:01:47 PM »
This is my deal.  I see where Sweets is coming from and agree completely that you cannot pick and choose what parts of the constitution you like or when they should be enforced.  However it should be a non-issue.

There is a Greek orthodox church that has been trying to go into the same neighborhood for the last few years and is continually turned down in zoning because their building is too large.  ( I think the code states it cannot be taller than the  twin towers monument)

Why do these phuks get special consideration is my gripe?  Let them roll the dice and have to play by the same rules as everyone else. 

If they are dumb enough to put a mosque there then oh phuking well to what happens to them.  Unfortunately we have become more concerned about protecting the minority than making a stand for what is right.

We have done this to ourselves. 
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2010, 10:04:46 PM »
Speaking of jumping right in, where the phuk is GarMan?

I'm still alive...  Just busy as hell...  I don't have time for much of anything anymore now that I'm a subject in Barry's Amerika... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2010, 10:07:27 PM »
These guys love them some GarMan....

I think I know those guys... 

I must "do the needful" and get back to work now... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2010, 01:52:03 PM »
this goes right along with AUTiger's post on Harry Reid. It seems there are two issues Reid disagrees with Obama on.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100816/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_ground_zero_mosque_reid


Good to hear that he's on the right side of this issue.
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2010, 03:07:03 PM »

Good to hear that he's on the right side of this issue.

Obama's view is widely unpopular regardless of party. And its an election year...so..........

Prince Harry knows how to pander well.
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2010, 04:09:02 PM »
Obama's view is widely unpopular regardless of party. And its an election year...so..........

Prince Harry knows how to pander well.

Thats what I was thinking. Hell, thats probably what alot of people are thinking. He is cutting ties where needed.
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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2010, 01:57:38 PM »
Obama's view is widely unpopular regardless of party. And its an election year...so..........

Prince Harry knows how to pander well.

Probably true.  As much as I despise his politics 99.9% of the time he might well be sincere on this position so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt since he broke ranks with The ONE and Pelosi.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: No Surprise: Obama Backs Mosque at Ground Zero
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2010, 02:21:30 PM »
Probably true.  As much as I despise his politics 99.9% of the time he might well be sincere on this position so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt since he broke ranks with The ONE and Pelosi.

TIFWIW - he's in a dead heat with Angle.  Just saying....
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