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You're dead to me.

Shoot him in the head or he'll come back.
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You're dead to me. 
But, he's right...  The zombie soap opera is getting old.  Right now, it's just a combination of Desperate Housewimenz and Grey's Gynocologomy...  Too much horsesqueeze, make-believe drama...  Too much stupid shoot...  Let's compartmentalize the emotional skat and get back on the road to Fort Benning.  Pick up a couple of tanks, armored personnel carriers, fuel trucks and radio equipment, not to mention grenades, ammo and real weapons.  It's time for a leader, a plan, a strategy, an objective... 
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But, he's right...  The zombie soap opera is getting old.  Right now, it's just a combination of Desperate Housewimenz and Grey's Gynocologomy...  Too much horsesqueeze, make-believe drama...  Too much stupid shootake... Let's compartmentalize the emotional skat and get back on the road to Fort Benning.  Pick up a couple of tanks, armored personnel carriers, fuel trucks and radio equipment, not to mention grenades, ammo and real weapons.  It's time for a leader, a plan, a strategy, an objective...


Yes!  It's time for a Leader!  Not an old man with isolationist tendencies, or a Massachusetts moderate, or a sanctimonious, failed senator, or a delusional, failed Speaker of the House...or a Kenyan for that matter!

Oh!  You were commenting on "The Walking Dead"...I thought that you commenting on the political situation.
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But, he's right...  The zombie soap opera is getting old.  Right now, it's just a combination of Desperate Housewimenz and Grey's Gynocologomy...  Too much horsesqueeze, make-believe drama...  Too much stupid shoot...  Let's compartmentalize the emotional skat and get back on the road to Fort Benning.  Pick up a couple of tanks, armored personnel carriers, fuel trucks and radio equipment, not to mention grenades, ammo and real weapons.  It's time for a leader, a plan, a strategy, an objective...

Exactly. 

Last thing I'm doing in the zombie world is hiding out on a farm pissing and moaning.  I'm electing myself president and going to find Bill Murray's house. 

And why the heck is Dale still driving that ramshackle RV?  There aren't better vehicles along the way?  Get a fuel truck, damn straight.  Get a wrecker.   Hell, load an 18 wheeler down with a dozer.  Convoy. 

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Y'all are treating this like one of your cheezy porn movies - fudge the plot, gimme a money shot/zombie rampage.  That's fine for porn.  But this is not porn - so character development is a good thing.

Y'all are too short sighted.  Not to mention shallow as Terapin Creek.  The writers know where this is going, and if you read the graphic novels on which this is based, you can get a good idea.  And it rocks.

Merle is gonna come back for realz - bank on it.  Daryl is gonna have to choose.  And the farm is gonna be in the distance pretty soon.  The point is to create a false sense of security and "normalness" but Shane blowing up the zombies in the barn is the first step towards shattering that illusion.  The two Philly guys are the next nail in the "so much for normalcy" coffin.  If you saw the preview for next week, those bad guys have friends, and they had to come from somewhere...

And yeah, Shane saves Lori - that was on the website.  That will either create the rift between Lori and Rick that someone said it might, or it will send Shane deeper down the "Lori should be fine, to hell with Rick" thought pattern.  That's what I think will happen, because that is how the original story tracks.  If so, awesome.


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I read some reviews from people who have seen the next 5 episodes and they said they were amazing... and these were internet nerds that hate everything.  Amazing in the way that both Garman, Tarheel, and TW will like.  I can't wait. 


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I was talking with a friend today - the Philly guy had it right when he told Rick that the rules before don't apply anymore - there's a new order, and the rules for society have changed.  I think the plot arc for nearly every character gets much MUCH darker in scary places going forward.   People that can adapt will survive.  Those that can't wind up zombie food, or fodder for guys like the Philly boys.  Hence Rick's ditching the sheriff shirt and hat.  There is no rule of law anymore, and he is adapting - unwillingly, but he is adapting.  The last round between the fat guy's eyes proved that. 


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I was talking with a friend today - the Philly guy had it right when he told Rick that the rules before don't apply anymore - there's a new order, and the rules for society have changed.  I think the plot arc for nearly every character gets much MUCH darker in scary places going forward.   People that can adapt will survive.  Those that can't wind up zombie food, or fodder for guys like the Philly boys.  Hence Rick's ditching the sheriff shirt and hat.  There is no rule of law anymore, and he is adapting - unwillingly, but he is adapting.  The last round between the fat guy's eyes proved that.


That did catch my eye (no pun) which is why I'm giving it just one more chance.  I'm not shallow, TW, just impatient.  I don't watch TV for sleepy, weepy, character development and emotional crises and relationship issues...I watch it to be entertained..."Star-burst for the mind" as I've referred to it before around Sani and GarMan.

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That did catch my eye (no pun) which is why I'm giving it just one more chance.  I'm not shallow, TW, just impatient.  I don't watch TV for sleepy, weepy, character development and emotional crises and relationship issues...I watch it to be entertained..."Star-burst for the mind" as I've referred to it before around Sani and GarMan.

I get my depth from other intellectual exercises.
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Kegels?


Left that barn door open, didn't I?

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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Y'all are treating this like one of your cheezy porn movies - fudge the plot, gimme a money shot/zombie rampage.  That's fine for porn.  But this is not porn - so character development is a good thing. 
Actually, this character development of which you speak is nonsense.  What we have seen has little to do with reality.  Most of the drama queenz of the bunch would have already fed the walkers...

Y'all are too short sighted.  Not to mention shallow as Terapin Creek.  The writers know where this is going, and if you read the graphic novels on which this is based, you can get a good idea.  And it rocks.
It's also extremely unrealistic so far, and I'm not even referencing the zombie apocalypse aspect of this.  Shallow is attempting to build characters when people should be stepping up, not bitching about this one and moaning about that one in between action scenes.  That's what silly-assed soap operas are for...  But at least, they found Sophia.  That one had me to the edge of my seat.  Sheesh... 

If the writers keep this up, they're only going to find a dwindling audience of shallow-assed broads remaining.  Perhaps, they'll be able to move it to daytime TV in between the rest of your stories
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Actually, this character development of which you speak is nonsense.  What we have seen has little to do with reality.  Most of the drama queenz of the bunch would have already fed the walkers...
It's also extremely unrealistic so far, and I'm not even referencing the zombie apocalypse aspect of this.  Shallow is attempting to build characters when people should be stepping up, not bitching about this one and moaning about that one in between action scenes.  That's what silly-assed soap operas are for...  But at least, they found Sophia.  That one had me to the edge of my seat.  Sheesh... 

If the writers keep this up, they're only going to find a dwindling audience of shallow-assed broads remaining.  Perhaps, they'll be able to move it to daytime TV in between the rest of your stories.

You covered misogynistic but forgot the fag joke.  Add in your homophobia, and you would have covered all your usual fallbacks when you can't make a valid argument.  Maybe drop a racial slur in there as well, just to add some variety.


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Did I still miss the ghey joke?
"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shootty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."


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Did I still miss the ghey joke?


I assume teh gheys are still holed-up in their condos in mid-town Atlanta...at least those that have not become walker feed.
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I assume teh gheys are still holed-up in their condos in mid-town Atlanta...at least those that have not become walker feed.

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You covered misogynistic but forgot the fag joke.  Add in your homophobia, and you would have covered all your usual fallbacks when you can't make a valid argument.  Maybe drop a racial slur in there as well, just to add some variety.

He's right about the character evolution of this series...it's as boring as hell and so is the relational "drama" and I'm not going to apologize for that opinion in spite of your misandric view of the same. 

The writers have been on these weepy, emotional tangents since the start of the season.  Good film and tv media writers already have characters developed and plot-lines that are tantalizing without one having to "read" the graphic novellas.

For example, in a favorite zombie-movie of mine, "Shaun of the Dead", the characters were developed from the start and the relational drama (such that it was) was tongue-in-cheek at least and had a sense of ironic humor in spite of the shootakeakety situation...and it didn't take 14 hours of viewing time to get to the denouement which, by the way, does not take a drama major or Rhodes scholar to realize involves rising action at some point.

I've been hearing on teh ebays that same Siren-cry of "just wait...it gets better" from day one...still waiting.  Hope it does...but we'll have to continue to watch Scheherazade's proverbial dance of the walkers to find out won't we?
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
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The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Did I still miss the ghey joke?

I figured the drama queenz and shallow-assed broads references covered them pretty well.  It certainly covers the overly defensive bimbo fan base...

But hey, I can't wait until next week's episode where they take an EXCITING look into the emotional relationships and hard-hitting turmoil between the now-pregnant Lori and her two studs, incapable Rick and unhinged Shane.  I'm moist with anticipation...  Ew...  Actually, I just sharted myself.
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You covered misogynistic but forgot the fag joke.  Add in your homophobia, and you would have covered all your usual fallbacks when you can't make a valid argument.  Maybe drop a racial slur in there as well, just to add some variety.

Tell the truff...  You voted for Obama the first time, and you're gonna vote for him again, aren't you? 
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He's right about the character evolution of this series...it's as boring as hell and so is the relational "drama" and I'm not going to apologize for that opinion in spite of your misandric view of the same. 
Boring as hell may be an understatement.

The writers have been on these weepy, emotional tangents since the start of the season.  Good film and tv media writers already have characters developed and plot-lines that are tantalizing without one having to "read" the graphic novellas.
But, weepy, emotional tangents make good soap operas, and graphic novels are just comic books.  I said it...

For example, in a favorite zombie-movie of mine, "Shaun of the Dead", the characters were developed from the start and the relational drama (such that it was) was tongue-in-cheek at least and had a sense of ironic humor in spite of the shootakeakety situation...and it didn't take 14 hours of viewing time to get to the denouement which, by the way, does not take a drama major or Rhodes scholar to realize involves rising action at some point.
Shaun of the Dead...  Really?  Try virtually any other apocalyptic thriller.  These writers have merely bought into the relationships and emotions trend of lamestream prime time television for the sole reason of appealing to a broader audience.  The fact is, they're losing a lot of us along the way.  Us being those who tend to be more rational, logical and intelligent than the feelings and emotions crowd. 

I've been hearing on teh ebays that same Siren-cry of "just wait...it gets better" from day one...still waiting.  Hope it does...but we'll have to continue to watch Scheherazade's proverbial dance of the walkers to find out won't we? 
Yeah...  But, I'm also hearing a lot of the same complaints that we're echoing in here.  In some ways, I'd say that the show has gotten better, but the writers really need to pick it up.  Most of us are tired of waiting. 
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He's right about the character evolution of this series...it's as boring as hell and so is the relational "drama" and I'm not going to apologize for that opinion in spite of your misandric view of the same. 

The writers have been on these weepy, emotional tangents since the start of the season.  Good film and tv media writers already have characters developed and plot-lines that are tantalizing without one having to "read" the graphic novellas.

For example, in a favorite zombie-movie of mine, "Shaun of the Dead", the characters were developed from the start and the relational drama (such that it was) was tongue-in-cheek at least and had a sense of ironic humor in spite of the shootakeakety situation...and it didn't take 14 hours of viewing time to get to the denouement which, by the way, does not take a drama major or Rhodes scholar to realize involves rising action at some point.

I've been hearing on teh ebays that same Siren-cry of "just wait...it gets better" from day one...still waiting.  Hope it does...but we'll have to continue to watch Scheherazade's proverbial dance of the walkers to find out won't we?


Take car. Go to Mum's. Kill Phil - "Sorry." - grab Liz, go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over. How's that for a slice of fried gold?
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